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The Vicious Circle of Violence

Murad A Baig March 19, 2008

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#75 Posted by guru on March 24, 2008 11:31:44 am
Chohan,

Thakray or Modi are reactions to Muslims. Go to any city and check the police roaster. Muslims are disproportionately represented. We dont know is it because Inida is dar-ul-Hub or some such Arabic term for enemy contry or where Islam is perpetually in danger. Islam is dangerous for world peace.

Did u read those link?
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#74 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 11:16:46 am
Jang, #72 ,
Stop pussyfooting around. Did Thackeray Thok his bahoo or not?
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#73 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 11:15:20 am
#70 arjun {"At the risk of running afoul of godwin's law, I'm sure the fact that some nazi soldiers were killed during ghetto uprisings means that the jews and nazis killed the same number of people or are morally equivalent"}

Arjun,
What's the name of that disease - the one where merely comparing anything to Hitler or Nazis ensures winning an argument? LOL

I am saying that over the 8 or 9 months following the insurrection of Awami League in March, the Mukti Bahini killed a hell of a lot of non-Bengali AND Bengali supporters of Pakistan. So, go ahead an say that the paki army killed 3 million Bengalis and raped and impregnated 2 million bengali women - all this is silly exaggeration on your part. There was a lot of violence and much loss of life on both sides.

If there was such massive killing by the Paki Army, why didn't the Injuns try and convict the 90,000+ POWs that they had? Seems to me, then that either the Injuns were themselves implicated or they themselves didn't believe the exaggerated bullshit that somehow later generations of Injuns have just discovered.
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#72 Posted by jang on March 24, 2008 11:14:37 am
"daughter in law"..

yar salim i am not knowledgable about histoty of the quresh khandan..maybe kaal can help you there :)

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#71 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 11:10:02 am
#66, Pmishra,
shri Mishra Ji,
Of course you forget about the bloodless surrender of Mecca and the completely compassionate treatment of its citizens. You forget about the man who felt the need to ask about a woman's health just because she neglected to dump garbag on his head as she did daily. You have not heard or read about the man's Last Sermon at Arafat. Listen, if you want to make a moster out of him, you have every right. Fortunately, and unfortunately for you, there will be billions of people who will continue to consider him God's Mercy to Mankind (PBUH). Many have preceded you (Dante, Washington Irving, and Salamander Rushdie), so please get in line and wait your turn to hurl your garbage. He may even forgive you too.

Now, as to the number of Sikhs and Hindus in Pakistan, that is a real tragedy. There were mass migrations in both directions and massive killings - even in large urban centers like Lahore, Amritsar, and Patiala. East Punjab was completely wiped clean of Muslims even though the areas adjacent to Delhi constituted some of the oldest Muslim communities in India. Unfortunately, NWFP and West Punjab were made devoid of Sikhs and Hindus. Massive migration of Hindus from Sindh took place too.

Had the numerically-superior Hindus not made threatening taunts and had the influenc of Hindu Mahasabha on Congress Party not been that intimidating, there probably would not have been a partition and we wouldn't be saying "unfortuantely" over and over again.
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#70 Posted by arjun_5 on March 24, 2008 11:04:58 am
#67 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:59:53 am

At the risk of running afoul of godwin's law, I'm sure the fact that some nazi soldiers were killed during ghetto uprisings means that the jews and nazis killed the same number of people or are morally equivalent.
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#69 Posted by ajeya on March 24, 2008 11:04:55 am
#49 Salim_Chauhan

[Does the chopping off of the hands of the poor Bihari victim by Maharashtran goondays of the right-wing religious Hindu groups constitute condolence by Ram or Krishna or even Gandhiji? ]

Ah! That explains it. It happened, but he had no clue.

I get it. You Muslims are amazingly good at creating alternate realities.


Okay. Now how about raping a woman whose husband and father he had murdered the same day? Are you saying that it didn't happen, or that she had the hots for him and so was unaffected by the murders of her father and husband on the same day?

Let's see what the explanation of THIS ONE is in the Muslim alternate reality universe.



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#68 Posted by arjun_5 on March 24, 2008 11:00:45 am
#65 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:58:00 am

so it's your contention that the MB killed as many people as were killed by the paki army?

in the real reality, I mean...not in pakiworld..
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#67 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:59:53 am
arjun,
at least when the injuns bragged about banging monkeys and elephants and shit they drew pictures and put them in stone. Too bad they can't do the same with the fabricated tales of one-sided Pak Army killings with no violence from Mukti Bahini and Injuns.
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#66 Posted by pmishra2 on March 24, 2008 10:59:23 am
#54 salim c.

No question, events in Gujarat and Maharashtra have been tragic and abominable. No one would call Bal Thackeray or Narendra Modi men of peace. Not me or any reasonable person.

But lets also not waste time calling Mohammed a man of peace. His actions and the actions of many of his followers speak clearly. A muscular man of action, yes. A man with some excellent ideas suitable for his time, yes. A man who made sure his enemies were eliminated, yes. But lets cut out this stupid BS about man of peace etc.

And discussing islamic multi-culturalism, without mentioning the fate of the hindus and sikhs of afghanistan and pakistan is really shameful and hypocritical.
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#65 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:58:00 am
arjun #64 {"yes...they killed the same number of people as the paki army..sure..maybe that's how it went down in your alternate reality.."}

Arjun,
...and yeah, you were right there keeping score of the killings - one Bengali, two bengalis, three .. . But only one Bihari, one Punjabi, and one Pathan.

Just because your "Made in Inja" bullshit says so doesn't make it so.
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#64 Posted by arjun_5 on March 24, 2008 10:50:35 am
#58 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:38:40 am


Many Pakistanis, myself included, condemn the stupid, wanton, unnecessary, and cruel loss of life that resulted from the Paki Army's occupation of East Pakistan.


yeah...I've gone deaf from the screams of pakis demanding someone, anyone, from their army be prosecuted..


Mukti Bahini and their Indian supporters across the border.


yes...they killed the same number of people as the paki army..sure..maybe that's how it went down in your alternate reality..
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#63 Posted by guru on March 24, 2008 10:49:57 am
Re: # 57

Did you go to the links. There is lot of as you say defecation on this chowk. Get off and take the highway of those links for fresh air. The article is written by Muslim lady, btw.
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#62 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:46:29 am
AJEYA #34,
Of course, you were there and you witnessed all that happening and the context of the horror was exactly as you described. My friend, you have been swallowing all that BJP/RSS/VHP/BD/JS/SS/SP/MNS bullshit without any filters.
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#61 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:43:38 am
{"one day mr baig will write an article on bal thackreys birthday"}

Jang,
Screw the old man's birthday (he has had one too many). Tell us more about his daughter-in-law.
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#60 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:42:27 am
Ajeya #38 {"jang, ...By the way, are you Muslim, or a "low caste" ex-hindu?"}

Ajeya,
Good observation, yaar. This fine specimen of Ghaati animal husbandry is an ex-high caste ex-Hindu who has now descended into becoming a non-observant lower-caste Sick Man of Chowk. Other than that he is a pretty good guy.
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