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War of Another Kind

Ather Naqvi March 26, 2008

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#142 Posted by akcheema on March 30, 2008 2:48:54 am
Re: # 140; Zeemax

Thank you sir, for now we'll say no more on the subject. (as I said that isn't the only reference)

Now getting back to the Kaneez issue. Here is my "offer" as it originally appears in the interact:

[Re: # 74 Zeemax (..contd..)

P.S.: I noticed the reference to "kaneezes" earlier; if THAT is what you are after, please allow me to invite you to Aussie. It is BIG here!

As it happens, we have no dearth of inadequates of the male species here either!

Khuda Hafiz for now.. ]

Does that mean you are happy to be referred to as "inadequate?".
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#141 Posted by laddu on March 30, 2008 2:39:47 am
The Jazba-e-Jehad of the Paki Islamist mullahs is on rise- Oye Kafir quam be on look out for their terror inspired by their Mafiaso Prophet !!!

NEW DELHI: The presence of terror camps in Pakistan continues to haunt the security establishment in India, which still feels that ISI-sponsored outfits like JeM, LeT and Al-Badr are responsible for carrying out terrorist attacks in different parts of the country.

"Terrorist infrastructure in Pakistan and PoK remains largely intact and continues to be used by Pak-based and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI)-sponsored outfits like Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Toiba and Al-Badr for carrying out acts of terror in different parts of the country," the Union Home Ministry said.

Noting that there was no change in the attitude of the ISI in training terror groups like the LeT and JeM, National Security Advisor M K Narayanan recently said one of the greatest dangers India faced was terror camps being run on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border by the Al-Qaida and the Taliban.

He said Pakistan continued to acquire missiles and other weapons and its military strategy remains India-centric.

According to the latest Status Paper on Internal Security brought out by the MHA, these outfits are "well organised, interlinked, and have the latest hardware and communication equipment".

The "current strategy" of terrorist groups is to recruit and train local modules and activate them when required, maintain flow of finances to sustain terror network and supply hardware through land and sea routes.

Their strategy is also to target vital installations, economic infrastructure, VIPs and political leaders, attack soft targets like market places, mass transit system, places of worship and congregations, and also provoke communal tension to create a wedge between communities.
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#140 Posted by zeemax on March 30, 2008 2:33:13 am
#134 Posted by akcheema,

Hmmm ... so:

["The climate of Medina did not suit some people, (The climate of Medina did not 'suit' whom'? Citizens of Medina or some alien spies?)

... so the Prophet ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). (Or was it really a minor punishment for them to repent?).

So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy.

Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. (Sure ... they did ... they loved camel urine and wanted more of it!)

When the news reached the Prophet he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.(That was the final punishment because the light one didn't suffice)]

Got it now? Or do you still need any Tafseer from me?

Just ask, since I'm honoured you have offered me aussie kaneezes. They're good and obedient as I've heard.
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#139 Posted by arjun_5 on March 30, 2008 2:22:50 am
#90 Posted by ahmedmadani on March 29, 2008 7:37:29 pm


Any comments ? Thanks , no response expected , but mute silence


IF wishes were horses, zeemax would ride...
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#138 Posted by arjun_5 on March 30, 2008 2:18:26 am
#98 Posted by ahmedmadani on March 29, 2008 8:27:30 pm


Inside story is American govt wooed Mr. Aziz ( Expm of P.Stan) to take over bank and help but he was just tired after having experience of ungrateful politicians - they did not offered him election ticket)


inside story? inside your head perhaps?
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#137 Posted by arjun_5 on March 30, 2008 2:08:42 am
peeweemax..a little camel cola?
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#136 Posted by akcheema on March 30, 2008 1:59:57 am
Zeemax;

Here is how I see it;

I present a perfectly legimitate agenda for discussion in the light of the article; you made fun of it

I presented you with something, perhaps too heated? to talk about; you in your NWFP wisdom made fun of it

I replied to your assertions; you made fun of it

I offered truce; you rejected and made fun of it

You tried to have a leg up on the hindoos, I presented you with evidence from a Book I didn't write but an eminent Muslim Scholar did; it is well-respected and a lot of our Jurisprudence comes from it;

"Ai khaak nasheeno uthh baitho wo waqt qareeb aa pohncha hai...Jab takht giraye jaeyn ge aur taaj ucchale jaey ge....."

Isn't that what you and your mate are singing along to on un-plugged? besides the 'otherone'.

Just for the record, the above sheyr is by Faiz Ahmed Faiz who was a communist and an atheist. Don't you feel just a little bit shy of using it for YOUR gruesome purpose?

Perhaps the end justifies the means eh?
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#135 Posted by akcheema on March 30, 2008 1:15:22 am
Re: # 133; Zeemax

I include the link here so I don't have to narrate individual Hadees after Hadees to you. It is a translation of Sahi Bukhari by Muhsin Khan.

Chapter of "Medicine" is most fascinating!

You ARE RIGHT! How could I have been SO ignorant; its most fascinating. I am not sure why we HAVE modern medicine anymore in our part of the world when there are so many cheaper alternatives!

Here is the link:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/071.sbt.h tml
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#134 Posted by akcheema on March 30, 2008 1:05:54 am
Re: # 133 Zeemax

[Volume 7, Book 71, Number 590:
Narrated Anas:

The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.]

It appears perfectly clear to be from the above reference that the punishment was NOT for drinking urine, as that is exactly what the Prophet seems to be suggesting; punishment was for KILLING THE SHEPHERD AND DRIVING AWAY THE CAMELS.

Zeemax, a word of advice. DON'T DISH OUT WHAT YOU CAN'T HANDLE YOURSELF!!!
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#133 Posted by zeemax on March 30, 2008 12:57:26 am
#131 Posted by akcheema,

and Muslims(Camel)!... btw it is from Sahih Bokhari

Haha ... shows your ignorance.

Now listen, and listen carefully. According to the same Hadees, what happened to the 'same' people who were advised to go and drink camel urine as a remedy? And what remedy was finally administered to them?

You're too funny! I thought only hind000s who quote this were dumb enough to know what it actually entails.
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#132 Posted by jayp on March 30, 2008 12:57:12 am
akcheema,

Whether it is jacobs creek, grange hermitage or queen adelaide what difference does it make to a camel urine drinking jihadi in a suit.
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#131 Posted by akcheema on March 30, 2008 12:48:16 am
Re: # 130 Zeemax

Barossa valley is a valley..... Shiraz is Shiraz.....grapes from Persia (Shiraz region); what is so complicated?

As for piss-drinking; there seems to be some fascination with it on this site! Hindoos(Cow) and Muslims(Camel)!

btw it is from Sahih Bokhari; multiple Ahadith not just one. (you'd probably reject it as doesn't suit your current argument!)

If you DO insist on upholding the Sunnah, we DO have a lot of Camels here too; actually you might even bump into some Camel-driver ancestor in the outback (being from NWFP and all!!) Even the train service through Central Australia is called "the Ghan", after the Afghan Camel-drivers!
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#130 Posted by zeemax on March 30, 2008 12:41:22 am
#129 Posted by akcheema,

Truce?

Thanks but no thanks. I can't have a truce with murtids.

how about some Barossa Valley Shiraz?

What's that? Some aussie kangaroo piss? Again thanks but no thanks.
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#129 Posted by akcheema on March 30, 2008 12:36:15 am
Re: # 126 Zeemax

Each their own as they say!
Unfotunately you sound just like my brother!!!!
Truce?

btw; how about some Barossa Valley Shiraz?
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#128 Posted by zeemax on March 30, 2008 12:35:37 am
Haha ... madrassis are clutching at straws.

Hey hind000s ... have a refreshing drink of cow urine. I think it works like glucose for hind000s!
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#127 Posted by jayp on March 30, 2008 12:26:22 am
Wait for Nawaz, he will bring the govt down as soon as mushy goes.

from dawn of today

From Kashmir to Afghanistan to domestic issues central to the life of Pakistanis, we are yet to hear a clear policy statement from Nawaz Sharif, while Asif Zardari has already drawn flak over a Kashmir-related statement and Asfandyar Wali has shown just how partial he is to negotiations and use of a political strategy in the quest for a solution to the so-called problem of terrorism.

Despite these signs of maturity, Nawaz Sharif continues to be fallaciously viewed in circles pretending to be knowledgeable as somewhat of a lesser politician in comparison to some of his counterparts in other par-ties as well as his brother Shahbaz.
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