Feroz Qutabshahi April 3, 2008
#289 Posted by nb on April 6, 2008 12:40:48 pm
Tahmed, it is not a state secret that it is common for women in Pakistan to cover their heads. I am aware that not all do it, but many certainly do. All the pictures I saw of Jemima in Pakistan, even when not campaigning, certainly showed her with her head covered.
There is no need to get all defensive about it.
There is no need to get all defensive about it.
#287 Posted by HP on April 6, 2008 12:29:01 pm
#281 Posted by ana
“And HP there are more than a few Lahoris, myself included,”
Ana, I did not mean to generalize but sometimes you have to live with the tag. There are people who have a better sense and are not what the stereotypes would suggest. Majha-Sajha, Talanga and the special streak of stupidity or just ignorance are all part of Lahore’s culture. Yes, it may appear to you that it is generalization but it is a tag that sometimes gets so badly stuck that it is hard to unglue it. Some people enjoy it, others just ignore, and some others live with that!
I am sure you would just ignore it instead of taking it personally.
Saadya bibi, nothing personal. I was just giving you a picture of what the Color-Blind love actually means. Don't ferret over it.
“And HP there are more than a few Lahoris, myself included,”
Ana, I did not mean to generalize but sometimes you have to live with the tag. There are people who have a better sense and are not what the stereotypes would suggest. Majha-Sajha, Talanga and the special streak of stupidity or just ignorance are all part of Lahore’s culture. Yes, it may appear to you that it is generalization but it is a tag that sometimes gets so badly stuck that it is hard to unglue it. Some people enjoy it, others just ignore, and some others live with that!
I am sure you would just ignore it instead of taking it personally.
Saadya bibi, nothing personal. I was just giving you a picture of what the Color-Blind love actually means. Don't ferret over it.
#286 Posted by saadya on April 6, 2008 11:57:49 am
I just read the article & sent my views on it
i dont pass comments at people
every one has the right to think on his /her own
i dont pass comments at people
every one has the right to think on his /her own
#285 Posted by saadya on April 6, 2008 11:55:36 am
Re: # 284
what are u trying to say mr treetop
its going over my head
what are u trying to say mr treetop
its going over my head
#284 Posted by treetop on April 6, 2008 11:43:30 am
Re: # 283
But seriously Saadiya.....Is it like saying Hi or Hello?
Subconcious is tricky.
But seriously Saadiya.....Is it like saying Hi or Hello?
Subconcious is tricky.
#283 Posted by bjkumar on April 6, 2008 11:35:17 am
Re: # 280
[why u became angry]
Perhaps he became angry because he is unhappy.
Perhaps he is unhappy because he is jealous.
Perhaps he is jealous because...
I better not go THERE! He might feel harrassed.
But seriously Saadiya, HP was merely "using" you to get at somebody, so do not take it too hard.
[why u became angry]
Perhaps he became angry because he is unhappy.
Perhaps he is unhappy because he is jealous.
Perhaps he is jealous because...
I better not go THERE! He might feel harrassed.
But seriously Saadiya, HP was merely "using" you to get at somebody, so do not take it too hard.
#282 Posted by treetop on April 6, 2008 11:32:28 am
If you like a chick....say ...salam then ...BAM...then thank you mam...make your life a little simpler.
#281 Posted by ana on April 6, 2008 11:21:36 am
#273
The title of this article really should not have been color-blind love, because if Kulharee was talking mostly about his own family, it was mostly about an interfaith marriage.
Having said that, I think the writer of this article might have applied the metaphor across the board to race, faith, ethnicity, as you have suggested. So you're not entirely wrong. . .lighter note or not
And HP there are more than a few Lahoris, myself included, who would take exception to your generalizing about "the usual Lahori naiveties." While you're talking about sub-consciously choosing, you might check your own not-so-subconscious choosing to make a statement like that. :)
Peace!
The title of this article really should not have been color-blind love, because if Kulharee was talking mostly about his own family, it was mostly about an interfaith marriage.
Having said that, I think the writer of this article might have applied the metaphor across the board to race, faith, ethnicity, as you have suggested. So you're not entirely wrong. . .lighter note or not
And HP there are more than a few Lahoris, myself included, who would take exception to your generalizing about "the usual Lahori naiveties." While you're talking about sub-consciously choosing, you might check your own not-so-subconscious choosing to make a statement like that. :)
Peace!
#280 Posted by saadya on April 6, 2008 11:20:55 am
Re: # 274
do one thing mr HP write on this topic by urself
it will be pleasure to send comments on it
write a good one
waiting :P
do one thing mr HP write on this topic by urself
it will be pleasure to send comments on it
write a good one
waiting :P
#279 Posted by saadya on April 6, 2008 11:09:49 am
MR HP
I just said it in a lighter note
why u became angry
I just said it in a lighter note
why u became angry
#278 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 6, 2008 11:00:29 am
Re: # 274
HP I very much understand outstanding anger by yourself and second it. It is fact man married white person so he can write or is subject/ topic. Nobody will write for marrying a cousin. Now think generously he has hurdles to pass and continue marriage when in usa 50% are sinking in storm.Even it is interesting story for normal people for going through life.
Even in our dark wheat colored country we differentiate all
,time all life.
I always told my daughters you are equal to males and there is no problem for advancenemt. I also told them if you feel inferior then you are.
So no point in freighting or getting angry. I never feel inferior to whites or dark indians if I feel other way then I am inferior.
Liking white women and men is fine and seeking also is nothing wrong its persuit of happyness or is not indicative of inferiority.
MR.Quatabshahi has not claimed to be superior by his words or response,be fair and let it go.
HP I very much understand outstanding anger by yourself and second it. It is fact man married white person so he can write or is subject/ topic. Nobody will write for marrying a cousin. Now think generously he has hurdles to pass and continue marriage when in usa 50% are sinking in storm.Even it is interesting story for normal people for going through life.
Even in our dark wheat colored country we differentiate all
,time all life.
I always told my daughters you are equal to males and there is no problem for advancenemt. I also told them if you feel inferior then you are.
So no point in freighting or getting angry. I never feel inferior to whites or dark indians if I feel other way then I am inferior.
Liking white women and men is fine and seeking also is nothing wrong its persuit of happyness or is not indicative of inferiority.
MR.Quatabshahi has not claimed to be superior by his words or response,be fair and let it go.
#277 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 6, 2008 11:00:24 am
Re: # 274
HP I very much understand outstanding anger by yourself and second it. It is fact man married white person so he can write or is subject/ topic. Nobody will write for marrying a cousin. Now think generously he has hurdles to pass and continue marriage when in usa 50% are sinking in storm.Even it is interesting story for normal people for going through life.
Even in our dark wheat colored country we differentiate all
,time all life.
I always told my daughters you are equal to males and there is no problem for advancenemt. I also told them if you feel inferior then you are.
So no point in freighting or getting angry. I never feel inferior to whites or dark indians if I feel other way then I am inferior.
Liking white women and men is fine and seeking also is nothing wrong its persuit of happyness or is not indicative of inferiority.
MR.Quatabshahi has not claimed to be superior by his words or response,be fair and let it go.
HP I very much understand outstanding anger by yourself and second it. It is fact man married white person so he can write or is subject/ topic. Nobody will write for marrying a cousin. Now think generously he has hurdles to pass and continue marriage when in usa 50% are sinking in storm.Even it is interesting story for normal people for going through life.
Even in our dark wheat colored country we differentiate all
,time all life.
I always told my daughters you are equal to males and there is no problem for advancenemt. I also told them if you feel inferior then you are.
So no point in freighting or getting angry. I never feel inferior to whites or dark indians if I feel other way then I am inferior.
Liking white women and men is fine and seeking also is nothing wrong its persuit of happyness or is not indicative of inferiority.
MR.Quatabshahi has not claimed to be superior by his words or response,be fair and let it go.
#276 Posted by anil on April 6, 2008 10:38:27 am
Re: # 209
Samina:
"...class based discrimination that is part and parcel of empire building...."
You have finally spelled it for Massaddi Mian.
He is unable to study empire building as extension of basic human nature. He does not even have the courage to study it, else his beliefs in his favorite Islamic Empire would be in serious trouble. I had earlier challenged him on it from integral part of "Elites" in all societies.
Samina:
"...class based discrimination that is part and parcel of empire building...."
You have finally spelled it for Massaddi Mian.
He is unable to study empire building as extension of basic human nature. He does not even have the courage to study it, else his beliefs in his favorite Islamic Empire would be in serious trouble. I had earlier challenged him on it from integral part of "Elites" in all societies.
#275 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 6, 2008 10:28:01 am
Re: # 274 HP sir,you are partially right.
Long time back it was something for people will oppose for whaever reason.
Recently all charm of such outrageous behaviour is lost nobody cares and does not oppose so all heroic of marrying is going to dogs.Allfun is lost it just two individuals.
Old times women filks use to worry if they can makegood money, men were were interested in knowing if they are educated, the family members were curious about family Khandan etc now all only interested in party food and drink . No value to race , religion , welcome tonew world.
good night
Long time back it was something for people will oppose for whaever reason.
Recently all charm of such outrageous behaviour is lost nobody cares and does not oppose so all heroic of marrying is going to dogs.Allfun is lost it just two individuals.
Old times women filks use to worry if they can makegood money, men were were interested in knowing if they are educated, the family members were curious about family Khandan etc now all only interested in party food and drink . No value to race , religion , welcome tonew world.
good night
#274 Posted by HP on April 6, 2008 9:47:25 am
"I heard & now when some body marries some one with different race ,color,religion ...........he will be called color-blind in love."
No Saadya bibi, You got it wrong. This title was subconsciously chosen to show the author's pride in marrying a White. How stupid was that? We can ascribe that to the usual Lahori naiveties. The author thinks there are only two races in the world, White and non white. Whites always right...nonwhite always wrong. Fking Uncle Toms!
No Saadya bibi, You got it wrong. This title was subconsciously chosen to show the author's pride in marrying a White. How stupid was that? We can ascribe that to the usual Lahori naiveties. The author thinks there are only two races in the world, White and non white. Whites always right...nonwhite always wrong. Fking Uncle Toms!
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