Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited

#129 Posted by akcheema,

Atheists are included in apostates, if born Muslim.

Re: # 131 vengat

I know you weren't. I didn't like Ghandhi ji dragged in there either. That is exactly my point; good or bad these guys are dead. It is time to rise above all that now rather than going around in circles.

Cheers...got to go...

Re: # 128

Cheemaji,

I wasn't trying to corollate from your post.

I am trying to get a perspective on the multi-dimensional motives and modus operandi of a man with immoderate ambitions. In a nutshell I am trying to fathom the world around me.

Zeemax,

Tell me the difference between Thackeray and Manto. As far me, both understand the efficay of 'hatred'.

Re: # 128

I do and I appreciate you stance- even if I disagree in part with some of what you say.

Re: # 124; Zeemax

there is distinct misrepresentation (altogether absence actually) of atheists in the group of Paki well-wishers you have put together?!

Khuda Hafiz for now guys

Re: # 126; vengat

I never questioned Manto Sahib's Pakistaniyet; let's get that straight. I think it would be good for Pakistan to have some space to work out its issues and hopefully sort them out in due course.

Manto sahib understands where I was coming from; the outburst was a bit sudden though!!

Cheers

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Zeemax,

Let us not pussy-foot issues. Tell me if Manto would be allowed to have the reproaching authority
over people of Islamic Republic of Pakistan? Does he stand a chance to know the idiosyncrasies of the predominantly Muslim people?

I am just trying to say that slandering Gandhiji would not land him a ministerial job, people are no more carried away, atleast in the circles that matter. How can Manto make a good leader just because he is the best in slandering Gandhiji?

Manto,

Do understand that a leader, who can empathise with masses who even don't know what they need, is the most needed now. People who are ready to play to the gallery for the sake of personal aggrandizement are the least needed. People who can reproduce reams and reams of past from dubious History books, having an agenda of their own, are the least needed. We need leaders who can take cognizant of the present and future.

If you really love Pakistan, detach yourself from your ambitions. You cannot be a leader as you don't belong to the largest constituent, which will automatically strip the essential reproaching authority over people when most needed.

vengatramananm

Lemme tell you something my friend. As you may have seen the past few weeks since the elections, all Pakistanis - whether conservative, liberal, hard-line Muslims, non-Muslims, or even agnostics or outright apostated like hamidm2 - agree on one thing which is ALL are Pakistanis. And manto, is without doubt one of the truest Pakistanis I have come across.

So please stop your nefarious designs :)

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Re: # 119

Go get some counselling from Ahmed Madani Saab. He is a man who will not hesitate to speak what he feels as truth.

Confess to Madani Saab about your immoderate desires and ask him if they have any propriety. Don't worry about my mask coming off, all of my masks will speak something that is not contingent on my survival.

Re: # 120

Yawn. Yet another chutiya claiming that I am attacking Gandhuji for some ministerial ambition. I am merely responding to the hatemongering by your compatriots. I have no other career objectives.

"No one has doubted my Pakistani credentials."

You have not crossed the bridge yet. Remember Muslims are Muslims first and then all the other tags. You have overestimated yourself without taking time to discern what could be the people like, sitting across the table.

Do you believe Gandhiji bashing can ascribe to your eligibility to be a minister. If you still think so, after seeing Muslims' intelligence and convictions on this site, you are the epitome of an imbecile.

Re: # 117

What a fool. I and making a career on Chowk? You imagine chutiyas like you are going to help me in my electoral prospects. You are the real idiot here.

Finally the mask comes off the ugly Gandhuian face.

#116 Posted by akcheema,

Thanks! And why would I want to slate you? You're a god guy but confused ... I have just been clarifying your own position to you :)