Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited

Another challenge:

Name a single Muslim leader who 'has pretended' to be on a hunger strike to save human lives? (glucose and water n'all)

I admit no Muslim leader has indulged in such drama for personal aggrandizement as Mahachutya Gandhu ji.

Re: # 94

According to zeena of Hazara, Benazir (in her 20s sexiness) and ZAB (not her real father) were developing romantic liasons during BB's last visits in Pindi jail. All of this was overheard by the guard who told all this one night to zeena's cow nine months before zeena was born...

BB & ZAB also mocked out aloud how slave-mentality seeps into a colonized people who feel significant only by associating with and fighting over important people..

After that they made out, while zeena's father masturbated...

re #98

Is it difficult to accept that the only person in recent history accreditted by all major historians to having saved millions of Muslim lives happend to be a skinny, dhoti clad Hindu?
I wonder if there are any other such examples in history?

Mantolives,

Haven't you taught this murtid chootya of #100 who instigated the Moplah uprising?

Re: # 100

I am afraid I have no answer for fictitious nonsense in your head about major historians.

All I can say is that this article is not about Mahachutiya ("Mahatma Gandhi" who was a racist casteist Hindu Fascist bigot) but about Quaid-e-Awam Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Shaheed, a great Pakistani leader.

The only reason I brought up the Mahachutya Gandhuji was because of the abuse being heaped on the great Pakistani leader, Quaid-e-Awam Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Shaheed.

Re: # 101

I would ... except I don't want these murdood chutiyas to run amok and hijack this board about the Quaid-e-Awam.

#102

you got it!

Re: # 86 Posted by rf786

[Dear sir, MAJ has been dead for a good sixty years, yet you harbor so much hatred, that is neither healthy nor is it constructive.]

Rf786, yaar I just do not fall for this constant attempt (promoted by this site) to white-wash the individual who – if there were any justice in this world – ought to be yanked out of his grave and hung from the nearest lamppost for being responsible for the killing, the uprooting, and the rapes of hundreds of thousands in the subcontinent.

The analogy between the Jinnah and the ZAB is too stark to miss!

Jinnah was the number one charlatan who broke up the country that gave him birth and sustenance. He overplayed his hand because his religious prejudice made him blind like a bat! Sadly, had he any vision, he was the one in a position to have changed things for the better. The moron missed it big time!

ZAB was a small politician who played the games politicians play everywhere. He executed a mini-Jinnah deed on that land – breaking up HIS country just like the Jinnah did! Like the vamp, he also overplayed his hand because his own sense of “superior race” versus the Bengalis mad him blind like a bat in seeing things the way those were.Like the vamp Jinnah, ZAB was in a position to have brought about reconciliation and prevent the vivisection - yet HE ended up causing it!

Both the vamp and the ZAB are dead! I feel at least a bit bad for ZAB (and ZAB alone) because he was killed by a ruthless dictator – not because I hold any admiration for his politics which was mediocre at best!

No, I do not hate the vamp. Why would I hate a blind megalomaniac? The subsequent events have proved anough of a punishment for those ignorants who followed him.

But it is impossible to feel any sympathy for the vamp – the crook who got away scot-free!

Both were small individuals! Small people in a small country!

Re: # 91

Yasser:

"..Sorry Anil, I think you don't have any locus standi in this discussion untill you prevail upon your compatriots.."

Never mind Yasser, I still support you. You have a future in Pakistani politics.

I prevailing upon compatriots!!!!

Did you read on another board what Guru was trying to do to me?

These young kids have so much energy, to overcome their deficiency in grey matter, experience and logic.

Re: # 105

Beej

I understand your perspective and respect your opinion, but that is 'a' perspective.

From the Pakistani or Muslim League of that era's perspective, Nehru, Patel and to a certain extent Gandhi were responsible for scuttling any chance of dominion status.

These are perceptions that can be debated and negated, but facts are undeniable. Partition did take place and had its repercussions. According to your thesis, MAJ is responsible for the slaughter that took place, I disagree. Why not blame Congress, RSS, Sikhs for the crime perpetuated on their sides? Atrocities were committed on both sides of the borders, but was this truncated Pakistan Jinnah's desire? Anyone who has read histiory will tell you that Jinnah was not in favor of a moth ridden Pakistan.

Another element that we tend to ignore is the role of the ruling British Government or should I say the crown. Was it not their responsibility to administer a clean and lawful separation? Definately, but they were in such a hurry to get out they never bothered. This should be remembered by the current crown in Iraq.

As for your comment regarding MAJ religious prejuidices, for MAJ religion was never an issue. He was a hard core secularists, constitutionalist who married out of his faith and always prefered the company of those from other faiths. Had he been alive today, I am sure he would have either disowned this Pakistan or left the country.

Finally, ZAB role in the breakup of East Pakistan was the same as that of George Soros building short sterling positions back in the early nineties because of convicition that the sterling was over valued and had to be sold. Like Soros, ZAB took advantage of a situation that was presented to him by the deeds of others.

Yaar rf786,

Arguing with third rate crooks like BJkumar is pointless. He will never anything remotely historically accurate. He knows that the only blind megalomaniac in South Asian history was "MAHATMA" GANDHI who was racist casteist exclusivist Hindu fascist bigot.

BJkumar knows it. But his own history is too intertwined with Mahachutya Gandhuji. His mother was in Gandhuji's Ashram as a 12 year old.

Ask him to deny it. And ask him why that is a matter of eternal shame for his family.

Indians have always had an inferiority complex. They know that none of their too bit crook leaders could come close to Jinnah or Bhutto, so they must abuse them.


Also, the responsibility of violence at partition lies with the Congress because it was Congress that selected the megalamomaniac Mountbatten to be the first governor general. It was the Congress that insisted on Partition because all it was gettng- sadna's words not mine- were "foreign affairs and defence"under United India.

It was Hindu fascism from the start to the end. The lipstick of secularism, cannot make India the pig look pretty. BJkumar knows that no matter how many statues Indians will sponsor world wide, gandhi was black hearted and disgusting fellow.


Why else would this great follower of Gandhuji spend so much time on Pakistan. He knows that at the end of the day India is a shithole which will always stink no matter how much they present a different picture to the world.

I saw a prog on Bhutto on Aaj TV last night. His closest friends said that his political Hero was Jinnah. Does that put the debate to an end.
Whatever his foibles, he was the best thing that happened to Pakistan after Jinnah and it is high time he finds a befitting place in our textbooks.

"Butto was the worst thing that happened to Pakistam" says Mush. What an ignorance and shame!

Re: # 109; Ijaz_gul;"Butto was the worst thing that happened to Pakistam" says Mush."

The worse thing ever to happen to Pakistan was Ameer-ul-momineen and self appointed Zill-e-subhani General Mohammed Zia-ul-huq.

Khuda Hafiz

Manto,

Gandhiji would be happy if your slander against him will make you a compatriot to other Pakistanis.
I mean you will have to keep proving more Pakistani than the others.

Zeemax et al will watch this with glee since you becoming a profligate means no ripple in his pond.

Manto Sahib, we 'interacted' briefly before.

Here is the deal. You are from the Ahmadiyya group; try as you may, Jinnah is dead and his legacy (if there ever was such a thing in the first place) is dead with him. We live in times when at least in the medium term there is no hope in hell you would be considered a muslim or a productive part of the country. Ask Zeemax; its all very well to have some nods in agreement when it suits but there is NO WAY he would propose anything like the secularism you are proposing in Pakistan. This is speaking from an artificially generated make-believe world with appropriate annonymity etc of the world wide web.

The reality on the ground is only worse. There is no secularism here; just because some hot-head JI types didn't participate in the elections, you think you have secularism? Only a fool would believe that. Where is the secular democracy WITHIN PPP or PML (any) anywhere; show me! enlighten me! all of us. Who elected Zardari/Sarif etc to be leaders; a democratic process? my foot!

Stop deluding yourselves guys and get some grip on reality here. Jinnah (good or bad) has gone for good. What he wanted in Pakistan? who knows and frankly who cares? Build a country now with what you have and in ten years or so we can talk!

I am an infrequent visitor here; do you know why? Because I have a busy job and family and a hell of a lot of personal interests like sports etc. I wonder how people here have so much time to "interact" day in and out! May be if there was some actual WORK going on in the country, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now!

As far as YOUR religious affiliations are concerned, doesn't bother an atheist like me at all; talk to Zee/Urstruly clan and I am not sure you'd get the same answer (if they are true to their souls that is!)

I hope it wasn't too abrupt. Take care.

Khuda Hafiz

go zee my tiger.......