Ather Naqvi April 9, 2008
#500 Posted by zeemax on April 18, 2008 12:12:50 pm
#499 Posted by HP,
HP. Exactly. These are ISI people. I guess you didn't read through the posts. Do read them.
HP. Exactly. These are ISI people. I guess you didn't read through the posts. Do read them.
#499 Posted by HP on April 18, 2008 11:49:19 am
"Suddenly this Mangal Bagh's Lashkar-e-Islam has popped out of the blue which has a paid army of Rs. 5,000/month (instead of volunteers) and heavy arms."
Zee,
Any reason you are making heroes out of these bandits? They are set up to destroy any chance of reconciliation in the area. More ISI agents. Popped out of the blue...that is a tale tell sign of ISI.
Obviously, set up to get the Pak army or the US army in to the conflict. you really don't have much chance when the the army of your country is ready to make your country the battleground and invite outside forces in to the territory.
Shame on the Pak army for destroying the country that feeds them for monetary benefits.The army is doing this to make it difficult for the civilians but this too will blow up in the army's face.
Zee,
Any reason you are making heroes out of these bandits? They are set up to destroy any chance of reconciliation in the area. More ISI agents. Popped out of the blue...that is a tale tell sign of ISI.
Obviously, set up to get the Pak army or the US army in to the conflict. you really don't have much chance when the the army of your country is ready to make your country the battleground and invite outside forces in to the territory.
Shame on the Pak army for destroying the country that feeds them for monetary benefits.The army is doing this to make it difficult for the civilians but this too will blow up in the army's face.
#498 Posted by zeemax on April 18, 2008 10:53:48 am
... but I need to clarify again. That region is not Lawless. The only Law is an unwritten Pakhtunwali.
#497 Posted by zeemax on April 18, 2008 10:50:49 am
#492 Posted by dost_mittar,
Khasadars are such good soldiers. It's a great pity musharraf pitted them against their own and they got slaughtered as traitors and Kafirs.
Khasadars are such good soldiers. It's a great pity musharraf pitted them against their own and they got slaughtered as traitors and Kafirs.
#496 Posted by dost_mittar on April 18, 2008 10:44:30 am
Thanks for clarification, zee. What you say does make sense.
#495 Posted by zeemax on April 18, 2008 10:42:45 am
#490 Posted by tahmed32,
Let's just say musharraf could do little about Lal-Masjid because of Swat. And when he eventually did, you saw what happened.
Let's just say musharraf could do little about Lal-Masjid because of Swat. And when he eventually did, you saw what happened.
#494 Posted by zeemax on April 18, 2008 10:39:43 am
... "I don't give a damn" was the redneck version ... not what the Southern landed gentry would say. But it was taken in the movie because I suppose rednecks watch movies more than they read books.
Just thought I should clarify a bit more.
Just thought I should clarify a bit more.
#493 Posted by zeemax on April 18, 2008 10:36:02 am
#491 Posted by dost_mittar,
Ok Sir, so do take my word for it. What Margaret Mitchell wrote was "I don't care a damn".
Thank you.
Ok Sir, so do take my word for it. What Margaret Mitchell wrote was "I don't care a damn".
Thank you.
#492 Posted by dost_mittar on April 18, 2008 10:31:47 am
tahmed32:
If you do not know about khasadars, this means that you haven't read even my Pakistan Dairies. I have a fond memory of the khasadar assigned to me for travel in the Khyber Agency who even let me fondle his gun.
BTW, these khasadars are a hangover from the British period; the poor chaps are not even given the status and privilege of state employees while working in a lawless region.
If you do not know about khasadars, this means that you haven't read even my Pakistan Dairies. I have a fond memory of the khasadar assigned to me for travel in the Khyber Agency who even let me fondle his gun.
BTW, these khasadars are a hangover from the British period; the poor chaps are not even given the status and privilege of state employees while working in a lawless region.
#491 Posted by dost_mittar on April 18, 2008 10:28:35 am
zeemax:
No, I have neither read the book nor seen the movie (except for some clippings); I have only heard and read that phrase ad nauseaum, though.
No, I have neither read the book nor seen the movie (except for some clippings); I have only heard and read that phrase ad nauseaum, though.
#490 Posted by tahmed32 on April 18, 2008 10:17:36 am
#489 if the only "explanation" you can provide to explain why musharraf permitted lal masjid to be turned into a mini-government until he was forced to act by the chinese is that "Allah works in mysterious ways", then let us let Allah also decide which one of us is being obstinate. :-)
#489 Posted by zeemax on April 18, 2008 9:43:51 am
#484 Posted by tahmed32,
in other words, you agree that there is no logical explanation for that other than the one I provided.
No. There are many explanations, but you're just too obstinate to use logical arguments with (sorry but true). So I sufficed with this till the next development.
in other words, you agree that there is no logical explanation for that other than the one I provided.
No. There are many explanations, but you're just too obstinate to use logical arguments with (sorry but true). So I sufficed with this till the next development.
#488 Posted by tahmed32 on April 18, 2008 8:58:37 am
and clever words are merely hollow talk if they are not based on any fact. soemthing you and musharraf and mqm have in common.
#487 Posted by tahmed32 on April 18, 2008 8:55:15 am
#486 those are clever words. i dont recall hearing any "logic" and "reason" from you.
if i am wrong, kindly cut and paste the last time you presented some "logic" or "reason" to me, and my reaction to that. or is it that you are mad at me for criticizing your musharraf and mqm scoundrels?
if i am wrong, kindly cut and paste the last time you presented some "logic" or "reason" to me, and my reaction to that. or is it that you are mad at me for criticizing your musharraf and mqm scoundrels?
#486 Posted by CheGuevara on April 18, 2008 8:29:46 am
Tahmed I would consider voting for you in Chowk elections your stubborness in the face of logic and reason is kind of admirable even if it makes me call you mean names :)
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