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Re: # 32

vieweri saab

masadi saab wrote three pages worth some years ago saab and he makes it short or long depending on the occasion saab

it is the same thing all the time saab. unfortunately he keeps forgetting to take his medicine saab

To masadi,
I have now come to gradual but firm belief that the only comment you can make is to start personal attacks on the writer, instead of saying anything related to the point that this courageous writer has tried to make.

It seems to me that your imagination goes no further than this mentioned limit. The point being made by this author courageous, bold, honest, sincere and rational, which needs to be discussed and analysed, while your contribution consists of throwing personal attacks on the writer.

Charlie,

Dr. Hoodbhoy's research belongs to the field of Nuclear Physics whereas the equipment bought was for the use in Pakistan (which of course is supposed to add to the pool of knowledge - within and outside). If the equipement bought is unused then it's a waste of money. Simply put, profligacy!


Ur final comment sounds like the words (sic) of an economist who edited the world famous American Economic Review. He opined after a decade(?) of editing the research papers that none of the papers wud not have been written in the first place coz most of the papers (almost 99% of them are useless in day2day applications - even for theoretical purposes).

I have two questions to ask.

To Pervez Hoodbhoy: I know you are a well reputed researcher in the west. Can you please enlighten me if your reearch work has some application for third world nations like Pakistan? If no, Can you please stop crying as your research is as wasteful to Pakistani resources as this new machine.

And same question goes to HEC and HEJ chief. For last eight years, you have been sitting on top. Show me one technological breakthough that might have affected the life of a common Pakistani with the all money spent on useless research.


Even those auto-mechanics , who find the ways to LPG cylinders in rickshaws, have served the country more than your thousands papers cited several thousand times.

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Re: # 17
Blame those whom you worship (I don't mean the gods and goddesses but the East India Company) for these riots that turned neighbour against neighbour.

If the 20% chose to leave, what do you suggest I do for the remaining 1%? I'm one million miles away from the parliament.

later............

PH if you're reading #23 feel free to quote it in your writings, that is what I believe you deserve and the sooner the government of Pakistan arranges for it, the better it will be for the people, your donkey ride that is....

For the idiot whose redflagging my posts, get a life. In addition to the previous posts, I'd like to add that Pervez Hoodbhoy is a fake and an ignoramus, and in writing this is not concerned with either the country's well being or the state of our education/corruption. He is concerned about his personal axe which he wants to grind and his anti-islam sentiment and his pro-West white worshipping attitude. The fool should he put on an ass, horse whipped, taken through Lahore town on a donkey as kids whip his a$$ with slippers. Tahmed, hamid and PH, all three hands tied on the back of a donkey, paraded and jeered through Lahore town....that is what they deserve...

Another hallmark of these devils is the supplying of both sides and then fueling the conflict, a great way of building demand for the multi shape (zero function) paper weights they sell....Every single dollar spent on these is a dollar less spent on the people, and more needless deaths and a weaker nation state year after year.........

Pakistan's Order Lifts F-16 plant

By Charles R. Babcock and Renae Merle
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 26, 2005; Page D12

The Bush administration's decision to sell F-16 fighter planes to Pakistan is likely to be as warmly greeted in Fort Worth as it is in Karachi.

That's because Lockheed Martin Corp. has said it needs new orders for the jet before this fall, or it will have to take action to close the production line there that employs about 5,000 workers.

Dwindling F-16 orders made Lockheed's Fort Worth plant payroll decline to 5,000 early this year. (Michael Ainsworth -- Dallas Morning News)

Lockheed spokesman Tom Jurkowsky said the company "has not been officially notified by the U.S. government of any agreement" with Pakistan.

Bethesda-based Lockheed, the nation's largest defense contractor, has produced more than 4,000 of the versatile F-16s since the late 1970s, nearly half of them for customers overseas. The Fort Worth plant delivered its last F-16 to the U.S. Air Force last month, Jurkowsky said, but is still building planes for the governments of Israel, Chile, Poland and the United Arab Emirates.

Lockheed and other global defense manufacturers depend on sales of sophisticated military weaponry to boost their bottom line. The company has sold F-16s to 24 countries and makes them overseas, too, in Europe, Turkey and Korea.

The Fort Worth plant had about 5,800 workers in January 2004. By this January, it was down to about 5,000, and it was scheduled to be down to 4,000 by next January, according to Jurkowsky.

It takes about three years to build an F-16, he added, noting the company has back orders for about 200 aircraft. "Right now the last one would come off the line in 2008," he said.

Richard Aboulafia, an aircraft analyst with the Teal Group in Fairfax, called the sale of two dozen fighter planes to Pakistan "a happy juxtaposition of the wants and needs" of an ally in the war on terrorism and Lockheed's troubled F-16 line. The bigger issue for Lockheed, he said, is the chance to sell another 100 or more F-16s to India, Pakistan's rival in the Asian subcontinent.

India, which uses some Soviet-era aircraft, has said it is in the market for new fighter planes. The imminent sale to Pakistan may cause the Indian government to consider the American plane.

Aboulafia recalled that Lockheed's production of the popular plane was "saved" in 1992 when the administration of President George H.W. Bush announced the sale of 150 F-16s to Taiwan.

The cost of the plane is determined by many variables, including how many are purchased and how they are equipped, Jurkowsky said. Aboulafia estimated that an F-16 "with a full tank of gas" costs between $30 million and $40 million, with upgrades, spare parts and other equipment adding 150 percent more to the price tag.

Despite the concerns Indian officials expressed yesterday about news of the sale to Pakistan, the analyst said the prospect of both countries buying F-16s is a positive. "Two countries that have F-16s have never fought a war."

Staff researcher Richard Drezen contributed to this report.

in #19 read "who dumb their useless, outdated, bogus industrial surplus." as

who dump their useless, outdated, bogus industrial surplus

There are a million ways of legitimizing theft by the peons of the West when they get crumbs from their masters who dumb their useless, outdated, bogus industrial surplus that will do not even perform the function it was originally designed to perform, like those F-16s, the second hand ones with no air defense penetration capability and big (radar)signatures on them saying destroy us before we get a chance to fly- costing at the bare minimum $40 million a piece- you can bet your assets that the generals who approve such contracts are on the payroll of Lockheed Martin as they suck the blood of the Pakistani people. When I was teaching at the govt university the dept head had formed a great lucrative partnership with an HEC professor in order to get research grants in the millions after writing two page research proposals in bad english. Then he was dumping 4 classes on me of 60 students each, everyday and paying me Rs 25000 a month/ $390 a month, all included (after his initial offer of Rs 10,000 a month/month, $158, as salary while fleecing the people of millions- this is how they destroy this nation, and the money flows out to their white masters for such useless equipment and research that has not changed one life.

tahir,

The seizing of assets is part of teh paki culture and is resorted to even by the govt. here is a news item, a man accused of some crime, and the paki legal system has ordered the seizing of his assets. A nation for which gaznavi is the hero, one cannot expect anything different.

As a pakistani, hold your head in shame for the legal system

from dawn of today

Court orders confiscation of Mehsud’s property



By Mudassir Raja


RAWALPINDI, April 21: An accountability court on Monday ordered confiscation of movable and immovable property of Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud and his four associates allegedly involved in the assassination of PPP chairperson Benazir Bhutto after formally declaring them proclaimed offenders.