Don’t Hang Sarabjeet

Re: # 36 DM

I understand what you wrote, but the problem is that courts of law do not recognize the "raised concerns". they have to look at the evidence. Usually the losing part always makes such fuss, and winning aprty always considers it a victory of justice when the verdict turns their way. GOI is doing a miserable job by not providing legal assistance to Sarabjit if it considers that the "raised voices" have some weight.

Urstruly#35:

I too have not followed this case closely but I believe that it was tried in the civilian courts. But I also am aware that the civilian courts did not act entirely independently during the military regime.

"So far I have not heard any voice challenging the evidence or the legal proceedings."

Such voices have been raised, at least in the Indian media, it seems that the case relies mostly on statements by the accused under police interrogation (and you know what that means) and another witness who have retracted their earlier statements. Even the statements of Nawaz and Ansar that I copied seem to suggest that they are not sure if the proceedings were fair.

I personally think that the much vaunted back-channel diplomacy should be able to arrange for a prisoner swap in this situation.

Re: # 34 DM

I am unfamiliar with the history of court proceedings in this case but I have a feeling that the verdict was given by civilian courts; whereby all verdicts and their related documents are catalogued in the books of legal verdicts. These books are made available to general public especially lawyers who use such refernce as to quote precedence in future cases.

So far I have not heard any voice challenging the evidence or the legal proceedings.

This is the situation as it is. But lets apply Murphy's law assume that all evidence was doctored and all proceedings were manipulated. In this case should the authorities let a convict go just because some people are raising hue and cry? Even if that is the case, no government no matter how corrupt would, let a convict go because it undermines its own authority in a bigger scheme of things.

I do not know if Sarabjit has exhausted all his avenues of appeal or not because if he has not then he can file a petition to re-open his case.

But if he has already exhausted all the avenues of an appeal his best option would be to invoke the law of Qisas. Once he has done that Indian government, NGOs, and affluent community should work out a deal with the monetary compensation with the victims. I am pretty sure that with a handsome settlement and a lovey dovey media propaganda this deal is quite possible.

Look, this avenue is guarnteed by the Pakistani constitution (or whatever is left of it) and the law. The only reason that the corrupt, pro-western, coward ruling elite do not let this law into practice because these cowrds are scared to death that their foreign masters would be aggravated by it because the law has the word "Islamic" as an adjective attched to it. Because of this criminal negligence and in defiance of law of God Pakistan has become the fourth country in the world that imparts the death penalty and yet the rate of murders is as high as if country is at war.

Urstruly#30:

How do know if the courts really found him guilty or just gave a verdict based on what the higher-ups wanted? The verdict was given when Musharraf was still maintaing a hostile posture towards India. Notice that both Nawaz Sharief and Burney are casting doubts on his being guilty:

Nawaz Sharif asks Pak govt not to hang Sarabjit

April 28, 2008 22:08 IST


Efforts to save Indian national Sarabjit Singh from the gallows received a boost on Monday with former premier Nawaz Sharif asking the Pakistan government not to hang him on humanitarian grounds.

The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz chief, whose party is a key player in the ruling coalition led by the Pakistan People's Party, however, did not favour an unconditional pardon for Sarabjit, sentenced to death for his alleged involvement in bomb attacks that killed 14 people in 1990.

"Sarabjit should be released on the condition that he would be sent back to Pakistan if concrete evidence is found against him," Sharif was quoted as saying by TV news channels.

In an interview with the Aaj news channel, Sharif also suggested that any review of Sarabjit's case by the Pakistan government should be linked to similar action by the Indian government in the cases of Pakistanis currently being held in the neighbouring country.

"After seeing the plight of the members of Sarabjit's family who have come to Pakistan, any person can feel the pain they are going through," Sharif said.

"But if this individual (Sarabjit) has actually carried out terrorist attacks, then no person can easily ignore that".

Sharif further said in the interview, "If the Pakistan government is to examine this matter, then the issue of Pakistanis being held in India for similar cases should be linked to it".

The other TV channels said Sharif hinted that Sarabjit could be swapped for Pakistanis currently being held in Indian jails.

Sharif's comments came even as authorities in Punjab province put off Sarabjit's hanging for up to three weeks.

Sarabjit was originally set to be hanged on April 1, but his execution was deferred for 30 days by President Pervez Musharraf [Images]. This was done so that Pakistan's new government could review his case following an appeal for clemency from the Indian government.

According to existing rules, Sarabjit's case has to be put up again before a local court for fixing a fresh date for the execution.

The fresh date cannot be fixed before a period of 14 days or after 21 days. This means that the execution will be postponed for up to three weeks, officials said.

Former Pakistani human rights minister Ansar Burney welcomed Sharif's comments and the decision to put off Sarabjit's hanging.

"It's a very good sign," Burney told PTI, adding he was ready to share the evidence he had gathered in Sarabjit's case with Sharif.

"Due to the suspicious nature of the case against Sarabjit, his execution should not be carried out. Relations between India and Pakistan are improving and India's External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee is scheduled to visit Pakistan next month. In view of these developments, the government should review Sarabjit's case," he said.

Burney also said he had sought appointments with Musharraf and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gillani to take up Sarabjit's case and was hopeful of meeting them sometime soon.

yep, pakis trying to make a buck from every situation... you guys are way ahead of bania on this, aren't you?

:)

Urstruly #31 {"My sincere advice to Hindus is that they should make an offer to pay Qisas and Diyat pre-emptively to the next of the kins of sarbjeet's victims. Make them an offer that they ccould not refuse"}

Urstruly,
Great! Also, the learned Alim Mr. Laddu has posted the prevailing rates from Soodi Arabia. So, Injuns, you better pray that most of Sarabjeet's Paki victims were Mirzaaees.

{"Blood of a Hindu woman.
Topic started by laddu on Apr 28, 2008 1:11:44 am
n the April 9, 2002 issue, The Wall Street Journal published the concept of blood money in Saudi Arabia . If a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay blood money or compensation, as follow.

100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man
50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman
50,000 riyals if a Christian man
25,000 riyals if a Christian woman
6,666 riyals if a Hindu man
3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman"}

My sincere advice to Hindus is that they should make an offer to pay Qisas and Diyat pre-emptively to the next of the kins of sarbjeet's victims. Make them an offer that they ccould not refuse.They must hire lawyers and file a case in supreme court asking for its interference to facilitate Qisas proceedings.

Releasing sarbjeet without the consent of the next of kins of his victims would be travesty of justice, unethical, and clear declaration of war against the the commands of Allah. The laws of Qisas (blood money) and Diyat (compensation for injury) are the laws of the land. The only way sarbjeet be spared of noose is if all of the kins of his victims agree to accept blood money. Presidents, especially this piece of shit, should have no authority in this regard.

Those librals whose ears and tails get straightened out whenever they hear an "Islamic law" should stay calm and understand this that their masters, the white people, have started doing that too. For example, Libyan dicattor paid blood money to the Airline crash victims and everybody turned into buddies. The same libyan dicator got his money back plus more in exchange for the white nurses and doctors who infected libyan children with AIDS virus. See they are all buddies now. Now you can lower your tail and hair on your neck. Ok?

Zee:

Okay, I see your point.

And I agree. There should be a prisoner exchange and most likely, this will take place. I cant see how Pakistani authorities can release Sarbjeet without getting anything in return, especially after the Khalid Mehmood tragedy.

#27 Posted by dost_mittar,

Bracketing Indian Muslims with Kashmiri Muslims is incorrect, Dost. The Kashmiris didn't become Indian by choice, all the others did. So, in the Pakistani mind, they're in a category of their own and Pakistanis do feel responsible for them.

Re Surabjit singh, I really think he should be released in a prisoner exchange. Not for Guru, because he didn't deny his aiding and abetting (though only that, he didn't pull any trigger), but for the innocent Pakistanis (like the late Khalid Mehmood) in Indian jails.

Indians did a real hash of handling the Khalid Mehmood case. He likely died under police torture but why did they have to send his coffin to Pakistan and that, too, exactly when Kashmir Singh was sent back to India? Morons!

Sarabjit is likely a low level RAW agent collecting some intelligence but RAW is not known for exploding trains. There is something fishy about a case where people, inclding the accused, give one statement to the police and retract it later. It is well known that courts under Musharraf decided high profile cases under orders from above.

As for Afzal Guru, he is an Indian citizen and let his Indian friends fight for him. Does Mr. Pirzada feel that Indian Muslims are still a responsibility of Pakistan?

masadi,

you must thank me for that.

Re: # 24

masadi saab, you are more stupid and paranoid than i thought saab

i have nothing to do with tahmeedi saab, i swear by Allah Mian saab. i am a kalma go musalman saab

You all can note how much busted these peons feel by the nicks they have been forced to construct, we have peonoftheeast, peonofthewest and US Elite, I have probably inspired more nicks than most!

You all can note how much busted these peons feel by the nicks they have been forced to construct, we have peonoftheeast, peonofthewest and US Elite, I have probably inspired more nicks than most!

peon writes "and majamidar saab, what you forget saab that ZAB was no good either saab.."

He was no good for the peons of the West and their masters for sure but for the people he was the best this country had seen and has seen to date