Don’t Hang Sarabjeet

Re: # 144

Massaddi Mian:

"...R2d(T)32...."

Is this your best effort to introduce humor in your write-ups?

Please remind us the humor in it. Is it you being mathematically challenged or something else?

Re: # 145

I think it is quite humourous who have any interest in wars, like war on terra, indo-pak wars, war of paniput, starwars, etc. etc.

If you still don't get it, R2D2 was the name of a robot in the some early starwar movies, who happened to be gay and whose personality was very much like that of the object of massadais praise.

#135 Posted by iqbal492,

You're really amazing. The people who were targeted in Luna Caprese were FBI/CIA people. They had arrived in unmarked cars with just small stickers on the driver side windows giving the security code for the Embassy entrance. The bombers actually knew when they were going to arrive and where they were going to be seated. In the lawn and not inside. They bombed the lawn. It was not a suicide bomber but a planted bomb well in advance.

And you're worried about who will visit Pakistan? You want Pakistan Police to arrest and prosecute these bombers like petty thieves as if they could?

Grow up, kid.

zemax#133:

I haven't read the story but it doesn't look good for poor Sarabjeet. What happened to the followers of the famed Chanakya Neeti?

Urstruly#139:
"From the secular point of view, if sarbjeet is hanged today, indians will hang a pakistani tit for tat"

It seems that you are not quite familiar with how the Indian judicial system works; it is not under political or public pressure. Death sentence is awarded in the rarest of rare cases, not more than five or six hangings have taken place in the last decade or so. However, what goes on in police interrogations or encounters is another matter.

Intelligence operatives and agents:

People who cross the border on behalf of intelligence agencies are not "agents" as the term is generally understood. These are poor, poorly educated people who are paid lump sum amounts by the intelligence agents and helped to cross the border to bring some low level information. I know that in the old days, agennts of both countries preferred to recruit Christian Punjabis who had relatives on the other side and could easily merge in the host society. Looks like they have run out of Christians now. But these poor blokes should not be confused with agents on the regular payroll of intelligence agencies.

Re: # 150
what about the poor blokes who plant bombs in the trains?

So far, paid operatives are not commonly known for planting bombs in the trains; this is another reason why this case is so suspect.

Re: # 152

What you say is heresay and has no value as an evidence in court of law that could save sarabjit's life.

Urstruly#153:

Are you suggesting that Pakistani courts under military rule were independent of political pressures and decidedly solely on the basis of untainted evidence? Remember what happened when the CJ took some decision not to the liking of the men in khakis?

Besides this case, how many other cases do you know of mercenary,indulging in such acts? Whether it was Sri Lanka, Nepal, Ireland, India or Pakistan ideological considerations seem to be the primary motive.

#154
"Remember what happened when the CJ took some decision not to the liking of the men in khakis?"

What?
Mostly governments interfere in politically motivated cases.
I doubt that there is much interference in any court system over the criminal proceedings. Unless the case is against a politician and politically motivated.

CJ Iftikhar Chaudry was not removed for some criminal cases. He was asking that people be prosecuted, if there are cases against them. He wanted missing persons to be produced before the courts for prosecution.
He was also running political cases about Mush's election etc.

Re: # 154 DM

Try telling that to the dictator's government that his courts are not fair therefore let sarabjit go. I think you are not fully comprehending the garvity of the situation where the life of a man (presumed innocent by many) hangs in balance, and you are trying to engage in ideological debates?

There are only two possible ways to save Sarbjit's life:

1. Either this dicator commutes his sentence, chances of which are becoming bleaker as 1 pakistani per week is being extrajudicially executed in Indian jails.

2. The legal council of Sarbjits files a petition to invoke the law of Qisas. That will buy GOI sometime while they continue their diplomatic efforts on option# 1 as well. Thus GOI will have some leverage.

AS for Sarabjit, frankly, no one in India or Pakistan gives a shit whether he lives or dies. After he is hanged there will be hue and cry for about 7.5 days and no one will remember him until India will hang a pakistani in reciprocation.

#155155:

I am suggesting that in a case of terrorism allegations involving the citizen of an enemy country with sensitive bilateral relations, political interference cannot be ruled out; whether or not such interference took place I have no way of knowing.

#156:

For saving the life of Sarabjit Singh, I think that a swap of prisoners is still a possibility; but to achieve that Indian diplomats will have to display much greater political savvy than they have done so far.

The braggging and boasting bravado of self-admitted Indian spy Kashmira Singh upon his release does not help the cause of Sarabjit Singh and that Paki fool Ansar Burney. Of course the mutilated and tortured corpse of Khalid Mehmood taught all foolhardy Pakis the lessons of misplaced clemency for convicted Indians.

Re: # 159

Hey you half-hanood Salim Chauhan, what's your problem?... let pakis free the dude, he has suffered enough... if you have a dude on other side of the border, let's talk about an exchange... otherwise let him go...