Feroz Qutabshahi April 29, 2008
#681 Posted by anil on May 7, 2008 7:18:51 pm
Is it possible to get back onto the debate, or its curtains down?
I request to both Zeena and Ana to come back and debate their points. Both are important for Pakistani identity, and I for one would like to learn from both viewpoints.
I request to both Zeena and Ana to come back and debate their points. Both are important for Pakistani identity, and I for one would like to learn from both viewpoints.
#680 Posted by ana on May 7, 2008 7:04:35 pm
and zeena, a few more lights up your proverbial ass before i go.
1) i was born in Pakistan, behooda aurat, I lived in Lahore. I am a Pakistani. I am a Pakistani who identifies as a Pakistani, but has friends from various parts of the world, including India and Africa, and I am so sorry if that hurts your demented sensibilities. NOT.
2)Before you call me demented, look at your own posts, look at the style in which you write. And you call yourself an educated doctor. Obviously you are a doctor who cannot write without sounding hysterical, a word I hate to use for women, but since I think you're a fraud to boot, all bets are off.
3) I can slap just as hard as you can. Unfortunately I have practice. So please do not go wawawawawaing about how many slaps you've given me. Bas samnay aao jaan-e-maan, tainu maiN vhi dikhavaN gi.
And finally, I have no desire to interact with your puny ass self, who thinks she is so superior to everyone else, especially black people. But I'm telling you, unlike your dear friend majumdar, the root cause of your anger and hysteria is of no interest to me. If you think you are free to say whatever you want, and call the rest of us names, then so are we kuttiya. So don't get your chaddies all in a knot, baat aayi samajh maiN?
I am through talking to your ass today. Kal phir aa jana.
1) i was born in Pakistan, behooda aurat, I lived in Lahore. I am a Pakistani. I am a Pakistani who identifies as a Pakistani, but has friends from various parts of the world, including India and Africa, and I am so sorry if that hurts your demented sensibilities. NOT.
2)Before you call me demented, look at your own posts, look at the style in which you write. And you call yourself an educated doctor. Obviously you are a doctor who cannot write without sounding hysterical, a word I hate to use for women, but since I think you're a fraud to boot, all bets are off.
3) I can slap just as hard as you can. Unfortunately I have practice. So please do not go wawawawawaing about how many slaps you've given me. Bas samnay aao jaan-e-maan, tainu maiN vhi dikhavaN gi.
And finally, I have no desire to interact with your puny ass self, who thinks she is so superior to everyone else, especially black people. But I'm telling you, unlike your dear friend majumdar, the root cause of your anger and hysteria is of no interest to me. If you think you are free to say whatever you want, and call the rest of us names, then so are we kuttiya. So don't get your chaddies all in a knot, baat aayi samajh maiN?
I am through talking to your ass today. Kal phir aa jana.
#679 Posted by anil on May 7, 2008 6:57:49 pm
"#678 Ana: zeena, teri aisi ki taisi,..."
"#676 Zeena: looks like your itchy racist arse is still itching to fight.."
How can two of you helping your points. Both of you valid points.
Why can we not hear this debate instead.
#678 Posted by ana on May 7, 2008 6:29:29 pm
zeena, teri aisi ki taisi, why don't you come on unplugged and jharofy me there, are you afraid everyone else is going to light into you too.
if you want me to leave you the fcuk alone you pathetic excuse for an open-minded ----, then you're the one who has to stop being delusional. Now go take your dawaiyaN and Allah hafiz!
if you want me to leave you the fcuk alone you pathetic excuse for an open-minded ----, then you're the one who has to stop being delusional. Now go take your dawaiyaN and Allah hafiz!
#677 Posted by bjkumar on May 7, 2008 6:23:10 pm
#Little sis
You have the stamina of a tiger, and the attack style of a lioness!
Those who ridicule you do so at their own great peril!
And you sure know how to defend yourself. And you sure know how to defend that Pakistan - which sure needs a LOT of it so often!
I think miaN Mushy made a grave mistake by sending in those Jihadis into Kargil! If only he had any foresight, he would have sent you and not just the Indian security forces - perhaps even the inhabitants of the valley would have run away!
What to say of J&K, you could have easily grabbed Rajasthan and Punjab on the side!
Nobody dares to face my little sis - without running away!
To borrow your own inimitable words...
WAWAWAWAWAWAWWW!!!
#676 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2008 6:04:23 pm
[[[Post by ana on May 7, 2008 5:28:53 pm
i am done with zeena's racist ass for now -- until the next time.]]]
ana byatch
You see this is what I am pointing out...You're just pathetic.....
Well, I have had been DONE with your racist arse long time ago, but, it looks like your itchy racist arse is still itching to fight with me for NO reason at all. How many times do I got to remind you of my prior slaps on your both cheeks?...tsk, tsk, tsk....your cheeks don't got hurt and you itch for more slaps, you know why ? because you've now an addiction to all these slaps....
Listen, have mercy on your pathetic self and seek some psych treatment, I feel sorry for your racist arse and cheeks got beaten up million times, but still come back with no shame , no shame at all.
i am done with zeena's racist ass for now -- until the next time.]]]
ana byatch
You see this is what I am pointing out...You're just pathetic.....
Well, I have had been DONE with your racist arse long time ago, but, it looks like your itchy racist arse is still itching to fight with me for NO reason at all. How many times do I got to remind you of my prior slaps on your both cheeks?...tsk, tsk, tsk....your cheeks don't got hurt and you itch for more slaps, you know why ? because you've now an addiction to all these slaps....
Listen, have mercy on your pathetic self and seek some psych treatment, I feel sorry for your racist arse and cheeks got beaten up million times, but still come back with no shame , no shame at all.
#675 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2008 3:19:56 pm
[[[#636 Posted by ana on May 6, 2008 9:24:12 pm
Oh good grief, who the hell said that we should share one identity? Having things in common does not mean sharing one identity.
Can some of you simple learned minds understand that?]]]
ana sahiba
First of all I just wished to remind you which I have done million times in the past Not to interact with me in any sense or to my posts. My reason for not interacting with you are very clear. You always seem to be very senseless, irrational and confused delusional woman who has proved herself demented over and over again....
Anyway, I am NOT in any mood of interacting with you or about you, for me thats a waste of my precious time to waste on an illogical woman like you.
But, since you are harrassing me and attacking me along with your Indian friends persistently, I don't wish to stay quiet , as low class people like you feel threatened and then try to project as if my silence is my weakness....
First of all why are you harrassing me by attacking me and calling me racist? Where did I sound racist?
If, you're Christian and some Hindu threatens that he will bomb your home, what'll be your reaction? You'll smile and say thank you....b/c you'll react to that person, you'll be racist....wawawaw, what alogic.....only a moronish mind can have a twisted mindset like this....
Then I do not have anything in common with Indians....starting from my language, my features, my likes , my dislikes, my culture, my religion, my cast, my genes, my traditional values and my nationality are no way similar to Indians.....these are the things that needs to be shared when we talk about commonalities.....
If you feel you're Indian , then be it I will never question your identification issues, you are adult and have every right to be identified with Indians if you feel that you're NOT proud to be PAKISTANI and feel insecured by admitting that you're Pakistani and that separation of Pakistan from Hindustan was a mistake.....
If, you believe that it was mistake, then you already have closed this case of your identity. You are proud to be IDENTIFIED as an Indian, be it and congratulation for finally finding your lost identity.....LOL..
And I feel proud of Quaid-E-Azam who got us freedom and a great country, Pakistan....
If you believe that Pakistan is a mistake, then you should never go to Pakistan and call yourself Indian.....But, never ever tell all other patriotic Pakistanis that Pakistan is a mistake...
You're just a pathetic, jealous, and confused demented woman with NO sense at all and your mind is full of utter nonsense...
Now, get lost and never interact with me or about me and about Pakistan.....
Oh good grief, who the hell said that we should share one identity? Having things in common does not mean sharing one identity.
Can some of you simple learned minds understand that?]]]
ana sahiba
First of all I just wished to remind you which I have done million times in the past Not to interact with me in any sense or to my posts. My reason for not interacting with you are very clear. You always seem to be very senseless, irrational and confused delusional woman who has proved herself demented over and over again....
Anyway, I am NOT in any mood of interacting with you or about you, for me thats a waste of my precious time to waste on an illogical woman like you.
But, since you are harrassing me and attacking me along with your Indian friends persistently, I don't wish to stay quiet , as low class people like you feel threatened and then try to project as if my silence is my weakness....
First of all why are you harrassing me by attacking me and calling me racist? Where did I sound racist?
If, you're Christian and some Hindu threatens that he will bomb your home, what'll be your reaction? You'll smile and say thank you....b/c you'll react to that person, you'll be racist....wawawaw, what alogic.....only a moronish mind can have a twisted mindset like this....
Then I do not have anything in common with Indians....starting from my language, my features, my likes , my dislikes, my culture, my religion, my cast, my genes, my traditional values and my nationality are no way similar to Indians.....these are the things that needs to be shared when we talk about commonalities.....
If you feel you're Indian , then be it I will never question your identification issues, you are adult and have every right to be identified with Indians if you feel that you're NOT proud to be PAKISTANI and feel insecured by admitting that you're Pakistani and that separation of Pakistan from Hindustan was a mistake.....
If, you believe that it was mistake, then you already have closed this case of your identity. You are proud to be IDENTIFIED as an Indian, be it and congratulation for finally finding your lost identity.....LOL..
And I feel proud of Quaid-E-Azam who got us freedom and a great country, Pakistan....
If you believe that Pakistan is a mistake, then you should never go to Pakistan and call yourself Indian.....But, never ever tell all other patriotic Pakistanis that Pakistan is a mistake...
You're just a pathetic, jealous, and confused demented woman with NO sense at all and your mind is full of utter nonsense...
Now, get lost and never interact with me or about me and about Pakistan.....
#674 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2008 3:19:50 pm
[[[#636 Posted by ana on May 6, 2008 9:24:12 pm
Oh good grief, who the hell said that we should share one identity? Having things in common does not mean sharing one identity.
Can some of you simple learned minds understand that?]]]
ana sahiba
First of all I just wished to remind you which I have done million times in the past Not to interact with me in any sense or to my posts. My reason for not interacting with you are very clear. You always seem to be very senseless, irrational and confused delusional woman who has proved herself demented over and over again....
Anyway, I am NOT in any mood of interacting with you or about you, for me thats a waste of my precious time to waste on an illogical woman like you.
But, since you are harrassing me and attacking me along with your Indian friends persistently, I don't wish to stay quiet , as low class people like you feel threatened and then try to project as if my silence is my weakness....
First of all why are you harrassing me by attacking me and calling me racist? Where did I sound racist?
If, you're Christian and some Hindu threatens that he will bomb your home, what'll be your reaction? You'll smile and say thank you....b/c you'll react to that person, you'll be racist....wawawaw, what alogic.....only a moronish mind can have a twisted mindset like this....
Then I do not have anything in common with Indians....starting from my language, my features, my likes , my dislikes, my culture, my religion, my cast, my genes, my traditional values and my nationality are no way similar to Indians.....these are the things that needs to be shared when we talk about commonalities.....
If you feel you're Indian , then be it I will never question your identification issues, you are adult and have every right to be identified with Indians if you feel that you're NOT proud to be PAKISTANI and feel insecured by admitting that you're Pakistani and that separation of Pakistan from Hindustan was a mistake.....
If, you believe that it was mistake, then you already have closed this case of your identity. You are proud to be IDENTIFIED as an Indian, be it and congratulation for finally finding your lost identity.....LOL..
And I feel proud of Quaid-E-Azam who got us freedom and a great country, Pakistan....
If you believe that Pakistan is a mistake, then you should never go to Pakistan and call yourself Indian.....But, never ever tell all other patriotic Pakistanis that Pakistan is a mistake...
You're just a pathetic, jealous, and confused demented woman with NO sense at all and your mind is full of utter nonsense...
Now, get lost and never interact with me or about me and about Pakistan.....
Oh good grief, who the hell said that we should share one identity? Having things in common does not mean sharing one identity.
Can some of you simple learned minds understand that?]]]
ana sahiba
First of all I just wished to remind you which I have done million times in the past Not to interact with me in any sense or to my posts. My reason for not interacting with you are very clear. You always seem to be very senseless, irrational and confused delusional woman who has proved herself demented over and over again....
Anyway, I am NOT in any mood of interacting with you or about you, for me thats a waste of my precious time to waste on an illogical woman like you.
But, since you are harrassing me and attacking me along with your Indian friends persistently, I don't wish to stay quiet , as low class people like you feel threatened and then try to project as if my silence is my weakness....
First of all why are you harrassing me by attacking me and calling me racist? Where did I sound racist?
If, you're Christian and some Hindu threatens that he will bomb your home, what'll be your reaction? You'll smile and say thank you....b/c you'll react to that person, you'll be racist....wawawaw, what alogic.....only a moronish mind can have a twisted mindset like this....
Then I do not have anything in common with Indians....starting from my language, my features, my likes , my dislikes, my culture, my religion, my cast, my genes, my traditional values and my nationality are no way similar to Indians.....these are the things that needs to be shared when we talk about commonalities.....
If you feel you're Indian , then be it I will never question your identification issues, you are adult and have every right to be identified with Indians if you feel that you're NOT proud to be PAKISTANI and feel insecured by admitting that you're Pakistani and that separation of Pakistan from Hindustan was a mistake.....
If, you believe that it was mistake, then you already have closed this case of your identity. You are proud to be IDENTIFIED as an Indian, be it and congratulation for finally finding your lost identity.....LOL..
And I feel proud of Quaid-E-Azam who got us freedom and a great country, Pakistan....
If you believe that Pakistan is a mistake, then you should never go to Pakistan and call yourself Indian.....But, never ever tell all other patriotic Pakistanis that Pakistan is a mistake...
You're just a pathetic, jealous, and confused demented woman with NO sense at all and your mind is full of utter nonsense...
Now, get lost and never interact with me or about me and about Pakistan.....
#673 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2008 3:19:42 pm
[[[#636 Posted by ana on May 6, 2008 9:24:12 pm
Oh good grief, who the hell said that we should share one identity? Having things in common does not mean sharing one identity.
Can some of you simple learned minds understand that?]]]
ana sahiba
First of all I just wished to remind you which I have done million times in the past Not to interact with me in any sense or to my posts. My reason for not interacting with you are very clear. You always seem to be very senseless, irrational and confused delusional woman who has proved herself demented over and over again....
Anyway, I am NOT in any mood of interacting with you or about you, for me thats a waste of my precious time to waste on an illogical woman like you.
But, since you are harrassing me and attacking me along with your Indian friends persistently, I don't wish to stay quiet , as low class people like you feel threatened and then try to project as if my silence is my weakness....
First of all why are you harrassing me by attacking me and calling me racist? Where did I sound racist?
If, you're Christian and some Hindu threatens that he will bomb your home, what'll be your reaction? You'll smile and say thank you....b/c you'll react to that person, you'll be racist....wawawaw, what alogic.....only a moronish mind can have a twisted mindset like this....
Then I do not have anything in common with Indians....starting from my language, my features, my likes , my dislikes, my culture, my religion, my cast, my genes, my traditional values and my nationality are no way similar to Indians.....these are the things that needs to be shared when we talk about commonalities.....
If you feel you're Indian , then be it I will never question your identification issues, you are adult and have every right to be identified with Indians if you feel that you're NOT proud to be PAKISTANI and feel insecured by admitting that you're Pakistani and that separation of Pakistan from Hindustan was a mistake.....
If, you believe that it was mistake, then you already have closed this case of your identity. You are proud to be IDENTIFIED as an Indian, be it and congratulation for finally finding your lost identity.....LOL..
And I feel proud of Quaid-E-Azam who got us freedom and a great country, Pakistan....
If you believe that Pakistan is a mistake, then you should never go to Pakistan and call yourself Indian.....But, never ever tell all other patriotic Pakistanis that Pakistan is a mistake...
You're just a pathetic, jealous, and confused demented woman with NO sense at all and your mind is full of utter nonsense...
Now, get lost and never interact with me or about me and about Pakistan.....
Oh good grief, who the hell said that we should share one identity? Having things in common does not mean sharing one identity.
Can some of you simple learned minds understand that?]]]
ana sahiba
First of all I just wished to remind you which I have done million times in the past Not to interact with me in any sense or to my posts. My reason for not interacting with you are very clear. You always seem to be very senseless, irrational and confused delusional woman who has proved herself demented over and over again....
Anyway, I am NOT in any mood of interacting with you or about you, for me thats a waste of my precious time to waste on an illogical woman like you.
But, since you are harrassing me and attacking me along with your Indian friends persistently, I don't wish to stay quiet , as low class people like you feel threatened and then try to project as if my silence is my weakness....
First of all why are you harrassing me by attacking me and calling me racist? Where did I sound racist?
If, you're Christian and some Hindu threatens that he will bomb your home, what'll be your reaction? You'll smile and say thank you....b/c you'll react to that person, you'll be racist....wawawaw, what alogic.....only a moronish mind can have a twisted mindset like this....
Then I do not have anything in common with Indians....starting from my language, my features, my likes , my dislikes, my culture, my religion, my cast, my genes, my traditional values and my nationality are no way similar to Indians.....these are the things that needs to be shared when we talk about commonalities.....
If you feel you're Indian , then be it I will never question your identification issues, you are adult and have every right to be identified with Indians if you feel that you're NOT proud to be PAKISTANI and feel insecured by admitting that you're Pakistani and that separation of Pakistan from Hindustan was a mistake.....
If, you believe that it was mistake, then you already have closed this case of your identity. You are proud to be IDENTIFIED as an Indian, be it and congratulation for finally finding your lost identity.....LOL..
And I feel proud of Quaid-E-Azam who got us freedom and a great country, Pakistan....
If you believe that Pakistan is a mistake, then you should never go to Pakistan and call yourself Indian.....But, never ever tell all other patriotic Pakistanis that Pakistan is a mistake...
You're just a pathetic, jealous, and confused demented woman with NO sense at all and your mind is full of utter nonsense...
Now, get lost and never interact with me or about me and about Pakistan.....
#672 Posted by anil on May 7, 2008 1:39:48 pm
Re: # 671
Zeemax Sahib:
"because that would be enna vaDDa jhut jeda koi hisaab naeeN. "
Yeh tou aap sazaa de rahein hain, Zeemax sahib.
Zeemax Sahib:
"because that would be enna vaDDa jhut jeda koi hisaab naeeN. "
Yeh tou aap sazaa de rahein hain, Zeemax sahib.
#671 Posted by zeemax on May 7, 2008 1:00:36 pm
#669 Posted by ana,
ana, thanks. Just needed reaffirmation, that's all.
You're a Pakistani, and everyone knows that. If you ever gave the slightest indication you agreed with these Indians, even Majumdar who's amongst the mildest, it would be "because that would be enna vaDDa jhut jeda koi hisaab naeeN. "
Take care ana.
ana, thanks. Just needed reaffirmation, that's all.
You're a Pakistani, and everyone knows that. If you ever gave the slightest indication you agreed with these Indians, even Majumdar who's amongst the mildest, it would be "because that would be enna vaDDa jhut jeda koi hisaab naeeN. "
Take care ana.
#670 Posted by zeemax on May 7, 2008 12:52:49 pm
#668 Posted by dost_mittar,
But I do not agree with your statement. Pakistan was created to protect the interests of India's Muslim minority, which it hasn't, as the Sachar report correctly points out.
Pakistan gave a choice. Those who didn't take it, are Indians, not Pakistanis. Pakistan even allowed migration till 50's. Pakistan has no issue with those who didn't take it.
Indian Muslims are Indian responsibility (except Kashmiris. They weren't given a choice).
What Pakistan has achieved, instead, is in protecting the Muslims of the majority provinces (esp. Bangladesh) from domination by the Hindu minority.
Of-course I agree with that. Where did I say I didn't? Perhaps you never asked me!
But I do not agree with your statement. Pakistan was created to protect the interests of India's Muslim minority, which it hasn't, as the Sachar report correctly points out.
Pakistan gave a choice. Those who didn't take it, are Indians, not Pakistanis. Pakistan even allowed migration till 50's. Pakistan has no issue with those who didn't take it.
Indian Muslims are Indian responsibility (except Kashmiris. They weren't given a choice).
What Pakistan has achieved, instead, is in protecting the Muslims of the majority provinces (esp. Bangladesh) from domination by the Hindu minority.
Of-course I agree with that. Where did I say I didn't? Perhaps you never asked me!
#669 Posted by ana on May 7, 2008 12:26:21 pm
zeemax:
first of all, even if I thought once upon a time that Partition was a mistake that doesn't mean that I have any disregard for my country or more love for Indians than Pakistanis. I don't feel I have to defend myself again and again on this score. So do not be so quick to judge, please.
Secondly what I said was in response to majumdar's comment about Beejay, and partition being a mistake and delegitmizizing Pakistan and whatever else he said, (am in a time crunch, so cannot go back to look). My response was that I may think Partition was a mistake, but I do not see it in the same light. I was not agreeing with any of the "horrible hindoos" here. I was not delegitimizing, or de-anything Pakistan. Now if you do not accept my explanation, ye alag baat hai. But do not tell me that I do not love my country and where I come from, because that would be enna vaDDa jhut jeda koi hisaab naeeN.
and now I am late to work.
first of all, even if I thought once upon a time that Partition was a mistake that doesn't mean that I have any disregard for my country or more love for Indians than Pakistanis. I don't feel I have to defend myself again and again on this score. So do not be so quick to judge, please.
Secondly what I said was in response to majumdar's comment about Beejay, and partition being a mistake and delegitmizizing Pakistan and whatever else he said, (am in a time crunch, so cannot go back to look). My response was that I may think Partition was a mistake, but I do not see it in the same light. I was not agreeing with any of the "horrible hindoos" here. I was not delegitimizing, or de-anything Pakistan. Now if you do not accept my explanation, ye alag baat hai. But do not tell me that I do not love my country and where I come from, because that would be enna vaDDa jhut jeda koi hisaab naeeN.
and now I am late to work.
#668 Posted by dost_mittar on May 7, 2008 12:13:59 pm
zeemax:
"firstly she shouldn't and secondly she should read the Sachar Report"
I do agree that Pakistan has been hugely beneficial to the Muslims of Pakistan (largely by removing competetion form Hindu and Sikh Punjabis).
But I do not agree with your statement. Pakistan was created to protect the interests of India's Muslim minority, which it hasn't, as the Sachar report correctly points out. What Pakistan has achieved, instead, is in protecting the Muslims of the majority provinces (esp. Bangladesh) from domination by the Hindu minority.
"firstly she shouldn't and secondly she should read the Sachar Report"
I do agree that Pakistan has been hugely beneficial to the Muslims of Pakistan (largely by removing competetion form Hindu and Sikh Punjabis).
But I do not agree with your statement. Pakistan was created to protect the interests of India's Muslim minority, which it hasn't, as the Sachar report correctly points out. What Pakistan has achieved, instead, is in protecting the Muslims of the majority provinces (esp. Bangladesh) from domination by the Hindu minority.
#667 Posted by masadi on May 7, 2008 9:33:19 am
g'night, let me hear Zardari make a damn fool of himself by trying to appear smarter than he actually is....reminds me of that other damn fool, Musharraf...
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