Juan Sandoval May 3, 2008
#65 Posted by masanamuthu on May 5, 2008 7:45:49 am
He is seen as the main reason of uncontrolled immigration problem, Bengal is currently facing.
ROFL. yeah right. also blame Gandhi for the rising gas prices.
ROFL. yeah right. also blame Gandhi for the rising gas prices.
#66 Posted by vengatramanan on May 5, 2008 9:18:42 am
Re: # 62
Eklavya brother,
Your wish my fortune.
Eklavya brother,
Your wish my fortune.
#67 Posted by VRV on May 5, 2008 6:11:46 pm
#55 Posted by nkg on May 5, 2008 5:54:28 am
'Kicked all the British owned companies (construction companies), which used to provide technological backbone.'
Constrcution companies providing technological backbone? Give some other points. It's laughable that construcution companies are tech backbones!
'Today you are seeing L & T etc...Calcutta/Howrah was host of such companies, which was number one in Asia (Burns Standards etc...).'
What I saw in Calcutta is nothing but the graveyards of the bygone era. Do some introspection as to what ppl say abt Beganali work culture. (Have u heard this? Bengalis are like sperm, one in a million work). If companies were closed, it's only becoz of the host of non-Nehru reasons. Pl find some other scape-goat.
'The IIT, constitution etc...was brainchild of Bengal Congress leaders (Dr. B C Roy); which people give credit to Nehru...'
Boy nkg, even Ambedkar shud not be given credit for the Constitution. He's just the Head od the body! Need no elaboration.
'Regarding Nathuram Godse...Gandhi was supposed to be killed. So much bloodshed, and he will evade it!!!! But this poor chap made it very early. Gandhi was supposed to see his unpopularity and then die...Poor chap had not allowed that... '
Godse killed Gandhi once but ppl like u never seem to let him rest in peace. You guys kill him everyday.
'Kicked all the British owned companies (construction companies), which used to provide technological backbone.'
Constrcution companies providing technological backbone? Give some other points. It's laughable that construcution companies are tech backbones!
'Today you are seeing L & T etc...Calcutta/Howrah was host of such companies, which was number one in Asia (Burns Standards etc...).'
What I saw in Calcutta is nothing but the graveyards of the bygone era. Do some introspection as to what ppl say abt Beganali work culture. (Have u heard this? Bengalis are like sperm, one in a million work). If companies were closed, it's only becoz of the host of non-Nehru reasons. Pl find some other scape-goat.
'The IIT, constitution etc...was brainchild of Bengal Congress leaders (Dr. B C Roy); which people give credit to Nehru...'
Boy nkg, even Ambedkar shud not be given credit for the Constitution. He's just the Head od the body! Need no elaboration.
'Regarding Nathuram Godse...Gandhi was supposed to be killed. So much bloodshed, and he will evade it!!!! But this poor chap made it very early. Gandhi was supposed to see his unpopularity and then die...Poor chap had not allowed that... '
Godse killed Gandhi once but ppl like u never seem to let him rest in peace. You guys kill him everyday.
#68 Posted by guru on May 5, 2008 8:13:18 pm
Both Larsen and Toubro were not British. Started as ship boiler repair shop. Both took voluntary retirement in 1950s. They did not have great engineering or business background. This was their first venture. Genius was puting Inidan management in place and giving 100% control to it. Professional managers and technocrats built this highly professional organization. It was/is Indian company from the beginning.
Infact they got large BARC contracts some very stealth ones.
JN may not have been the best of the leaders of that time, when compared to stalwarts such as Subhash Chandra, Vallabhai Patel, Rajaji and few others, but he was defnitely in league because of his vision, sacrifice and dedication. Little vain and foolish dreamer in the world politics. Definitely created solid industrial base for India.
Tata & Birla actually had a free ride because of license raj, so became lazy.
India could not have become S. Korea because Angloes always felt threatened by civilizational India and socialistic argumentative Indian. We might have turned into Bakiland if we had not used Soviets well. Pl give some credit to JN and his daughter. His daughter was the only real man who ruled India since 66. Narsimha Rao comes close second in statesmanship and shrudeness. Tactical Baki leaders which includes MAJ & Bhutto are not worth comparing to these three.
Infact they got large BARC contracts some very stealth ones.
JN may not have been the best of the leaders of that time, when compared to stalwarts such as Subhash Chandra, Vallabhai Patel, Rajaji and few others, but he was defnitely in league because of his vision, sacrifice and dedication. Little vain and foolish dreamer in the world politics. Definitely created solid industrial base for India.
Tata & Birla actually had a free ride because of license raj, so became lazy.
India could not have become S. Korea because Angloes always felt threatened by civilizational India and socialistic argumentative Indian. We might have turned into Bakiland if we had not used Soviets well. Pl give some credit to JN and his daughter. His daughter was the only real man who ruled India since 66. Narsimha Rao comes close second in statesmanship and shrudeness. Tactical Baki leaders which includes MAJ & Bhutto are not worth comparing to these three.
#69 Posted by Ras on May 5, 2008 8:17:39 pm
I am glad that her ashes will touch the Indus River.
Ras
#70 Posted by majumdar on May 5, 2008 8:26:55 pm
VRV,
(You guys kill him everyday. )
And his followers dont follow him.
Regards
(You guys kill him everyday. )
And his followers dont follow him.
Regards
#71 Posted by majumdar on May 5, 2008 8:28:41 pm
Kaal bhai,
(Adieu Gandhi and Gandhism. May you prosper in the rest of the world. We will miss you but like any good parent, India must part with your for your own good.)
I have already offered Zee sahib an exchange scheme. Pakistan exports all its kanjars, kanjaris and mirasis to us, in turn we export our mullahs, Gandhians and Marxists to Pak.
Regards
(Adieu Gandhi and Gandhism. May you prosper in the rest of the world. We will miss you but like any good parent, India must part with your for your own good.)
I have already offered Zee sahib an exchange scheme. Pakistan exports all its kanjars, kanjaris and mirasis to us, in turn we export our mullahs, Gandhians and Marxists to Pak.
Regards
#72 Posted by nkg on May 5, 2008 9:18:13 pm
Re: # 67
VRV...
The basic technology of civilisation is provided by civil engineering companies. Civil and Mechanical engineering is mother of all engineering and technology. It creates the backbone of nation- Dam, Roads, bridges etc...During 1947, what other technology do you expect them to produce? Color TV, Refrigerator, Digital Camera?
Burns Standard, Bridge & Roof, Martin Burn etc. were pioneer in construction and railway engineering. Howrah Bridge was the largest cantelever construction in Asia..Thanks to the Bengali Engineers and Bihari workers...
The steel industry, chemical industry were adversely impacted by British exodus...
A vibrant industry was killed by Gandhi and his disciple Nehru to suppress Bengalees...What you are seeing now is the result of successful poisoning by cow belt leaders Gandhi and Nehru...
Regarding IITs...
Nehru had nothing to do with Technology. His father was servant under a moslem lawyear. During those days, lawyears used to earn more money than any other profession. Motilal somehow managed money and sent his son to study in UK. Before becoming PM), Nehru had no interaction with Technology.
IIT saga started with Dr. B C Roy. The premier engineering institute at that time was Bengal Engineering College, Sibpur, Howrah ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Engineering_and_Science_University,_Shibpur) . It used to get technical assistance from Manchester University ( one of the poineer institutes in UK). Dr. Roy was closely associated with B E College and wanted to create similar institute in West Bengal. Brits had just left India. So, instead of relying on Manchester University, he wanted similar institute in USA and opted for MIT. The first IIT was setup in Kharagput with help of MIT. It was replicated later...
Regarding work culture...British had invested most in Bengal. If Bengalis were averse to work, then how come these industries were flourishing. What was the first steel plant in India? IISCO- Burnpur. The same work culture of Bengalis made them number one state during British rule and after 1947 Bengali work culture got changed!!!
Yes Mr. VRV, Gandhi needs peace....
Such a mass murderer needs peace!!!
Do you know, how many people of East Bengal were displaced, how many people were killed during 194xs? Who was responsible for large refugee influx into West Bengal?
http://www.bengalvoice.com/uproot_chapter6.htm
Gandhi was a petty lawyear. He had no extra-ordinary quality in any field (good academician? No. Extra-ordinary legal professional? No...). To be a leader, you need something above average talent, such that people respect you and follow you. When he was kicked in South Africa, he had realised the need of freedom and problem of racism!!! And you make such a person (needs to be kicked to teach- laton ka bhoot), father of a nation with 4000 years of civilisational history!!! Gandhi was pure baniya and with the people interaction skill,he was quite aware that majority of Indians dislike violence. If common people would have preferred that path, islamic invaders would have been kicked long back as well as these Brits...So, he had toes with the public sentiment...
Vengat, Gandhi was not proponent of peace. He had adopted the path, Indians prefer and earned fame...
VRV...
The basic technology of civilisation is provided by civil engineering companies. Civil and Mechanical engineering is mother of all engineering and technology. It creates the backbone of nation- Dam, Roads, bridges etc...During 1947, what other technology do you expect them to produce? Color TV, Refrigerator, Digital Camera?
Burns Standard, Bridge & Roof, Martin Burn etc. were pioneer in construction and railway engineering. Howrah Bridge was the largest cantelever construction in Asia..Thanks to the Bengali Engineers and Bihari workers...
The steel industry, chemical industry were adversely impacted by British exodus...
A vibrant industry was killed by Gandhi and his disciple Nehru to suppress Bengalees...What you are seeing now is the result of successful poisoning by cow belt leaders Gandhi and Nehru...
Regarding IITs...
Nehru had nothing to do with Technology. His father was servant under a moslem lawyear. During those days, lawyears used to earn more money than any other profession. Motilal somehow managed money and sent his son to study in UK. Before becoming PM), Nehru had no interaction with Technology.
IIT saga started with Dr. B C Roy. The premier engineering institute at that time was Bengal Engineering College, Sibpur, Howrah ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Engineering_and_Science_University,_Shibpur) . It used to get technical assistance from Manchester University ( one of the poineer institutes in UK). Dr. Roy was closely associated with B E College and wanted to create similar institute in West Bengal. Brits had just left India. So, instead of relying on Manchester University, he wanted similar institute in USA and opted for MIT. The first IIT was setup in Kharagput with help of MIT. It was replicated later...
Regarding work culture...British had invested most in Bengal. If Bengalis were averse to work, then how come these industries were flourishing. What was the first steel plant in India? IISCO- Burnpur. The same work culture of Bengalis made them number one state during British rule and after 1947 Bengali work culture got changed!!!
Yes Mr. VRV, Gandhi needs peace....
Such a mass murderer needs peace!!!
Do you know, how many people of East Bengal were displaced, how many people were killed during 194xs? Who was responsible for large refugee influx into West Bengal?
http://www.bengalvoice.com/uproot_chapter6.htm
Gandhi was a petty lawyear. He had no extra-ordinary quality in any field (good academician? No. Extra-ordinary legal professional? No...). To be a leader, you need something above average talent, such that people respect you and follow you. When he was kicked in South Africa, he had realised the need of freedom and problem of racism!!! And you make such a person (needs to be kicked to teach- laton ka bhoot), father of a nation with 4000 years of civilisational history!!! Gandhi was pure baniya and with the people interaction skill,he was quite aware that majority of Indians dislike violence. If common people would have preferred that path, islamic invaders would have been kicked long back as well as these Brits...So, he had toes with the public sentiment...
Vengat, Gandhi was not proponent of peace. He had adopted the path, Indians prefer and earned fame...
#73 Posted by majumdar on May 5, 2008 9:25:43 pm
Nkg,
You must dig up chowk's archives and read posts by Yasser (nicks- Mantiolives/YLH) on MKG. Your eyes will be opened. He has proven beyond doubt that MKG was a Hindu rcaist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak.
Regards
You must dig up chowk's archives and read posts by Yasser (nicks- Mantiolives/YLH) on MKG. Your eyes will be opened. He has proven beyond doubt that MKG was a Hindu rcaist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak.
Regards
#74 Posted by nkg on May 5, 2008 9:32:42 pm
Re: # 68
Guru...
Ans: I know, L & T was not british company.
When we talk about Konkan Railway and and other nice engineering construction created by L & T, we should remember, we had far better quality ( if you turn your clock back 1/2 century), British owned companies like B & R, Burns Standard used to produce best quality work in Asia...
Indira Gandhi, in which sense was better PM? The process Nehru started (politician & cow belt businessman nexus and resulting corruption), Indira Gandhi had taken that to peak.
In which field she had done good to India?
Guru...
Ans: I know, L & T was not british company.
When we talk about Konkan Railway and and other nice engineering construction created by L & T, we should remember, we had far better quality ( if you turn your clock back 1/2 century), British owned companies like B & R, Burns Standard used to produce best quality work in Asia...
Indira Gandhi, in which sense was better PM? The process Nehru started (politician & cow belt businessman nexus and resulting corruption), Indira Gandhi had taken that to peak.
In which field she had done good to India?
#75 Posted by nkg on May 5, 2008 9:39:09 pm
Re: # 68
Guru...
Ans: PVN was the first decent, educated PM of India. And fortunately, next PMs are also good.(ABV and MMS are also good)...
Guru...
Ans: PVN was the first decent, educated PM of India. And fortunately, next PMs are also good.(ABV and MMS are also good)...
#76 Posted by nkg on May 5, 2008 9:41:08 pm
Re: # 72
vengat..
Gandhi was not proponent of peace. He had adopted the path, Indians prefer and Gandhi earned fame.
vengat..
Gandhi was not proponent of peace. He had adopted the path, Indians prefer and Gandhi earned fame.
#77 Posted by VRV on May 6, 2008 2:30:57 am
#70 Posted by majumdar on May 5, 2008 8:26:55 pm
Majumdar,
That's a good repartee. I liked it.
(I am not a Gandhain, btw)
Majumdar,
That's a good repartee. I liked it.
(I am not a Gandhain, btw)
#78 Posted by VRV on May 6, 2008 2:36:01 am
#71 Posted by majumdar on May 5, 2008 8:28:41 pm
Behind the veneer of soft Chowky lurks a mini-Godse. I am scared now.
OK, What abt this Dada. We export all anti-Gandhians i.e Godseists and they export all liberals.
That'd complete the Partition in spirit.
Behind the veneer of soft Chowky lurks a mini-Godse. I am scared now.
OK, What abt this Dada. We export all anti-Gandhians i.e Godseists and they export all liberals.
That'd complete the Partition in spirit.
#79 Posted by VRV on May 6, 2008 2:41:44 am
#72 Posted by nkg on May 5, 2008 9:18:13 pm
nkg,
I need more time to answer ur points.
Majumdar,
U can invite Yasser to attack Gandhi now. That'd be great i.e. Hindu fundoos and Paakis joining hands (no surprise that Shyaama Prasad Mukherjee joined hands with Muslism fundoos; tho u despise each other in public u are blood bohters).
nkg,
I need more time to answer ur points.
Majumdar,
U can invite Yasser to attack Gandhi now. That'd be great i.e. Hindu fundoos and Paakis joining hands (no surprise that Shyaama Prasad Mukherjee joined hands with Muslism fundoos; tho u despise each other in public u are blood bohters).
#80 Posted by majumdar on May 6, 2008 2:56:13 am
VRV,
(That's a good repartee. I liked it. I am not a Gandhain, btw)
You can appreciate a differing POV and you have a sense of humour, so you can never be a Gandhian. The second sentence above was superfluous!!!
(Behind the veneer of soft Chowky lurks a mini-Godse.)
Your fellow secularist Sadnaji recently described me as a spokesperson for the Taliban and drug peddlers. Maybe the two of you can sort out whether I am a Godesite or a jihadi 'cos I can't be both at the same time.
(We export all anti-Gandhians i.e Godseists )
I am no fan of Godesites either, they oppose my fundamental right to enjoy the sight of my fellow (esp female) citizens indulging in kanjarpana. So we export our Godseites as well to Pak (along with the 3 of the 4 Ms- Marxists/Missionaries/Mullahs, the 4th Macaulayites will be needed for our IT/ITES industry)
(U can join hands with Muslism fundoos; tho u despise each other in public)
I don't despise Islamic fundoos at all. It is just that I want them to leave us Hindoos alone. Apart from that I have no dispute with them. As they say, there is no compulsion in religion, to them their ways, to me mine.
Btw, are you implying that YLH is a Muslim fundoo that wud be a surprise for I dont see how a non-Muslim (YLH) can be a Muslim fundoo.
Regards
(That's a good repartee. I liked it. I am not a Gandhain, btw)
You can appreciate a differing POV and you have a sense of humour, so you can never be a Gandhian. The second sentence above was superfluous!!!
(Behind the veneer of soft Chowky lurks a mini-Godse.)
Your fellow secularist Sadnaji recently described me as a spokesperson for the Taliban and drug peddlers. Maybe the two of you can sort out whether I am a Godesite or a jihadi 'cos I can't be both at the same time.
(We export all anti-Gandhians i.e Godseists )
I am no fan of Godesites either, they oppose my fundamental right to enjoy the sight of my fellow (esp female) citizens indulging in kanjarpana. So we export our Godseites as well to Pak (along with the 3 of the 4 Ms- Marxists/Missionaries/Mullahs, the 4th Macaulayites will be needed for our IT/ITES industry)
(U can join hands with Muslism fundoos; tho u despise each other in public)
I don't despise Islamic fundoos at all. It is just that I want them to leave us Hindoos alone. Apart from that I have no dispute with them. As they say, there is no compulsion in religion, to them their ways, to me mine.
Btw, are you implying that YLH is a Muslim fundoo that wud be a surprise for I dont see how a non-Muslim (YLH) can be a Muslim fundoo.
Regards
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