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#36 Tahir

Kambakhat Tahir,

Why are you so "fond" of the Cheema? Calling him a naked saadhu on a board he is not even on.

And BTW, why are you and your Islamist pals so sensitive to the "abuse" of Islam?

If your faith is strong enough, shouldn't it be able to handle it?

Why do you have to go chopping off heads simply because anybody - man, woman, or child - squeaks "I don't know about this!"?

#2Harimiou

'Self-hatred has been instillled in Hindus more effectively by Jwahirullah Nehru and his minions at JNU than by the Britishers.

Vaibhav Jain, however, is the first example of a Jain ashamed of not being a Muslim or Christian'

And what kind of Indian are you who does not understand any of the three national anthem of HINDU india?

Looks like u r ashamed to be Indian is it b/c u r more Tamil or dont understand Hindi or detest equality of human practiced in mosques unlike u r brahmin mandir ?Inquiring mind wants to know Jai Hind



sāre jahān se acchā hindostān hamārā
ham bulbulain hai is ki, yeh gulsitān hamārā

ghurbat men hon agar ham, rahta hai dil vatan men
samjho vahīn hamen bhī, dil hain jahān hamārā

parbat voh sab se ūnchā, hamsāya āsmān ka
voh santari hamārā, voh pāsbān hamārā

godi men kheltī hain is ki hazāron nadiyā
gulshan hai jin ke dam se, rashk-e-janān hamārā

aye āb, raud, ganga, voh din hen yād tujhko
utarā tere kināre, jab kārvān hamārā

maz'hab nahīn sikhātā āpas men bayr rakhnā
hindvi hai ham, vatan hai hindostān hamārā

yūnān-o-misr-o-romā, sab miṭ gaye jahān se
ab tak magar hai bāqi, nām-o-nishān hamārā

kuch bāt hai keh hastī, miṭati nahīn hamārī
sadiyon rahā hai dushman, daur-e-zamān hamārā

iqbal ko'ī meharam, apnā nahīn jahān men
m'alūm kya kisī ko, dard-e-nihān hamārā

Translation
Better than the entire world, is our Hindustan;
we are its nightingales of mirth, and it is our garden abode

Though in foreign lands we may reside, with our homeland our hearts abide,
Regard us also to be there, where exist our hearts

That mountain most high, neighbor to the skies;
it is our sentinel; it is our protector

In the lap of whose, play thousands of rivers;
gardens they sustain; the envy-of-the-heavens of ours

O waters of the Ganga mighty, do you recall the day
when on your banks, did land the caravan of ours

Religion does not teach us to harbour grudges between us
Indians we all are; India, our motherland

While Greece, Egypt , Rome have all been wiped out
till now yet remains, this civilization of ours {it has stood the test of time}

Something there is that keeps us,our entity from being eroded
For ages has been our enemy, the way of the world

Iqbal! Is there no soul that could
understand the pain in thy heart?

#2Harimiou

'Self-hatred has been instillled in Hindus more effectively by Jwahirullah Nehru and his minions at JNU than by the Britishers.

Vaibhav Jain, however, is the first example of a Jain ashamed of not being a Muslim or Christian'

And what kind of Indian are you who does not understand any of the three national anthem of HINDU india?

Looks like u r ashamed to be Indian is it b/c u r more Tamil or dont understand Hindi or detest equality of human practiced in mosques unlike u r brahmin mandir ?Inquiring mind wants to know Jai Hind



sāre jahān se acchā hindostān hamārā
ham bulbulain hai is ki, yeh gulsitān hamārā

ghurbat men hon agar ham, rahta hai dil vatan men
samjho vahīn hamen bhī, dil hain jahān hamārā

parbat voh sab se ūnchā, hamsāya āsmān ka
voh santari hamārā, voh pāsbān hamārā

godi men kheltī hain is ki hazāron nadiyā
gulshan hai jin ke dam se, rashk-e-janān hamārā

aye āb, raud, ganga, voh din hen yād tujhko
utarā tere kināre, jab kārvān hamārā

maz'hab nahīn sikhātā āpas men bayr rakhnā
hindvi hai ham, vatan hai hindostān hamārā

yūnān-o-misr-o-romā, sab miṭ gaye jahān se
ab tak magar hai bāqi, nām-o-nishān hamārā

kuch bāt hai keh hastī, miṭati nahīn hamārī
sadiyon rahā hai dushman, daur-e-zamān hamārā

iqbal ko'ī meharam, apnā nahīn jahān men
m'alūm kya kisī ko, dard-e-nihān hamārā

Translation
Better than the entire world, is our Hindustan;
we are its nightingales of mirth, and it is our garden abode

Though in foreign lands we may reside, with our homeland our hearts abide,
Regard us also to be there, where exist our hearts

That mountain most high, neighbor to the skies;
it is our sentinel; it is our protector

In the lap of whose, play thousands of rivers;
gardens they sustain; the envy-of-the-heavens of ours

O waters of the Ganga mighty, do you recall the day
when on your banks, did land the caravan of ours

Religion does not teach us to harbour grudges between us
Indians we all are; India, our motherland

While Greece, Egypt , Rome have all been wiped out
till now yet remains, this civilization of ours {it has stood the test of time}

Something there is that keeps us,our entity from being eroded
For ages has been our enemy, the way of the world

Iqbal! Is there no soul that could
understand the pain in thy heart?

It's funny that I'm euphemistic about this too.
'Banter' ... HA !

So, initially I thought I was to blame for this banter.
But on retrospect, I don't think we have ever needed a stimulus to start fighting amongst each other.
If y'all are indeed proud chowkies, please remember that this is a platform for dialogue and introspection and our motive or goal is lasting peace and understanding.
We all joined on this pretext.

Re: # 28
Any fake naked 'saadhu' can be your REAL friend, all because he abuses Islam!

I would not label Geeta-haters my friends.

Start talking sense by your 16th. birthday!

Re: # 30

Harimau,

No way. SC/STs are more affluent than you.

Btw, When is the sambandhi bojanam with them?

Muslims know to fight Amrikans. Can you fight the SC/STs?

@ nb (Comment #33)

I like your stand. It is definitive and sincere.
My friend feels the same about Marxist academics and their conceptualization of Indian History.

What about writers like Ram Sharan Sharma, Satish Chandra, Arjun and Indra Dev ? All of their stuff was scrapped and rewritten too. I mean evidential arguments is one thing but when passages upon passages are removed from textbooks with no explanation; that is simply distortion for political purposes - intellectual barbarianism.

Mistaken enigma: it is your perception, or dare I say it, your ideology, that determines the difference between ideological scrapping and ideological writing.
At least you have the honesty to admit ideology does play a role in the writing of history, and has for millenia.
For decades, there were no complaints when a predominantly, if not entirely Marxist/Congress view of history was sold to generations of schoolchildren. The other side of the picture needs to be seen as well, and I support the telling of the whole story.

*Correction*

I meant his/her language.

Though I'm tempted to think that it is definitely not the latter.

@ harimau (Comment #2)

It's convenient to say rectification of historical distortion and get away with it.
But then, why should I debate this 'who is right' issue with a person so judgmental that he/she lets it take charge of his language. The last thing I'll ever be ashamed of, sir, is being born a Jain.

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@ bjkumar ji (Comment# 27-28)

That was very poetic bjkumar ji.

I do look like I'm picking my nose. It's funny no one hypothesized that before. But then again, you have the poet's eyes.

Correction:

"there is no such creature as a kind Pakistani of the chowk kind!"

should be read as

"there is no such creature as a kind Pakistani of the chowk kind! (except Cheema sahib, of course!)"

Re: # 10

Eklavya, if this kambakhat writer is really a 20 year old student from India, shouldn't he be doing what he came here from Chandigarh to do?!

You know – like STUDYING!

Like studying Petroleum and Geosystems Engineering – instead of hanging out with a bunch of useless Pakistanis?!

Not just ANY bunch of useless Pakistanis – but the useless of the most useless – Pakistanis of the chowk kind!

Scratch out the “kind” – there is no such creature as a kind Pakistani of the chowk kind!

Kambakhat gaya kaam se!

BTW, if any of you want to see how this writer looks when picking his nose (come on, you all are DYING to see it!) check out this URL:

nazaronline.net/profiles/vjain.html

Vaibhav,

As a minority living in UK, I can give my view of political scenario in UK.

We have London Mayoral elections recently and the real contest was btw Labour and Tories. There's UK's BJP i.e. British National Party with an agenda similar to our BJP's. Tho their Mayoral candidate managed to enter the London Assembly on the basis of overall votes recvd, he's not treated as another politician by the rest of the Assembly, incl by conservatives. Even Mayor Boris refused to shake hand with the BNP leader.

The BNP's Richard Barnbrook is treated as a big pariah with even Tories NOT SITTING NEXT TO HIM NOR THEY WANT TO TALK TO HIM IN the London Assembly.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3872821.ece

The mainstream party candidates walked off the stage when Richard Barnbrook stepped up to speak after becoming, early on Saturday morning, the first member of the British National Party to win a seat on the London Assembly. Mr Barnbrook was unpeturbed.

He expects to be treated as a pariah for the next four years, but insists that he will not be cowed. “If I have to be a lone wolf I will be one,” he told The Times.

Mr Barnbrook, 47, said that he intends to become the voice of “true Londoners”, fighting against political correctness and preferential treatment for racial minorities. He will press for the Union Jack to be flown permanently over City Hall,........

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There're demonstrations against Barnbrook at City Hall by many whites.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-23482865-details /City+Hall+protesters+vow+to+force+out+new+BNP+politician/article.do


City Hall protesters vow to force out new BNP politician
Sri Carmichael, Evening Standard
07.05.08 Related Articles

More than 400 protesters gathered at City Hall to register their disgust at the election of a British National Party member to the London Assembly.


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Tho we have this Islamic extremism in our midst in India but the kinda of polity that's evolving is not good for India in the long run.

I only hope that India doesn't become a Hindu Pakistan.

However, I dont care if I become a foreign national by then.