The Raj Lives: India In Nepal

#12 Posted by nasah:

"...it is time to sit down with Naxalites and talk and ask them what the Indian mainstream can do for them to lay down their stupid arms?...."

What the Naxalites want is quite well known:

1. Implementation of land reform.
2. Transparency of the process whereby forests, meadows, parts of rivers etc. are contracted out by the govt.
3. More rights for low castes.

Now tell me hasan, will the govt. "give" in to these demands? Or do you think that the Naxals have to snatch these rights for themselves?

Re: # 9 10

Mujamdar and Kamath sahiban -- in India there are plenty of checks and balances except perhaps for the Modis of Gujrats.

Re: # 11

mayray bhai dost mitter sahib -- it is time to sit down with Naxalites and talk and ask them what the Indian mainstream can do for them to lay down their stupid arms?

Of course casteism is the bane of the backward Biharis -- Bihar was no better under the Brahmins, Rajputs and the Kayesthas coalition -- it is no better under the Yadavs or the current Kurmis -- may be it is time for the Naxalites to rule Bihar.

Nasah#5:

I must be missing something. Who is preventing the Naxalites to take part in the elections and become mainstream? It is they who believe that mainstream communists have sold out to the bourgeois democracy and revolution is the only way to change the power structure. Incidentally, much of the Naxalite activity seems to be directed against caste opression in the most socially backward part of the country.

Re: #8 Ms. Nasah:
"...What happened in Nepal is a triumph of open clean honest democratic elections...... very True. This how exactly fascists and Nazis came to power. You and I may not be living long enough to see that they would go out in a clean elections too. It never happened elsewhere unless they become a significant minority in a wider sense. There are always means to keep oneself in power. That is the nature of Communism.

kamath

Nasah sahib,

The problem with Commies is that left unchecked it becomes a case of one man, one vote, one time. The test of the pudding will be (if and) when the next elections take place in Nepal.

Regards

What happened in Nepal is a triumph of open clean honest democratic elections taming and civilizing the untamed killers with a chip of public's grievance on their shoulders.

The answer to world wide insurgency is not government operated terrorism -- but inclusive democracy and honest elections.

A hard core murderous communist Parachanda -- now for multiparty competition in governance and foreign investments! Bravo! -- Marxism has shed one-party rule! -- thanks to the 'democratic communism' of Indian variety.

3 cheers for democracy and its internationally supervised elections!!

The Chines revisionist Maoistas should learn from Nepali Maoists -- get rid of their repressive one-party system -- give Tibet a democratic autonomy within China -- and end their naked occupation of Tibet -- and build a "Dhraamshala" for Dalai Lama in Beijing.

And for the 'Itali' Congress and its communist cohorts -- like the Nepali Congress and its communist coalition -- it is time to bring the Naxalites into the mainstream -- whatever it takes.

It is difficult to agree with Ashok Mitra that the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)’s victory in the neighbouring country is cause for celebration for communists in India too The Communist Party of India (Marxist) has always maintained contact with the Maoists and lent support to their democratic movement against the Nepalese monarchy. The politburo of the CPI(M) had openly welcomed the results of the election to the constituent assembly in Nepal and the country’s transition to becoming a democratic republic. But manners of celebration have changed. It must be kept in mind that the Maoists and their underground struggle in Nepal as well as in parts of India, such as West Bengal, Jharkhand, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh or Chhattisgarh have 'never been' encouraged by intellectuals like Mitra. A celebration of the Maoist win in Nepal might be construed as tacit support to Maoists in India who have mostly been violent and killed civilians

It is difficult to agree with Ashok Mitra that the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)’s victory in the neighbouring country is cause for celebration for communists in India too (“History with grandeur”, April 25). The Communist Party of India (Marxist) has always maintained contact with the Maoists and lent support to their democratic movement against the Nepalese monarchy. The politburo of the CPI(M) had openly welcomed the results of the election to the constituent assembly in Nepal and the country’s transition to becoming a democratic republic. But manners of celebration have changed. It must be kept in mind that the Maoists and their underground struggle in Nepal as well as in parts of India, such as West Bengal, Jharkhand, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh or Chhattisgarh have never been encouraged by intellectuals like Mitra. A celebration of the Maoist win in Nepal might be construed as tacit support to Maoists in India who have mostly been violent and killed civilians

If India advised the Democratic coalition of Nepal to include the Maoists in the coalition -- how come the UPA does not welcome the Maxalites into the UPA mainstream? What is good for the Nepali Congress is not good for the Itali Congress?

UPA can live with Kargill Musharraf -- it can live with the Burma tin soldiers -- it was ready to sell the arms to the Nepali King of Spade -- it can massage the feet of Uncle Sam for some nuclear hand-out -- but it can't live with its own nincompoop Naxalites?

Is it so hard to tame the Bihari Buggers?

"it cannot be understood without taking into account the huge migration of Nepalese into India (also the migration of Indian traders to Nepal)"

Agreed.

#1 Posted by vivek:

"So for all their Communist manifesto, they are likely to be closer to India than China."

Unfortunately, Indian Foreign policy is ruled by naive (tribalistic) expectations as the one stated above. The Nepalese commies will be closer to whoever benifits them more, as it should be. The past is past and is sunk cost in politics.

(To the author). As far as India "helping" them is concerned ... it is total non-sense. Yes Indian Naxalites (in Bihar etc.) have helped the Nepalese Marxists, .... but there is a big difference between the Indian state and Indian naxalites.

As far as India/Nepal relationship is concerned .... it cannot be understood without taking into account the huge migration of Nepalese into India (also the migration of Indian traders to Nepal). Leave it out and you have Ba Ba Black sheep foreign policy (relationship).

I suppose now that the Red Party has assumed captaintncy for thr country, all should sail well.

kamath

Just a sidenote:
The Nepali Communists would not have been able to participate in the parliamentary elections, had it not been for the GOI's pressure on the Nepalese govt. to allow them to do so. So for all their Communist manifesto, they are likely to be closer to India than China.