Feroz Qutabshahi May 9, 2008
#438 Posted by nkg on May 19, 2008 2:55:35 am
Re: # 421
B J Kumar...
Ans: What Jinnah had committed is based on the wishes of moslems. There are better ways to deal with that. The Best way forward was peaceful separation and abolish islamic practices in India. Gandhi is mostly responsible for the current state of doom in India. B V Patel was quite aware of it. Why should Indian Govt. allow madressah/mosque? Why should Govt. fund Urdoo education? Why should GOI waste money on Saudi Pilgrimage? Why there will be so many public holidays? The secularism, defined in Indian constitution is quite unique. Which drags India backwards to mediaval period.
ML had initiated the violence as strategy. Had Gandhi any counter measure for that?
B J Kumar...
Ans: What Jinnah had committed is based on the wishes of moslems. There are better ways to deal with that. The Best way forward was peaceful separation and abolish islamic practices in India. Gandhi is mostly responsible for the current state of doom in India. B V Patel was quite aware of it. Why should Indian Govt. allow madressah/mosque? Why should Govt. fund Urdoo education? Why should GOI waste money on Saudi Pilgrimage? Why there will be so many public holidays? The secularism, defined in Indian constitution is quite unique. Which drags India backwards to mediaval period.
ML had initiated the violence as strategy. Had Gandhi any counter measure for that?
#437 Posted by tahir on May 19, 2008 2:40:04 am
See how one crime leads to another! From 2006 to 2008, Mr. Yury has indeed come a long way: to being prosecuted for blasphemy (see #436)....
Moscow museum to exhibit Mohammed cartoons
Published: Feb. 7, 2006 at 7:49 AM
MOSCOW, Feb. 7 (UPI) -- A Moscow museum has announced it will exhibit the entire series of cartoons of Mohammed that have caused riots throughout the Islamic world.
Yury Samodurov, director of the Sakharov Museum and Public Center, said on Russian television that the center was ready to organize a public exhibition of the cartoons satirizing the founder of Islam that originally were published in a Danish newspaper, Pravda.ru reported Monday.
"We must show the whole world that Russia goes along with Europe, that the freedom of expression is much more important for us than the dogmas of religious fanatics," Samodurov said.
The exhibition reportedly will open in March. Lawyer Yury Shmidt has said he will invite French philosopher Andre Glucksmann and French novelist Michel Houellebecq to the opening ceremony to read lectures about the threat of Islamic fundamentalism.
In 2003 the Sakharov Museum outraged many Russian Orthodox believers with the art exhibit "Be Careful -- Religion," which many felt was insulting to their beliefs.
Moscow museum to exhibit Mohammed cartoons
Published: Feb. 7, 2006 at 7:49 AM
MOSCOW, Feb. 7 (UPI) -- A Moscow museum has announced it will exhibit the entire series of cartoons of Mohammed that have caused riots throughout the Islamic world.
Yury Samodurov, director of the Sakharov Museum and Public Center, said on Russian television that the center was ready to organize a public exhibition of the cartoons satirizing the founder of Islam that originally were published in a Danish newspaper, Pravda.ru reported Monday.
"We must show the whole world that Russia goes along with Europe, that the freedom of expression is much more important for us than the dogmas of religious fanatics," Samodurov said.
The exhibition reportedly will open in March. Lawyer Yury Shmidt has said he will invite French philosopher Andre Glucksmann and French novelist Michel Houellebecq to the opening ceremony to read lectures about the threat of Islamic fundamentalism.
In 2003 the Sakharov Museum outraged many Russian Orthodox believers with the art exhibit "Be Careful -- Religion," which many felt was insulting to their beliefs.
#436 Posted by tahir on May 19, 2008 2:34:39 am
Moscow Trial for Blasphemy
The director of Moscow’s Andrei Sakharov Museum (a human rights museum) has gone on trial because a recent display has outraged leaders of the Russian Orthodox Church. As a result, the exhibition has been labeled “blasphemous“ and Yuri Samodurov faces up to five years in prison because he intended the display to "incite hatred or enmity" and/or to impugn the dignity of a group based on their ethnicity and relation to religion.
The Scotsman reports:
Works by about 40 artists were featured in the museum’s exhibition called Caution, Religion, which included a Russian Orthodox-style icon with a hole instead of a head where visitors could stick their faces and picture themselves as the Almighty. There was also a Coca-Cola logo against the usual red background, but with Jesus’ face drawn next to it and the words, “This is my blood.” Four days after its opening last year, the exhibition was vandalised. The six perpetrators were detained and charged with hooliganism, but after a publicity campaign conducted by a Russian Orthodox priest, the charges were dropped. Russia’s lower house of parliament, the State Duma, petitioned the prosecutor-general’s office “to take the necessary measures” against the exhibition organisers. In addition to Samodurov, another museum employee and three artists also face charges. Anatoly Shabad, chairman of the Sakharov Museum's governing board, writes for The Moscow Times:
The exhibition "incited hatred and enmity" among a "group of persons" spurred on by Orthodox clergymen, who unleashed a pogrom in the museum, vandalizing the artworks with paint sprayers. ... The vandals' indignation was deemed to be righteous by the court. How else can you explain the fact that all six were acquitted, and the art works they had damaged were seized as material evidence in the hate crime case? [I]nvestigators in this case called in art experts and psychologists to determine whether or not the artworks exhibited at the Andrei Sakharov Museum had in fact fueled hatred. The experts relied on the power of a science that investigates the mysterious ways that art affects people through the unconscious mind and all sorts of tangential associations. Yet they concluded -- with a certainty that their colleagues in the exact sciences could only envy -- that the art works incited hatred because they combined the sacred and the profane. A classic case of reductio ad absurdum. The fact that this prosecution is being taken against those associated with a museum named for Andrei Sakharov is incredibly ironic, though I doubt that anyone involved on the government side appreciates it in the slightest. I wonder if this site would be considered blasphemous and an incitement to hatred? I wouldn’t want to travel to Russia to find out.
The director of Moscow’s Andrei Sakharov Museum (a human rights museum) has gone on trial because a recent display has outraged leaders of the Russian Orthodox Church. As a result, the exhibition has been labeled “blasphemous“ and Yuri Samodurov faces up to five years in prison because he intended the display to "incite hatred or enmity" and/or to impugn the dignity of a group based on their ethnicity and relation to religion.
The Scotsman reports:
Works by about 40 artists were featured in the museum’s exhibition called Caution, Religion, which included a Russian Orthodox-style icon with a hole instead of a head where visitors could stick their faces and picture themselves as the Almighty. There was also a Coca-Cola logo against the usual red background, but with Jesus’ face drawn next to it and the words, “This is my blood.” Four days after its opening last year, the exhibition was vandalised. The six perpetrators were detained and charged with hooliganism, but after a publicity campaign conducted by a Russian Orthodox priest, the charges were dropped. Russia’s lower house of parliament, the State Duma, petitioned the prosecutor-general’s office “to take the necessary measures” against the exhibition organisers. In addition to Samodurov, another museum employee and three artists also face charges. Anatoly Shabad, chairman of the Sakharov Museum's governing board, writes for The Moscow Times:
The exhibition "incited hatred and enmity" among a "group of persons" spurred on by Orthodox clergymen, who unleashed a pogrom in the museum, vandalizing the artworks with paint sprayers. ... The vandals' indignation was deemed to be righteous by the court. How else can you explain the fact that all six were acquitted, and the art works they had damaged were seized as material evidence in the hate crime case? [I]nvestigators in this case called in art experts and psychologists to determine whether or not the artworks exhibited at the Andrei Sakharov Museum had in fact fueled hatred. The experts relied on the power of a science that investigates the mysterious ways that art affects people through the unconscious mind and all sorts of tangential associations. Yet they concluded -- with a certainty that their colleagues in the exact sciences could only envy -- that the art works incited hatred because they combined the sacred and the profane. A classic case of reductio ad absurdum. The fact that this prosecution is being taken against those associated with a museum named for Andrei Sakharov is incredibly ironic, though I doubt that anyone involved on the government side appreciates it in the slightest. I wonder if this site would be considered blasphemous and an incitement to hatred? I wouldn’t want to travel to Russia to find out.
#433 Posted by zeemax on May 18, 2008 10:28:10 pm
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#432 Posted by akcheema on May 18, 2008 10:21:06 pm
Re: # 431; ana bibi
operating list; cut backs...usual crap
operating list; cut backs...usual crap
#428 Posted by akcheema on May 18, 2008 10:06:14 pm
Re: # 421; bjk
O Great One!
after all that spiel, could we now have the solution please?
O Great One!
after all that spiel, could we now have the solution please?
#427 Posted by ana on May 18, 2008 9:26:38 pm
arjun: believe it or not, nanna or nannhi is one of my "real" nicknames so thank you. even if you didn't mean it kindly. :)
#426 Posted by tahmed32 on May 18, 2008 9:05:42 pm
bjkumar sahib #425 Ok, sorry if i offended you. carry on with your usual..
#425 Posted by bjkumar on May 18, 2008 9:03:29 pm
Re: # 423
Dear Tauheed sahib,
Feel free to go screw yourself!
Dear Tauheed sahib,
Feel free to go screw yourself!
#424 Posted by bjkumar on May 18, 2008 9:02:31 pm
Arjun,
Jehova's witnesses are mostly well-meaning, no matter how asinine!
#423 Posted by tahmed32 on May 18, 2008 9:02:05 pm
#421 bjkumar: i think cheema sahib gave you good advice. you should take it instead of giving a lecture.
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