The Wrong Mix

Honestly why do so many -isms need the vehicle of socialism?i am forced to think that owing to the current status of political scenario and the existing peoples complexion of poverty and need which may obstruct the simple delivery of basic necessities. owing to the reigning -ism and its tussle with the -isms of the oppositional slant.then emerge the groups who are ready to give help to the people any -ism they maybe colours their social theme because these people are active socially and can actually reach the people. here i would like to mention another -ism which i feel has an erratic influence.I would not have got it from history textbooks.At least not with the easy read and pleasure of registering through an interesting article.Even if the textbooks carried a commentary on the subject.Am referring to the article ‘’Trouble in .....’’in Dawn Sun 8 Jun 08.So Bohemian culture did change ,alas.Got to see the new strains that developed, under the magnifying analysis of nfp.But no one can match the classic bohemian spirit et al.You wrote, ‘’those creative, eccentric and idealistic people who were ready to hit the depths of economic depravity and face establishmentarian and general social scorn for wwhat they believed in”. The first bohemians were the true bohemians,I say!!
Wealth has a habit since time immemorial, to buy talent to please itself. In so doing the talented has to conform to the demands and conditions provided by the wealthy, to work in.Not all artistes can conform to this rigidity and there are exceptions.Then comes the question of the posthumous phenomenon.when the rejected artist, thrown out, or even ‘’offed with his head’’, by the offended provider, after his death achieves a resounding and scintillating fame that livens up the galleries and museums till eternity.This fact,has rubbed off on the collective conscious of the peoples, nations and families of both the volatile artistes and their wealthy employers who sacked and rejected them at whim;and themselves are lying forgotten in ignominy, while the art/ists/istes achieve everlasting fame-immortalized.All this resulting in your term;’’clever economics’’.Now the art/ist/iste is indulged by those who patronise his work.The one who indulges gets two benefits i think.One, the creative genius’ work and the common man’s adoration for being such a generous supporter of the cause of art and their ideal artist/iste.If the artist/iste is a firebrand, gregarious personality the bigger the cycle of popularity.As the hypocritical attitudes of the members of the society are lashed out against; the poor folk can identify with the oppressed who are the victims of such hypocrites, and they cannot feel alone.
Now your question”,{...}” ‘’Was it actually capitalism getting hold of it to knock it out of its poverty embracing idealism?’’ my answer is that obviously, definitely seems to be the case.
Yes,where are these eccentric, creative people now?they are all over the world.Today’ s world accepts their entity more.They are wanted, they are followed and they are better understood.They need not belong to a small piece of land which may be the poor intellectual’ s utopia, the place where bohemians live.They may be scattered and the whole world belongs to them.

tahmed is a sorry excuse for a human being, every post of his proves that, just as his "claims" regarding me. You can't show a single lie or instance of hypocrisy in any ONE of my posts, I challenge you to do that , but the dimwitted, shallow pervert that you are, you'll never be able to do it.

tahmed writes "i have already explained to you why you are a liar and a hypocrite..."

Your "explanation" was I said Zinn knows me and later said I know Zinn so I am a liar! And because I was gracious enough to tell you that I taught at a university that received some funding from US Aid for its building projects and not for paying teacher's salaries and I tell the students facts about US BS around the globe, that makes me a hypocrite. You must be a fool to think you've proven your case, idiot...

tahmed writes "if anyone else in chowk has any interest in why i consider you to be a liar and a hypocrite, i would be glad to explain. but i am not going to waste time with you"

Another shallow excuse from a spineless pervert proving to us how immoral and dimwitted he is in his baseless namecalling...need i say more?

LEADENWINTER TU NAY BOHAT GAAAND MARAI HAI ISI OR MI SAY , JA BHAI ABB SUKKUR JAIL KO APNI GAAND DAI

masadi: and writing bakwas in bold does not make it non-bakwas.

masadi: i have already explained to you why you are a liar and a hypocrite. So, being a hypocrite, you keep acting as if i am just calling you names without any reason the way you do.

if anyone else in chowk has any interest in why i consider you to be a liar and a hypocrite, i would be glad to explain. but i am not going to waste time with you.

..(and you tahmed have a stellar record of doing just that).... i.e. proving yourself to be a shallow pervert (on chowk)

tahmed writes "#118 dont hide behind "chowk readers", you miserable hypocrite."

I'm not hiding anywhere you a-hole, when you make claims and accusitions you better substantiate them otherwise you prove yourself to be a shallow pervert every time (and you have a stellar record of doing just that)....

Re: # 117
Zeemax...
"Filtering is good. I hope Chowkstaff has finally found a system where it can be properly done to prevent this from turning into a hate-speech site. "

Ans: Hate speech against whom?
Arjun never shies away from reliable data, reason and statistics. I have never read any of his posts using filthy language.He resorts to personal vilification, unless and until somebody starts it...

Re: # 116
Ahmed...
Hilsa...
This is similar to carp in look. The size goes upto 2 feet (at most 2.5 feet). During rains, the schools of Hilsa swims upstream to the rivers in Ganga etc... The fish tastes good when it reaches more than 50 KM inside the river (from sea). This types of fish ( which can survive both in sea water and sweet water, tastes good when it spends substantial time in sweet water.

#118 dont hide behind "chowk readers", you miserable hypocrite.

tahmed writes "lying hypocrite masadi.

PS: The enough is all the response I need to provide to a hypocrite. "

Where is the lie and where is the hypocrisy, please elaborate for the benefit of chowk readers. Thank you for your kind time (you miserable peon of the West)

Filtering is good. I hope Chowkstaff has finally found a system where it can be properly done to prevent this from turning into a hate-speech site.

Banning is good too for multiple offenses. But then a ban must be permanent and no offender should be allowed back with a different nic. After all, how many IP headers can one change? Manner of speech alone would betray it, though manual scrutiny would be required for such offenders.

Congrats Chowkstaff. This is a welcome step.

Re: # 103
What is size of fish ? color before cooking and after ? Same fish in upper riches they say not good, read lower reaches from BD mostly sold to "rich" bengali of india, big export item heard. Long time ago when seas around karachi were not poisonous great surmai fish was very good. Some times big propfet call halava and dark fleshed same spacies saranga were plentiful now all in decline. All sea is empyied by efficient chinese, thai and oriental people take away and local fishermen get shaft as usual. They sell rights to these peoiple but local fisherman suffer. A sn ZIndus influx of fresh water and demise of trees along costal area big fish production is history.

Akram,

Thanx man. I too had fights with Arjun for his inhuman responses but the posts filtered by them is wrong. Anywhay, nobody is going pay a heed. Let them have ball.