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Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice

William Dalrymple May 21, 2008

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#364 Posted by BushraZulfiqar on August 1, 2009 9:17:21 am
I respect Fatima Bhutto and find the article a very touching account of her turbulent life but having said that I do feel that there is alot of undue hype that has been created around her. There are thousands if not millions of young Pakistani women who have lost their fathers or other loved ones in even more cruel ways, they never got justice. Rather most of them remain trapped in the viscious circle of injustice, violence and exploitation. I think we really need to focus on issues rather than personalities.
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#363 Posted by mahfari on October 16, 2008 5:22:19 pm
well written, i loved it.
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#362 Posted by mahfari on October 16, 2008 5:19:16 pm
well written, i loved it.
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#361 Posted by mahfari on October 16, 2008 5:19:05 pm
well written, i loved it.
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#360 Posted by SupersizeMe on June 24, 2008 8:42:12 am
Granted the family she comes from falls under a massive legacy and theres hardly any escaping it, but I really dont think she is worth all the hype.

Whatever I've read read of hers or any telly interviews just seem fruitless attempts and go round in circles and dont quite 'get nowhere'. Maybe its because she's young and has far to go? But 19 yr old Bilawal has proved more articulate and fiesty than her.
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#359 Posted by ejazharoon on May 28, 2008 11:41:25 am
Mr Dalrymple (Bill I suppose):

Thanks for another excellent article on Pakistan. As for Fatima it is sad that see has seen so much turmoil in her country and her family. I hope she breaks the Bhutto mold by learning the value of humility.

Ejaz
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#358 Posted by izuber on May 27, 2008 1:13:52 pm
Re: # 356
Cheema sahib your assertion about falsified claims is quite true there was a lot of wheeling and dealing that took place.
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#357 Posted by bjkumar on May 26, 2008 2:39:31 pm

On UP, Sadna quotes Rafiq Zakaria who spoke to A.V.Alexander, one of the members of the Cabinet Mission

[Jinnah stood his ground and asserted : 'Fear is the most potent weapon; I am sure the rulers in either state will be wise enough to conduct themselves properly. They will be afraid of retaliation against their co-religionists.']

The telling confession of the subcontinent’s first Islamic terrorist – and his worship of fear as a weapon!

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#356 Posted by akcheema on May 26, 2008 2:02:55 pm
Re: # 354; by zeemax
"I don't think that is true in case of Pakistan. All claims were thoroughly verified before formal transfers."

As I have said before, a big chunk of my family never made it across the border. However, that didn't stop a maternal grand-uncle to put in claims etc...he was already on the 'right' side of the border and well established as a businessman.....looked down upon for a short while but then all was normal....his kids inherited a fortune when he died and it wasn't all due to 'hard work'....I can quote several other examples from within and outside the family
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#355 Posted by dost_mittar on May 26, 2008 8:26:08 am
zee:

How could they be verified without a joint indo-pak mechanism to do so? As far as I am aware, no such mechanism was operationalised. But if there was such a mechanism and it worked, then I take back what I said.
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#354 Posted by zeemax on May 26, 2008 8:04:40 am
#353 Posted by dost_mittar,

I don't think that is true in case of Pakistan. All claims were thoroughly verified before formal transfers.
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#353 Posted by dost_mittar on May 26, 2008 7:54:09 am
zeemax#352:

"I have close family friends from Lucknow, who could only get their claim in Mianwali, though a substantial one, where no one speaks Urdu ... let alone the Lucknavi variety."

I dont know about the particular family but some of these families made bogus claims, as their properties in India were in the hands of their brothers left behind in India and were not evaquee properties. Since there was no mechanism for verifying claims, all claims were accepted as submitted. The same happened in India where some people submitted exaggerated claims and others did not.
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#352 Posted by zeemax on May 26, 2008 12:40:06 am
#332 Posted by dost_mittar,

It was a huge mess, but as per you say the Muslim immigrants got a better deal, though there were huge cultural shocks. I have close family friends from Lucknow, who could only get their claim in Mianwali, though a substantial one, where no one speaks Urdu ... let alone the Lucknavi variety.

They are still there though, They came to love Mianwali!
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#351 Posted by Sanatani on May 25, 2008 10:32:57 pm
Re: # 334

Madan Lal Pahwa to self,

Vikhane chande si Hindu Smaj marya hanin.

Wanted to show Hindu Samaj is not dead
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#350 Posted by Goldfinger on May 25, 2008 9:54:24 pm
Re: # 322 "This will never happen. There has never been one person in the history who changed the face of a country. That happens with a process and support from many others. If thats what you are waiting for, maybe you wanna Google 'Waiting for Godot'."

HP I think that could be a pathetic excuse for all the charlatans from the who's who of our rogues gallery that have ruled us so far...the least any great leader could do is to put his people on the right path, instead of devoting all his time and energy to loot, plunder and personal aggrandizement as one after the other all of our chosen and unchosen leaders have been doing so far. After they all get booted out one way or another, then they come out with the sort of lame excuses like "process" and "support" that you have put forth. After all who puts the processes into motion? And how much more support do they really need?
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#349 Posted by vengatramanan on May 25, 2008 9:51:27 pm
Or can it be rephrased as something like this. Reservation policy has managed to successfully obliterate the pride associated with calling oneself an upper caste Hindu...

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