William Dalrymple May 21, 2008
#316 Posted by Sanatani on May 24, 2008 6:52:04 am
Re: # 310
Because of vermin like you and your ilk. Self haters and back stabbers all.
Because Shri Godse thought strategically and not tactically.
Because the Sardar loved Gandhi more than he loved the country.
Because Harimau Iyer will never see beyond reservations and attempt Hindu Dharam Asmita.
Because Masanmuthu will not see beyond Harimau's casteist abuse as the rantings of an extremely marginalised and now oppressed caste and see OBC cruelty as an expression of Sanatan Dharam.
Because all hindus who otherwise behave as Bhangis have this strange notion of caste superiority.
Sanatani
Because of vermin like you and your ilk. Self haters and back stabbers all.
Because Shri Godse thought strategically and not tactically.
Because the Sardar loved Gandhi more than he loved the country.
Because Harimau Iyer will never see beyond reservations and attempt Hindu Dharam Asmita.
Because Masanmuthu will not see beyond Harimau's casteist abuse as the rantings of an extremely marginalised and now oppressed caste and see OBC cruelty as an expression of Sanatan Dharam.
Because all hindus who otherwise behave as Bhangis have this strange notion of caste superiority.
Sanatani
#315 Posted by Sanatani on May 24, 2008 6:46:08 am
Re: # 309
Ashutosh Lahiri and Dr Shyama Prasad Mukherjee and to about 50% Veer Savarkar, Dr Moonje and Raja Narendra Nath (Bhaiji). I would include Babaseaheb except he was opposed to Hindu Dharam and Not Hindu Samaj and the Sanatan Dharam.
Our gr8tst leaders came from East Begal now we get Jhothi Basu and Phuddudeb.
Sanatani
Ashutosh Lahiri and Dr Shyama Prasad Mukherjee and to about 50% Veer Savarkar, Dr Moonje and Raja Narendra Nath (Bhaiji). I would include Babaseaheb except he was opposed to Hindu Dharam and Not Hindu Samaj and the Sanatan Dharam.
Our gr8tst leaders came from East Begal now we get Jhothi Basu and Phuddudeb.
Sanatani
#314 Posted by Sanatani on May 24, 2008 6:45:59 am
Re: # 309
Ashutosh Lahiri and Dr Shyama Prasad Mukherjee and to about 50% Veer Savarkar, Dr Moonje and Raja Narendra Nath (Bhaiji). I would include Babaseaheb except he was opposed to Hindu Dharam and Not Hindu Samaj and the Sanatan Dharam.
Our gr8tst leaders came from East Begal now we get Jhothi Basu and Phuddudeb.
Sanatani
Ashutosh Lahiri and Dr Shyama Prasad Mukherjee and to about 50% Veer Savarkar, Dr Moonje and Raja Narendra Nath (Bhaiji). I would include Babaseaheb except he was opposed to Hindu Dharam and Not Hindu Samaj and the Sanatan Dharam.
Our gr8tst leaders came from East Begal now we get Jhothi Basu and Phuddudeb.
Sanatani
#313 Posted by Sanatani on May 24, 2008 6:42:18 am
Re: # 307
That is again a lie. Not J but his gang were clear that they wanted a Pak well clear of kaffirs and they achieved that. But it was your champion the Mahatma without an atma who ensured that the Hindus were left at the mercy of the Muslims in Pakistan after saying "Partition over my dead body"
The reason the Muslims stayed back was that there was no concerted effort to deport them the way it happened in Pak.
It was Hindu pullisamnity and Sikh ferocity that forced Muslai out of East Punjab.
Given a free hand the Sardars would have made a horrible example out of all other Muslims in India.
If we had a leader like Narendra Bhai then all this would not have happened.
What you are saying about his popularity is true buit in 1947 he was a failed messiah and that Godse's blunder in killing him allowed his acolytes to refurbish him as a sort of an avtar, more on that later.
But I shall give you a hint. The Hindus stoopid fkng belief in all religions being equal that applies to murderous political ideologies like chritianity and Islam. Notice the number of hindus who will go to pir ke mazaar and light candles in churches.
Sanatani
That is again a lie. Not J but his gang were clear that they wanted a Pak well clear of kaffirs and they achieved that. But it was your champion the Mahatma without an atma who ensured that the Hindus were left at the mercy of the Muslims in Pakistan after saying "Partition over my dead body"
The reason the Muslims stayed back was that there was no concerted effort to deport them the way it happened in Pak.
It was Hindu pullisamnity and Sikh ferocity that forced Muslai out of East Punjab.
Given a free hand the Sardars would have made a horrible example out of all other Muslims in India.
If we had a leader like Narendra Bhai then all this would not have happened.
What you are saying about his popularity is true buit in 1947 he was a failed messiah and that Godse's blunder in killing him allowed his acolytes to refurbish him as a sort of an avtar, more on that later.
But I shall give you a hint. The Hindus stoopid fkng belief in all religions being equal that applies to murderous political ideologies like chritianity and Islam. Notice the number of hindus who will go to pir ke mazaar and light candles in churches.
Sanatani
#312 Posted by zeemax on May 24, 2008 6:42:02 am
BJ,
Sanatani is right. Islam is totally different from what you perceive it to be, and a real problem for you. Fight it as Sanatani suggests. He is on the dot. Sanatani is my best friend and my best enemy because of this reason that he knows what he's up against. You don't!
Sanatani is right. Islam is totally different from what you perceive it to be, and a real problem for you. Fight it as Sanatani suggests. He is on the dot. Sanatani is my best friend and my best enemy because of this reason that he knows what he's up against. You don't!
#311 Posted by zeemax on May 24, 2008 6:36:56 am
#304 Posted by bjkumar,
I am not a Mullah. Guess you missed the posts where I said I'm not even a pious person to the farthest of your imaginations.
You're totally off-track BJ.
I am not a Mullah. Guess you missed the posts where I said I'm not even a pious person to the farthest of your imaginations.
You're totally off-track BJ.
#310 Posted by bjkumar on May 24, 2008 6:20:37 am
Re: # 308
[But could not muster the courage to take it to a logical conclusion.]
Why not?!
[But could not muster the courage to take it to a logical conclusion.]
Why not?!
#309 Posted by bjkumar on May 24, 2008 6:19:06 am
Re: # 308
[People like you are a curse to the Sanatan Dharam, Hindu Samaj and Bharat Mata.]
Sanatani my dear, can you name ANY Indian leaders whom you would consider as "not a curse to the Sanatan Dharam, Hindu Samaj and Bharat Mata"?!
[People like you are a curse to the Sanatan Dharam, Hindu Samaj and Bharat Mata.]
Sanatani my dear, can you name ANY Indian leaders whom you would consider as "not a curse to the Sanatan Dharam, Hindu Samaj and Bharat Mata"?!
#308 Posted by Sanatani on May 24, 2008 6:07:39 am
Re: # 217
You are an intelectually dishonest person.
That message of Mussalman apartheid is from the koran.
The problem is not Muslai it is Islam.
We are all better off with what happened due to Mr Jinnah But could not muster the courage to take it to a logical conclusion.
There is no bortherhood of muslai and non-muslai there are only momin and kaffir.
But you will never accpet it even when it stares you on the face. West Punjab, East Bengal, Sind, Baluchistan and NWFP.
Now we will lose Bengal and North East to Bangladesh and fkrs like you will say "It is all because of Hindu Communalism".
That is why we say we will lose not because we cannot defeat the muslai but because you will stab us in the back.
People like you are a curse to the Sanatan Dharam, Hindu Samaj and Bharat Mata.
I do not know about Shri J but I do hope you do rot in hell.
Sanatani
You are an intelectually dishonest person.
That message of Mussalman apartheid is from the koran.
The problem is not Muslai it is Islam.
We are all better off with what happened due to Mr Jinnah But could not muster the courage to take it to a logical conclusion.
There is no bortherhood of muslai and non-muslai there are only momin and kaffir.
But you will never accpet it even when it stares you on the face. West Punjab, East Bengal, Sind, Baluchistan and NWFP.
Now we will lose Bengal and North East to Bangladesh and fkrs like you will say "It is all because of Hindu Communalism".
That is why we say we will lose not because we cannot defeat the muslai but because you will stab us in the back.
People like you are a curse to the Sanatan Dharam, Hindu Samaj and Bharat Mata.
I do not know about Shri J but I do hope you do rot in hell.
Sanatani
#307 Posted by bjkumar on May 24, 2008 6:04:05 am
Re: # 303
Sanatani my dear,
Let's leave aside Gandhiji's unorthodox experiments for cures to physical ailments and his brahamcharya! Those were not the characteristics which made him popular among the masses.
Face it, my dear, it is not Gandhiji you are truly upset at. You are really upset at the Indian masses - the vast droves of ordinary Hindus - who connected with him and who followed him IN SPITE of his unorthodox views on side issues.
What is YOUR explanation for it, sir?! Do you have any special insight or knowledge which the average insaan did not have and YET they followed him nevertheless?!
And BTW, the vast majority of Indian Muslims preferred to stay put in India because they LIKED it there! It is called voting with your feet. It does not matter that many of their forefathers were misled (or junooned) into voting for Pakistan. It was a stupid thing to do and those same people, had they been alive, would now cry like a baby to look at the end results.
As far as the butchery and other hardships that the Partition-displaced people underwent (on both sides of the border) are concerned, the blame should be placed squarely upon the people who committed those atrocities and perhaps equally on the people who brought that event about!
Your Shri Jinnah being the chief culprit!
Sanatani my dear,
Let's leave aside Gandhiji's unorthodox experiments for cures to physical ailments and his brahamcharya! Those were not the characteristics which made him popular among the masses.
Face it, my dear, it is not Gandhiji you are truly upset at. You are really upset at the Indian masses - the vast droves of ordinary Hindus - who connected with him and who followed him IN SPITE of his unorthodox views on side issues.
What is YOUR explanation for it, sir?! Do you have any special insight or knowledge which the average insaan did not have and YET they followed him nevertheless?!
And BTW, the vast majority of Indian Muslims preferred to stay put in India because they LIKED it there! It is called voting with your feet. It does not matter that many of their forefathers were misled (or junooned) into voting for Pakistan. It was a stupid thing to do and those same people, had they been alive, would now cry like a baby to look at the end results.
As far as the butchery and other hardships that the Partition-displaced people underwent (on both sides of the border) are concerned, the blame should be placed squarely upon the people who committed those atrocities and perhaps equally on the people who brought that event about!
Your Shri Jinnah being the chief culprit!
#306 Posted by _arjun2 on May 24, 2008 6:02:21 am
#297 Posted by zeemax on May 24, 2008 3:32:02 am
These local Pakistanis are plate pissers.
you work for the SBP and yet call for the overthrow of the government and sharia rule...
These local Pakistanis are plate pissers.
you work for the SBP and yet call for the overthrow of the government and sharia rule...
#305 Posted by bjkumar on May 24, 2008 5:49:46 am
Correction in #304
Change Fatima Jinnah to Fatima BHUTTO!
Kambakhat Jinnah must be haunting me! Rats!
#304 Posted by bjkumar on May 24, 2008 5:40:38 am
Re: # 302
Au contraire, my dear Zee, it is you who is being devious!
In fact, the little sis detests mullahs and although she is innocent, perhaps a bit like Fatima Jinnah – she can never fall to their trickery and chaalbazi!
So forget any dreams of taking advantage of her innocence and of fooling and co-opting her! Stop pretending to be a well-wisher while in reality pursuing your very own (foolish) agenda.
It has been well-demonstrated, through countless posts from my little sis that – given half an opportunity – she would pluck (your) graying mullah beards all the way from their roots…she would pull so hard that not only the beard but anything else connected with it – perhaps the entrails as well as your (superficial) indicators of (false) masculinity – would come yanked out! And then she would happily offer the same to her pet canine for its morning repast.
Therefore, you ought to - for the sake of physical integrity alone - cease and desist!
Au contraire, my dear Zee, it is you who is being devious!
In fact, the little sis detests mullahs and although she is innocent, perhaps a bit like Fatima Jinnah – she can never fall to their trickery and chaalbazi!
So forget any dreams of taking advantage of her innocence and of fooling and co-opting her! Stop pretending to be a well-wisher while in reality pursuing your very own (foolish) agenda.
It has been well-demonstrated, through countless posts from my little sis that – given half an opportunity – she would pluck (your) graying mullah beards all the way from their roots…she would pull so hard that not only the beard but anything else connected with it – perhaps the entrails as well as your (superficial) indicators of (false) masculinity – would come yanked out! And then she would happily offer the same to her pet canine for its morning repast.
Therefore, you ought to - for the sake of physical integrity alone - cease and desist!
#303 Posted by Sanatani on May 24, 2008 5:32:28 am
Re: # 194
Abe Manto Chod de,
Yeh sab hamare desh ke Gandhu wadi choootieeya hai.
For the record:
1) The kasturba thing is true.
2) His children hated him he could not become father to his own children and became father of our nation.
3) He was a faddist having bizzare notions of what constitutes truth and he did experiments with the same like Shri CV Raman did with various lab apparati. The chief way of doing these experiments were with other people lives like if I want to learn surgery without the benefit of a teacher and use live human beings e.g. the hapless Hindus massacred in the Moplah riots.
4) That he was a racist and a caste bigot is well known. His championing of the obonoxious Tamil Brahmin practices was shocking to say the least.
5) What is not well known is his megalomania the need to be leader of all at any cost. His fight with Netaji is well known. The fact he let Bhagat Singh hang when he could have saved him. His assuming leadership of all Indians when there was a passionate opposition to him from a great majority cutting accross caste and religion.
6) There was no gr8 moral imperative in the 1st world war. Yet he behaved as a recruiting sargeant of the Brits in the same when men like Veer Savarkar, Lala Hardayal etc. braved odds to fight the brits in any way they could. In the second world war where there was gr8 moral imperative that of defeating National Socialism he ended up peddling bizzare theories like the Jews should voluntarily go to their deaths smiling.
If the above does not show a perverse mentality I would wonder what does. If your country suffers from following a peadophile murderer at least it is because you are brainwashed into believing him as an apostle of god, I wonder what our excuse is of following a man who not only made fanciful interpretaions of our holy books but insulted our heroes.
In short Gandhi was a bizzare sort of a human vermin whos succesfully peddled a lot of snake oil to a large sections of our society and these idiots have bought it as the elixir of eternal life.
You do not know the bizzareness of some more of his followers like Mashruwala and his anti Vanaspati movement. Yes that is anti Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil movement. Google it and see if links come out you will be shocked out of your wits as to what Gandhianism is about?
Long live Shri J ling Live partition tis a pity we could not send all our muslai on a one way ticket across the border.
Sanatani
Abe Manto Chod de,
Yeh sab hamare desh ke Gandhu wadi choootieeya hai.
For the record:
1) The kasturba thing is true.
2) His children hated him he could not become father to his own children and became father of our nation.
3) He was a faddist having bizzare notions of what constitutes truth and he did experiments with the same like Shri CV Raman did with various lab apparati. The chief way of doing these experiments were with other people lives like if I want to learn surgery without the benefit of a teacher and use live human beings e.g. the hapless Hindus massacred in the Moplah riots.
4) That he was a racist and a caste bigot is well known. His championing of the obonoxious Tamil Brahmin practices was shocking to say the least.
5) What is not well known is his megalomania the need to be leader of all at any cost. His fight with Netaji is well known. The fact he let Bhagat Singh hang when he could have saved him. His assuming leadership of all Indians when there was a passionate opposition to him from a great majority cutting accross caste and religion.
6) There was no gr8 moral imperative in the 1st world war. Yet he behaved as a recruiting sargeant of the Brits in the same when men like Veer Savarkar, Lala Hardayal etc. braved odds to fight the brits in any way they could. In the second world war where there was gr8 moral imperative that of defeating National Socialism he ended up peddling bizzare theories like the Jews should voluntarily go to their deaths smiling.
If the above does not show a perverse mentality I would wonder what does. If your country suffers from following a peadophile murderer at least it is because you are brainwashed into believing him as an apostle of god, I wonder what our excuse is of following a man who not only made fanciful interpretaions of our holy books but insulted our heroes.
In short Gandhi was a bizzare sort of a human vermin whos succesfully peddled a lot of snake oil to a large sections of our society and these idiots have bought it as the elixir of eternal life.
You do not know the bizzareness of some more of his followers like Mashruwala and his anti Vanaspati movement. Yes that is anti Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil movement. Google it and see if links come out you will be shocked out of your wits as to what Gandhianism is about?
Long live Shri J ling Live partition tis a pity we could not send all our muslai on a one way ticket across the border.
Sanatani
#302 Posted by zeemax on May 24, 2008 4:17:35 am
#301 Posted by bjkumar,
BJ, Sir, I think it's a little presumptive on your part that you think you can fool Zeena over this sis thing. She knows very well what you stand for. Your repeating this is adding insult to injury for Zeena, as I see it.
BJ, Sir, I think it's a little presumptive on your part that you think you can fool Zeena over this sis thing. She knows very well what you stand for. Your repeating this is adding insult to injury for Zeena, as I see it.
#301 Posted by bjkumar on May 24, 2008 4:03:03 am
Re: # 296
Pakistan3, the little sis has a heart of gold and when everything is said and done, that's all that remains and counts - not the superficial labels!
Pakistan3, the little sis has a heart of gold and when everything is said and done, that's all that remains and counts - not the superficial labels!
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