William Dalrymple May 21, 2008
#268 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 23, 2008 12:39:01 pm
masadi... you are by far the silliest creature on the face of the planet... I seriously think you should stop smoking whatever it is that keeps you in this perpetual state of self satisfied delusion.
#267 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2008 12:33:01 pm
Correction "hold meetings with the Q,"
as " hold meetings with the N
as " hold meetings with the N
#265 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2008 12:30:11 pm
Ras writes "Fatima,
some advice from this "Old Uncle" who just means well.
You are young and idealistic (like your father).
It is time you got married and had a family of your own.
Ten years from now you will be needed by your country
and its people. Till then stay out of the way and continue
your writing.
Your Aunt, in spite of your family problems was not
responsible for your father's death. We do not know about
the rest.
In the mean time I do not know what "William Uncle" is up
to, but I would advise caution in the near future in
your media exposure. Patience is a virtue!"
"Fatima, some advice from masadi who means well not only for you but for this nation.
You are young and idealistic which is a good thing for producing sincere action. Marriage and family will add complications both to your idealism as well as what you can achieve. Your country is a changed country now. In ten years due to American/Pakistan Army shenanigans, new thugs will be incorporated and mainstreamed so you need to take action NOW. Continue your writing of course, but try to push your way into the power structure of this country. Join the lawyer's movement and the other assorted boycotters and give the establishment hell. Call BS on the PPP leadership, hold meetings with the Q, get media exposure, and "jetset" around the globe to expose the Pakistan Army and US BS in this nation. The people will go with you and not with the thug who now occupies the leadership position of your grandfather's party by default. Regarding who murdered your father, you should know that people of greater power than BB and the thug did it but both of them sure did benefit from it, the establishmentized PPP was more convenient to the powers that be than one which might fall into the hands of an unpredictible maverick. Now, be smart like your grandfather and not dumb like your aunt, the country has changed, join the resistance and save ZAB's people's movement that is being f'kd by the thug sitting in its command post...Finally, if you do make it through, I will be available for a brief appointment to the foreign ministry just so long as I can tell the Americans on their face and on public TV to "go F themselves", then you can appoint someone else if you so please.
Sincerely,
masadi
some advice from this "Old Uncle" who just means well.
You are young and idealistic (like your father).
It is time you got married and had a family of your own.
Ten years from now you will be needed by your country
and its people. Till then stay out of the way and continue
your writing.
Your Aunt, in spite of your family problems was not
responsible for your father's death. We do not know about
the rest.
In the mean time I do not know what "William Uncle" is up
to, but I would advise caution in the near future in
your media exposure. Patience is a virtue!"
"Fatima, some advice from masadi who means well not only for you but for this nation.
You are young and idealistic which is a good thing for producing sincere action. Marriage and family will add complications both to your idealism as well as what you can achieve. Your country is a changed country now. In ten years due to American/Pakistan Army shenanigans, new thugs will be incorporated and mainstreamed so you need to take action NOW. Continue your writing of course, but try to push your way into the power structure of this country. Join the lawyer's movement and the other assorted boycotters and give the establishment hell. Call BS on the PPP leadership, hold meetings with the Q, get media exposure, and "jetset" around the globe to expose the Pakistan Army and US BS in this nation. The people will go with you and not with the thug who now occupies the leadership position of your grandfather's party by default. Regarding who murdered your father, you should know that people of greater power than BB and the thug did it but both of them sure did benefit from it, the establishmentized PPP was more convenient to the powers that be than one which might fall into the hands of an unpredictible maverick. Now, be smart like your grandfather and not dumb like your aunt, the country has changed, join the resistance and save ZAB's people's movement that is being f'kd by the thug sitting in its command post...Finally, if you do make it through, I will be available for a brief appointment to the foreign ministry just so long as I can tell the Americans on their face and on public TV to "go F themselves", then you can appoint someone else if you so please.
Sincerely,
masadi
#264 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 23, 2008 12:25:10 pm
Its amazing .. Pakistanis are probably the only people in the world who actually campaign against their own well-being.
Zardaris a criminal..in the same way the sun rises in the east... there's no doubts and no arguments, thus anyone who supports his re-election is a criminal by default without much ambiguity at all.
Zardaris a criminal..in the same way the sun rises in the east... there's no doubts and no arguments, thus anyone who supports his re-election is a criminal by default without much ambiguity at all.
#263 Posted by FakirIppi on May 23, 2008 12:01:46 pm
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#262 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 23, 2008 11:43:27 am
Theres only a few of them left .. the most dangerous being Zardari and his whelp... can some patriot please put them out of their misery..
#261 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2008 11:28:57 am
Re: # 260
Masadi miaN, have you taken into account the possibility that Manto LIKES you - hence including your name?!!
Masadi miaN, have you taken into account the possibility that Manto LIKES you - hence including your name?!!
#260 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2008 11:25:10 am
Goldfinger writes " but no one came out on the streets or anything, particularly the so-called jiyalas of the ilk of Masadi "
Fool, there were violent protests after the Bhutto hanging, in Kashmir and in the mainland. Just because you happened to be a 20 year old chump and too blind to read the news or follow the facts, doesn't mean no protests occurred. Further I certainly am not a "jiyala". I write facts about the man which you counter with "he jetsetted around the globe" as rebuttal, needless to say, you're a certified fool...
Manto writes in 211 "Ok ladies and gentlemen... I am done here. I will leave it to Masadis and arjuns etc to fight it out for world domination on the internet."
Now was there any reason for including my name in this bs comment when I have not discussed a single thing with him on this thread. What does this tell you all: it tells the most mediocre of minds that this fool is afraid of my arguments against MAJ which he hasn't been able to counter to-date.
To his Ciao, i'd like to say, "good riddance to bad rubbish"...
Fool, there were violent protests after the Bhutto hanging, in Kashmir and in the mainland. Just because you happened to be a 20 year old chump and too blind to read the news or follow the facts, doesn't mean no protests occurred. Further I certainly am not a "jiyala". I write facts about the man which you counter with "he jetsetted around the globe" as rebuttal, needless to say, you're a certified fool...
Manto writes in 211 "Ok ladies and gentlemen... I am done here. I will leave it to Masadis and arjuns etc to fight it out for world domination on the internet."
Now was there any reason for including my name in this bs comment when I have not discussed a single thing with him on this thread. What does this tell you all: it tells the most mediocre of minds that this fool is afraid of my arguments against MAJ which he hasn't been able to counter to-date.
To his Ciao, i'd like to say, "good riddance to bad rubbish"...
#259 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2008 8:59:52 am
Re: # 257
Ras sahib, your advice to Ms. Fatima Bhutto is well intentioned, of course, but most likely, she is about as likely to see it as Mr. Dalrymple is likely to come here and interact. :((
However, it is sensible advice. Politics is dirty business. Its rough-and-tumble world is no place for young idealists which all poets (irrespective of age) are.
There is no reason to cast doubts on Mr. Dalrymple, though. He is not a player among this cast of characters. Come to think of it, even Fatima is an "outsider" - directly affected though she is.
Your advice to her to get married and have a family of her own is rather patronizing, though.
Ras sahib, your advice to Ms. Fatima Bhutto is well intentioned, of course, but most likely, she is about as likely to see it as Mr. Dalrymple is likely to come here and interact. :((
However, it is sensible advice. Politics is dirty business. Its rough-and-tumble world is no place for young idealists which all poets (irrespective of age) are.
There is no reason to cast doubts on Mr. Dalrymple, though. He is not a player among this cast of characters. Come to think of it, even Fatima is an "outsider" - directly affected though she is.
Your advice to her to get married and have a family of her own is rather patronizing, though.
#258 Posted by Mr.India on May 23, 2008 8:54:00 am
Has there been in Jinnah or Bhutoo family female named Ayesha?Does it say somthing ?
#257 Posted by Ras on May 23, 2008 8:48:22 am
Fatima,
some advice from this "Old Uncle" who just means well.
You are young and idealistic (like your father).
It is time you got married and had a family of your own.
Ten years from now you will be needed by your country
and its people. Till then stay out of the way and continue
your writing.
Your Aunt, in spite of your family problems was not
responsible for your father's death. We do not know about
the rest.
In the mean time I do not know what "William Uncle" is up
to, but I would advise caution in the near future in
your media exposure. Patience is a virtue!
#256 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2008 8:47:45 am
...and Manto miaN...
Your "friend" needs some English lessons because his(?) spelling is atrocious!
#255 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2008 8:40:51 am
Re: # 243
[but as an old Indian friend wrote to me a few days ago:]
Manto miaN, be careful. A man is known by the books he reads and thhe friends he keeps. We already know you read Arthur Kemp, perhaps you have the wrong kind of (Indian) friends, too. :((
[but as an old Indian friend wrote to me a few days ago:]
Manto miaN, be careful. A man is known by the books he reads and thhe friends he keeps. We already know you read Arthur Kemp, perhaps you have the wrong kind of (Indian) friends, too. :((
#254 Posted by masanamuthu on May 23, 2008 8:38:18 am
If it will help you, feel free to think Gandhi was treated like Queen Victoria in all the prisons he went, starting from 1908. And all the 2000+ days he spent in prison was like staying in a five star hotel.
All those days he was scheming to prevent Jinnah from being anointed as the only true statesman and visionary of South Asia..
:-)
All those days he was scheming to prevent Jinnah from being anointed as the only true statesman and visionary of South Asia..
:-)
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