Murad A Baig May 26, 2008
#351 Posted by izuber on June 3, 2008 11:46:31 am
Al-Baqara:2:286 God does not burden any human being with more than he is well able to bear: in his favour shall be whatever good he does, and against him whatever evil he does. O our Sustainer! Take us not to task if we forget or unwittingly do wrong! "O our Sustainer! Lay not upon us a burden such as Thou didst lay upon those who lived before us! [278] O our Sustainer! Make us not bear burdens which we have no strength to bear! "And efface Thou our sins, and grant us forgiveness, and bestow Thy mercy upon us! Thou art our Lord Supreme: succor us, then, against people who deny the truth!"
#350 Posted by Eklavya on June 3, 2008 10:51:35 am
Laddu, hope you are not saying all that in anger but out of conviction, and a sense of justice, fairplay, and love.
We must act toward others as others act toward us, as honestly and fairly as possible. To act toward others as we WANT them to act toward us is totally wrong and immoral since it implies others must share our value systems, and value systems are rarely shared.
Later, laddu.
We must act toward others as others act toward us, as honestly and fairly as possible. To act toward others as we WANT them to act toward us is totally wrong and immoral since it implies others must share our value systems, and value systems are rarely shared.
Later, laddu.
#349 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 10:37:14 am
Re: # 348
Hey, i am not expecting any one to change their behaviour.
I am going to behave with them in the manner they expect by their own beliefs.
I am going to JUDGE BY THEIR STANDARDS - as you always say!!
So, Murad you try to commit blasphemy of my "beliefs" and other elements of hindu "faith " then I am going to use YOUR Standards of blasphemy to act against you!!
Hey, i am not expecting any one to change their behaviour.
I am going to behave with them in the manner they expect by their own beliefs.
I am going to JUDGE BY THEIR STANDARDS - as you always say!!
So, Murad you try to commit blasphemy of my "beliefs" and other elements of hindu "faith " then I am going to use YOUR Standards of blasphemy to act against you!!
#348 Posted by Eklavya on June 3, 2008 10:28:33 am
LOL, you already have my pity so long as you keep expecting others to change their behaviors and beliefs to suit your convenience :)
Why try for respect? But seriously, you have scared me in your imaginary world, and now you have my imginary respect.
Why try for respect? But seriously, you have scared me in your imaginary world, and now you have my imginary respect.
#347 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 10:27:20 am
Re: # 345
"He is carrying forward a proud tradition, centuries and centuries old.
It is totally immaterial if any (non-commie) Hindu can agree with him or not. "
His "proud" Jehadic and dawah-tradition would be treated in the manner that would befit his own momeen traditions concerning blasphemy!!
"He is carrying forward a proud tradition, centuries and centuries old.
It is totally immaterial if any (non-commie) Hindu can agree with him or not. "
His "proud" Jehadic and dawah-tradition would be treated in the manner that would befit his own momeen traditions concerning blasphemy!!
#346 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 10:22:57 am
"Bhai, you canNOT request respect."
I am just going to give you the dose that you recommend!!
I am going to "demand" respect!!
I am just going to give you the dose that you recommend!!
I am going to "demand" respect!!
#345 Posted by Eklavya on June 3, 2008 10:19:52 am
And what precisely would you gain, laddu, by giving your imaginary 'kick on my arse?'
Bhai, you canNOT request respect.
Murad does not request anything. He writes. He sells his books to commies and ignorant Hindus in India.
He is carrying forward a proud tradition, centuries and centuries old.
It is totally immaterial if any (non-commie) Hindu can agree with him or not.
Bhai, you canNOT request respect.
Murad does not request anything. He writes. He sells his books to commies and ignorant Hindus in India.
He is carrying forward a proud tradition, centuries and centuries old.
It is totally immaterial if any (non-commie) Hindu can agree with him or not.
#344 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 10:16:35 am
Murad,
I am certainly going to do a follow up of your blasphemic mis-constructions in the real world.
I am certainly going to do a follow up of your blasphemic mis-constructions in the real world.
#343 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 10:12:52 am
Re: # 342
Listen you stupid . I just apply the universal golden rule and treat you in the way you see the world with your evil mind frame!!
For some one who believes that might-is-right only needs a kick on his arse to understand it's implications.
Now, you can go and laugh at your impending fate!!
Listen you stupid . I just apply the universal golden rule and treat you in the way you see the world with your evil mind frame!!
For some one who believes that might-is-right only needs a kick on his arse to understand it's implications.
Now, you can go and laugh at your impending fate!!
#342 Posted by Eklavya on June 3, 2008 10:09:25 am
What, you would have tried to hit me, kill me? I doubt Gandhites can do that much.
For that one needs a bit of self-respect. A person who spends his life 'requesting' respect for his beliefs, can he do what you now threaten to do, my brother? :)
LOL
For that one needs a bit of self-respect. A person who spends his life 'requesting' respect for his beliefs, can he do what you now threaten to do, my brother? :)
LOL
#341 Posted by sattar2 on June 3, 2008 10:08:04 am
Kaal (#320),
All along you have insisted that logic is sacrilegious to faith; but now you are back to logic. Sorry, I didn’t mean to make a heretic out of you. You are trying too hard ... and your half-backed theories are making Urstruly look like a genius.
Moving on to #301 …
You are assuming that one book can have only one prophet. That is, Quran can have only one prophet (namely, Muhammad, pbuh), and no more. Once you question your assumption, you’ll realize you are on the wrong track. Once again, I have to be the one to educate you (lordi, lordi …)
In essence, your underlying assumption is speculative, incorrect, and negated by Quran and reason. Other than that you may have a point (grin).
All along you have insisted that logic is sacrilegious to faith; but now you are back to logic. Sorry, I didn’t mean to make a heretic out of you. You are trying too hard ... and your half-backed theories are making Urstruly look like a genius.
Moving on to #301 …
You are assuming that one book can have only one prophet. That is, Quran can have only one prophet (namely, Muhammad, pbuh), and no more. Once you question your assumption, you’ll realize you are on the wrong track. Once again, I have to be the one to educate you (lordi, lordi …)
In essence, your underlying assumption is speculative, incorrect, and negated by Quran and reason. Other than that you may have a point (grin).
#340 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 10:05:16 am
Re: # 339
Yes, in this anonymous cyber world it is!!
Were we in the real world I am sure you would have got the answer!!
Yes, in this anonymous cyber world it is!!
Were we in the real world I am sure you would have got the answer!!
#339 Posted by Eklavya on June 3, 2008 10:03:04 am
laddu bhai, if I may so, your 'respect' or its absence is meaningless.
#338 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 9:48:46 am
Re: # 336
"momeen goons" is so distasteful. You are merely referring to brave and committed people who carried forward an ideology they fully believed in, and in their own eyes, spread Light around the globe, for the benefit of mankind."
For the members of this cult of death- their jehadis assassins are "committed" to their cult of death nevertheless that DOES NOT turn them into noble people. Ravana had a "committed" army of rakshas - yet they all were evil!!
"momeen goons" is so distasteful. You are merely referring to brave and committed people who carried forward an ideology they fully believed in, and in their own eyes, spread Light around the globe, for the benefit of mankind."
For the members of this cult of death- their jehadis assassins are "committed" to their cult of death nevertheless that DOES NOT turn them into noble people. Ravana had a "committed" army of rakshas - yet they all were evil!!
#337 Posted by laddu on June 3, 2008 9:44:29 am
Re: # 336
This is the most distasteful and adharmic answer that can only come from momeen goons who ONLY believe that the 'truth' of an argument derives from the strength of the sword of the person shouting on the top of his voice - "Allahu...".
I carry NO respect for some one for whom might-is-right.
He only deserves to be annihilated this instant in order to show him who is right!!
This is the most distasteful and adharmic answer that can only come from momeen goons who ONLY believe that the 'truth' of an argument derives from the strength of the sword of the person shouting on the top of his voice - "Allahu...".
I carry NO respect for some one for whom might-is-right.
He only deserves to be annihilated this instant in order to show him who is right!!
#336 Posted by Eklavya on June 3, 2008 9:37:35 am
Laddu, the clear answer to all your questions is 'yes.'
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"momeen goons" is so distasteful. You are merely refering to brave and committed people who carried forward an ideology they fully believed in, and in their own eyes, spread Light around the globe, for the benefit of mankind.
But losers may call them whatever they like.
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These are "genuine" dis-beliefs and misconstrual by the momeens fed on dawah and evangelist literature who only aim at disparaging other faiths so that their evil muslim supremacist propaganda can be spread."
You are simply losing it, laddu.
To any believer of Islam, Hinduism must appear as the Devil's religion and vice versa (unless we re-cast the other as a pale shadow of ourselves), but to speak of one or the other as such in some objective sense (without first agreeing on what that objective sense is) is foolish.
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Laddu, to lose is to be wrong, and at fault.
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Yes, DM ji, that is true. They should.
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"momeen goons" is so distasteful. You are merely refering to brave and committed people who carried forward an ideology they fully believed in, and in their own eyes, spread Light around the globe, for the benefit of mankind.
But losers may call them whatever they like.
________________
These are "genuine" dis-beliefs and misconstrual by the momeens fed on dawah and evangelist literature who only aim at disparaging other faiths so that their evil muslim supremacist propaganda can be spread."
You are simply losing it, laddu.
To any believer of Islam, Hinduism must appear as the Devil's religion and vice versa (unless we re-cast the other as a pale shadow of ourselves), but to speak of one or the other as such in some objective sense (without first agreeing on what that objective sense is) is foolish.
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Laddu, to lose is to be wrong, and at fault.
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Yes, DM ji, that is true. They should.
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