Ahmad Bilal June 8, 2008
#58 Posted by majumdar on June 10, 2008 11:11:10 pm
Ana,
(You all don't believe us when we talk about Pakistan)
We do. When you say bad things about Pakistan (tongue wala icon)
Regards
(You all don't believe us when we talk about Pakistan)
We do. When you say bad things about Pakistan (tongue wala icon)
Regards
#57 Posted by alice_in_spudland on June 10, 2008 11:08:35 pm
Maj
Not a bad idea. I am sure Kaal bhai would do a good job
Now who's pulling whose leg?!!! *rolling eyes ikaan*
In all seriousness, there is more to the Palestinian struggle than the jehad, Hamas, and the PLO. And if that idiot Laddu, or anyone else really cared about Palestine beyond what some mullahs are saying about it, they would not ask Pakistanis like HP to educate them on Palestine. You all don't believe us when we talk about Pakistan, so what would be the effin' point?
Some of you Indians claim to know much more than us Pakistanis, so go ahead, enlighten us. Some of your words have been beacons so far. . . .
Not a bad idea. I am sure Kaal bhai would do a good job
Now who's pulling whose leg?!!! *rolling eyes ikaan*
In all seriousness, there is more to the Palestinian struggle than the jehad, Hamas, and the PLO. And if that idiot Laddu, or anyone else really cared about Palestine beyond what some mullahs are saying about it, they would not ask Pakistanis like HP to educate them on Palestine. You all don't believe us when we talk about Pakistan, so what would be the effin' point?
Some of you Indians claim to know much more than us Pakistanis, so go ahead, enlighten us. Some of your words have been beacons so far. . . .
#56 Posted by majumdar on June 10, 2008 10:58:13 pm
Ana,
(why don't you ask your good friend eklavya to do so)
Not a bad idea. I am sure Kaal bhai would do a good job.
(as do you.)
Now, you're pulling my leg!!!
Regards
(why don't you ask your good friend eklavya to do so)
Not a bad idea. I am sure Kaal bhai would do a good job.
(as do you.)
Now, you're pulling my leg!!!
Regards
#55 Posted by alice_in_spudland on June 10, 2008 10:52:31 pm
majumdar:
why don't you ask your good friend eklavya to do so, since he seems to make such neat precis about everything else? as do you.
it is not easy to make such a neat precis about what is going on in Palestine. They are still under occupation. They have been fighting that occupation since 1948. It isn't just about the Muslims. Homes were taken away from Palestinian Christians as well. It is not enough to say that this is about "real estate." History is not that simple and "precis" , and as Sting sings, it will teach us nothing. It has obviously taught some here nothing at all.
why don't you ask your good friend eklavya to do so, since he seems to make such neat precis about everything else? as do you.
it is not easy to make such a neat precis about what is going on in Palestine. They are still under occupation. They have been fighting that occupation since 1948. It isn't just about the Muslims. Homes were taken away from Palestinian Christians as well. It is not enough to say that this is about "real estate." History is not that simple and "precis" , and as Sting sings, it will teach us nothing. It has obviously taught some here nothing at all.
#54 Posted by majumdar on June 10, 2008 10:34:02 pm
Ana,
Re: 53
But it would be nice if some learned chowkie could read the whole stuff and make a neat precis for the rest of us folks, no?
Regards
Re: 53
But it would be nice if some learned chowkie could read the whole stuff and make a neat precis for the rest of us folks, no?
Regards
#53 Posted by alice_in_spudland on June 10, 2008 9:53:39 pm
Perhaps reading what Edward Said, Hanan Ashrawi, Mahmoud Darwish among Palestinians would be more educational than learning about Palestine from informed Pakistanis.
Then of course, one has to give a damn about Palestine and the Palestinians, which some pathetic ignoramus obviously doesn't.
Don't use the Palestinians to make a point about Pakistan.
Then of course, one has to give a damn about Palestine and the Palestinians, which some pathetic ignoramus obviously doesn't.
Don't use the Palestinians to make a point about Pakistan.
#52 Posted by laddu on June 10, 2008 9:26:33 pm
Sindhu ji,
Perhaps a few lines summarizing the current Palestinian problem from informed Pakistanis would be enlightening !!!
Perhaps a few lines summarizing the current Palestinian problem from informed Pakistanis would be enlightening !!!
#51 Posted by majumdar on June 10, 2008 9:20:34 pm
Zee sahib,
Geo TV report suggests it was Afghan soldiers, not NATO planes.
Regards
Geo TV report suggests it was Afghan soldiers, not NATO planes.
Regards
#50 Posted by zeemax on June 10, 2008 8:27:38 pm
#25 Posted by ahmedmadani,
Let's see what Pakistan's response would be now. Nato planes just bombed a Pakistani military checkpost in Mohmand Agency and killed 13 soldiers including a Major.
Let's see what Pakistan's response would be now. Nato planes just bombed a Pakistani military checkpost in Mohmand Agency and killed 13 soldiers including a Major.
#49 Posted by VRV on June 10, 2008 6:06:26 pm
eka,
U have a strange style putting ur points across. I got it ;)
Masood wanted to get relief from Tihar jail whereas Jamia Hafza cleric preferred martyrdom. Shahada is the MOST important covenant of true Muslims.
I always get an impression u r one. Kyon?
U have a strange style putting ur points across. I got it ;)
Masood wanted to get relief from Tihar jail whereas Jamia Hafza cleric preferred martyrdom. Shahada is the MOST important covenant of true Muslims.
I always get an impression u r one. Kyon?
#48 Posted by Eklavya on June 10, 2008 5:25:52 pm
vrv, one doesn't have to sacrifice one's life to be able to make huge contributions to one's nation and to the world.
Here is an European women I admire. Note also the (global) connection to politics on the subcontinent. Her martyred ex-husband hastened the departure of one of India's allies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/28/world/europe/28terror.html?fta=y&am p;am p;pagewanted=print
Here is an European women I admire. Note also the (global) connection to politics on the subcontinent. Her martyred ex-husband hastened the departure of one of India's allies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/28/world/europe/28terror.html?fta=y&am p;am p;pagewanted=print
#47 Posted by VRV on June 10, 2008 4:36:29 pm
Masood Azhar and ISI i.e establishment are bosom buddies. Secondly, Masood was a confirmed coward. He wont sacrifice his life for Islam.
The fears of the author are far fetched (II Jamia Hafsa) but the Islamisation of Pakistan is a well documented fact.
The fears of the author are far fetched (II Jamia Hafsa) but the Islamisation of Pakistan is a well documented fact.
#46 Posted by alice_in_spudland on June 10, 2008 4:27:00 pm
No, there are actually no great surprises in life. some people truly are thaaaat ignorant. *rolling eyes ikaan*
#45 Posted by NangaPir on June 10, 2008 2:33:16 pm
#42 Posted by laddu
If Palestinian problem is a real-estate problem then why not guys sit and resolve it amicably.....
I have never seen such an imbecile statement in my life. Yes there are surprises in life.
If Palestinian problem is a real-estate problem then why not guys sit and resolve it amicably.....
I have never seen such an imbecile statement in my life. Yes there are surprises in life.
#44 Posted by HP on June 10, 2008 11:54:28 am
#42 Posted by laddu
"If Palestinian problem is a real-estate problem then why not guys sit and resolve it amicably -"
Your grasp on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and related Middle East diplomatic concerns is so poor that I think you would need to spend the rest of your life in a library just to get to a state of neutral ignorance. Looking at the uninformed comments I literally pity you.
Without History we really have no guide. The past, like the present, is complicated.
"If Palestinian problem is a real-estate problem then why not guys sit and resolve it amicably -"
Your grasp on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and related Middle East diplomatic concerns is so poor that I think you would need to spend the rest of your life in a library just to get to a state of neutral ignorance. Looking at the uninformed comments I literally pity you.
Without History we really have no guide. The past, like the present, is complicated.
#43 Posted by Charlie on June 10, 2008 8:22:22 am
A majority of Pakistani people likes Islam in its shape as it is exercised in that region now a days... That's why nobody stops Jamia Hafsa or Lal masjids to grow and prosper...
After realizing that my ideal about pakistani society is not the popular one, I feel that it is better not to resist the trend. For the sake of team work, it is better to accept religionization of the society...Atleast this way, we will have atleast a sense of direction...
And obviously, I have a personal option to move out of it... And I have already done that...
After realizing that my ideal about pakistani society is not the popular one, I feel that it is better not to resist the trend. For the sake of team work, it is better to accept religionization of the society...Atleast this way, we will have atleast a sense of direction...
And obviously, I have a personal option to move out of it... And I have already done that...
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