Murad A Baig June 16, 2008
#868 Posted by laddu on June 30, 2008 9:25:44 am
tahir,
Listen carefully what I say again-
Reject Mohammad in order to reach Allah.
Mohammad raised himself to the status of Allah and in order to reach Allah one has to destroy that satan personified in Mohammad!!!
Listen carefully what I say again-
Reject Mohammad in order to reach Allah.
Mohammad raised himself to the status of Allah and in order to reach Allah one has to destroy that satan personified in Mohammad!!!
#867 Posted by laddu on June 30, 2008 9:23:32 am
Re: # 865
"I feel one needs to live the ism for extended period of time intensely before one publishes anything on that ism. "
Pappu,
Frankly I am impressed with your experiments with other religions.
I also studied muslims and Quran very carefully and found that the real problem is not a muslim but Islam.
The ONLY satanic entity that stands between a momeen and Alah is Mohammad.
Mohammad is NOT the solution to the problem - he is the problem
Mohammad is the satan personified who stands between Allah and his created.
Muslims have to reject Mohammad in order to reach Allah!!!
"I feel one needs to live the ism for extended period of time intensely before one publishes anything on that ism. "
Pappu,
Frankly I am impressed with your experiments with other religions.
I also studied muslims and Quran very carefully and found that the real problem is not a muslim but Islam.
The ONLY satanic entity that stands between a momeen and Alah is Mohammad.
Mohammad is NOT the solution to the problem - he is the problem
Mohammad is the satan personified who stands between Allah and his created.
Muslims have to reject Mohammad in order to reach Allah!!!
#866 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 9:13:16 am
Muradbhai,
I will assume you are preparing your answers. But answers from heart dont need preparation. Truth is dynamic, balance happens when one is fast. So speak up! Nothing to lose but fear, ignorance and ego.
I will assume you are preparing your answers. But answers from heart dont need preparation. Truth is dynamic, balance happens when one is fast. So speak up! Nothing to lose but fear, ignorance and ego.
#865 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 9:09:38 am
Ladduji
Would you please give a good shape to these questions and create a good list of qualifications one need to possess before any one writes on Sanatan Dharma or Hinduism. You are much better writer and have lot of knowledge on Sanatan Dharma / Hinduism.
I feel one needs to live the ism for extended period of time intensely before one publishes anything on that ism. Same is true for sciences, medicine, engineering and even Maths. we ned to have IITs for social sciences otherwise any tom Adbullah and Hari might start propagating his theories/opinions about the ism. I shoud not be allowed to publish my opinions on Islam, at bestshould be allowed to hold mirror in front of believers.
We would know a lot about you if you answer following:
1. Did you or your wife decide to change her name to a Islamic one? Does she carry your last name? We know you are not carrying her last name.
2. What are the names of your kids? Which schools do they attend to. Do they attend Hindi medium schools where Indian culture is taught? Indian culture means Hindustani Music, Dances such as Bharat Natyam etc. Are they learning Sanskrit? Taken some effort to learn Vedic Maths? Do they regualrly visit Indian temples and historical places, even pilgrimage places suchas Prayag, Nasik (Trayambekeshwar), Rameshwar etc.? Do they participate in local Ganesh Puja, Durga Puja and ShivJayanti? Are they passionate about stopping pollution of Ganga? Can they sing Kabirs dohes?
Answers to these questons will give us an idea about where you come from. We do not want yet another foreigner tell us who we are when his own community is way below us in most of the indices of human development.
No malice intended!
Would you please give a good shape to these questions and create a good list of qualifications one need to possess before any one writes on Sanatan Dharma or Hinduism. You are much better writer and have lot of knowledge on Sanatan Dharma / Hinduism.
I feel one needs to live the ism for extended period of time intensely before one publishes anything on that ism. Same is true for sciences, medicine, engineering and even Maths. we ned to have IITs for social sciences otherwise any tom Adbullah and Hari might start propagating his theories/opinions about the ism. I shoud not be allowed to publish my opinions on Islam, at bestshould be allowed to hold mirror in front of believers.
We would know a lot about you if you answer following:
1. Did you or your wife decide to change her name to a Islamic one? Does she carry your last name? We know you are not carrying her last name.
2. What are the names of your kids? Which schools do they attend to. Do they attend Hindi medium schools where Indian culture is taught? Indian culture means Hindustani Music, Dances such as Bharat Natyam etc. Are they learning Sanskrit? Taken some effort to learn Vedic Maths? Do they regualrly visit Indian temples and historical places, even pilgrimage places suchas Prayag, Nasik (Trayambekeshwar), Rameshwar etc.? Do they participate in local Ganesh Puja, Durga Puja and ShivJayanti? Are they passionate about stopping pollution of Ganga? Can they sing Kabirs dohes?
Answers to these questons will give us an idea about where you come from. We do not want yet another foreigner tell us who we are when his own community is way below us in most of the indices of human development.
No malice intended!
#864 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 8:30:00 am
Hello Muradbhai,
"You are being very personal but my wife remains a devout Hindu and my children went to public schools in India."
Muradbhai,
Does she take your last name? Obviously you are not taking her last name. Are the names of your kids Arabic/Persian or Indic?
Did you study Sanskrit to learn about Sanatan Dharma?
Did you make your kids go to temples, ashrams of different swamis and gurus to learn the faith of your wife? BTW my kids went to church and Dhamma Sthal twice a month when till few years back. I was also Bahai follower in 97-98 because of a Greek female friend. Hope this opens you up!
Tahir Miyan, I also did Namaz five times for a year with good Muslim friend for a year, more to have discipline than anything else. It was more to take stock of my thoughts and my reactions during two Namaz. So, my apologies are not fake! Please do not respond! Bandwidth is precious and I am finely tuned to Baig Ji
"You are being very personal but my wife remains a devout Hindu and my children went to public schools in India."
Muradbhai,
Does she take your last name? Obviously you are not taking her last name. Are the names of your kids Arabic/Persian or Indic?
Did you study Sanskrit to learn about Sanatan Dharma?
Did you make your kids go to temples, ashrams of different swamis and gurus to learn the faith of your wife? BTW my kids went to church and Dhamma Sthal twice a month when till few years back. I was also Bahai follower in 97-98 because of a Greek female friend. Hope this opens you up!
Tahir Miyan, I also did Namaz five times for a year with good Muslim friend for a year, more to have discipline than anything else. It was more to take stock of my thoughts and my reactions during two Namaz. So, my apologies are not fake! Please do not respond! Bandwidth is precious and I am finely tuned to Baig Ji
#863 Posted by zeemax on June 30, 2008 8:10:45 am
#838 Posted by muradbaig
I try to never speak of Islamic architecture, art, scripts, culture or atrocities because these were not the creations of the religion but the good and bad activities of numerous people like the Arabs, Persians, Mongols, Afghans Turks, etc.
My God you're so ignorant. Why do you think they built mosques with the highest entrance arches possible? It was to make a person feel small and humble while entering the house of Allah. The Samarkand grand Mosque is an example.
But perhaps you're not ignorant, but a deceitful and willful misleader of people.
I try to never speak of Islamic architecture, art, scripts, culture or atrocities because these were not the creations of the religion but the good and bad activities of numerous people like the Arabs, Persians, Mongols, Afghans Turks, etc.
My God you're so ignorant. Why do you think they built mosques with the highest entrance arches possible? It was to make a person feel small and humble while entering the house of Allah. The Samarkand grand Mosque is an example.
But perhaps you're not ignorant, but a deceitful and willful misleader of people.
#862 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 8:09:14 am
"Re: # 840
You are being very personal but my wife remains a devout Hindu and my children went to public schools in India."
Muradbhai,
Does she take your last name? Obviously you are not taking her last name. Are the names of your kids Arabic/Persian or Indic?
You are being very personal but my wife remains a devout Hindu and my children went to public schools in India."
Muradbhai,
Does she take your last name? Obviously you are not taking her last name. Are the names of your kids Arabic/Persian or Indic?
#861 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 8:01:53 am
Muradbhai,
I am finely tuned to your signal filtering out the noise of tahir, eklavya and mystics. Hello r u there?
I am finely tuned to your signal filtering out the noise of tahir, eklavya and mystics. Hello r u there?
#860 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 7:58:16 am
Muradbhai,
Thanks for your reply 840! I hope you did not get hurt. I do not have malice. Both of us dearly care for the land which nourished us in many different ways and atleast I feel fortunate to be born in this land and culture.
You have not given answers to many other questions. Would you please. You are a public figure. I can hide behind a nick but you cannot. Not fair but part of the game!
Thanks for your reply 840! I hope you did not get hurt. I do not have malice. Both of us dearly care for the land which nourished us in many different ways and atleast I feel fortunate to be born in this land and culture.
You have not given answers to many other questions. Would you please. You are a public figure. I can hide behind a nick but you cannot. Not fair but part of the game!
#858 Posted by tahir on June 30, 2008 7:54:14 am
Re: # 835 Pappy Girl
"The rootless converts have the lowest self esteem. They sell their mothers to the highest bidder"
Watch your rea end because you're talking through it now. Your derogatory remarks are being noted with disgust.
Grow up quickly for everyone's benefit..
"The rootless converts have the lowest self esteem. They sell their mothers to the highest bidder"
Watch your rea end because you're talking through it now. Your derogatory remarks are being noted with disgust.
Grow up quickly for everyone's benefit..
#857 Posted by Mystic on June 30, 2008 7:53:16 am
YAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN
You all Hindu Muslim Brahman Syed and in between sikhs are stuck up egotistical biggot .
You all Hindu Muslim Brahman Syed and in between sikhs are stuck up egotistical biggot .
#856 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 7:52:22 am
Tahir Uncle,
"What is the secret? How do Indian parents allow their Guddus, Pappus, Laddus, Pinkus to grow up so confused and wasters of believers' time?"
You are really very pious one, but we do not want yet another foreigner tell us who we are when his own community is way below us in most of the indices of human development. After a good meal of sheesh-kabab prepared by a maid you come here to give Islamic burps. We do not like the smell. India was fine before Muslim came and will be better if they leave. Sorry to be little harsh!
Would you please do a fast on posting and asking foolish questions! Thanks!
The world is saying - It's Islam stupid!
"What is the secret? How do Indian parents allow their Guddus, Pappus, Laddus, Pinkus to grow up so confused and wasters of believers' time?"
You are really very pious one, but we do not want yet another foreigner tell us who we are when his own community is way below us in most of the indices of human development. After a good meal of sheesh-kabab prepared by a maid you come here to give Islamic burps. We do not like the smell. India was fine before Muslim came and will be better if they leave. Sorry to be little harsh!
Would you please do a fast on posting and asking foolish questions! Thanks!
The world is saying - It's Islam stupid!
#855 Posted by tahir on June 30, 2008 7:51:34 am
Re: # 832 Ladds
"In my opinion , one can blasphemize about Mohammad but not about Allah! In my view one can reject Mohammad but NOT Allah!!"
Your VIEW, your opinion! Hay Raam!
Will you stop living on just cow-dung? What non-sense are you uttering; your opinions don't change what Muslims believe or don't.
Head (with a shaven head) to the 'mandir' PLEASE!!!
"In my opinion , one can blasphemize about Mohammad but not about Allah! In my view one can reject Mohammad but NOT Allah!!"
Your VIEW, your opinion! Hay Raam!
Will you stop living on just cow-dung? What non-sense are you uttering; your opinions don't change what Muslims believe or don't.
Head (with a shaven head) to the 'mandir' PLEASE!!!
#854 Posted by muradbaig on June 30, 2008 7:49:43 am
Re: # 840
You are being very personal but my wife remains a devout Hindu and my children went to public schools in India.
You are being very personal but my wife remains a devout Hindu and my children went to public schools in India.
#853 Posted by tahir on June 30, 2008 7:46:32 am
Re: # 828 Aik Love Ya
"Is Islam itself, inherently, a bigoted religion, like brahminism? What do you think..."
Allow me to answer: NO it is not! Naughty children project daddy a certain way; it is not daddy's fault! Daddy is very good; bad company has caused problems for the children!
What do YOU see in the Qur'an if you've read it by any chance?
"Is Islam itself, inherently, a bigoted religion, like brahminism? What do you think..."
Allow me to answer: NO it is not! Naughty children project daddy a certain way; it is not daddy's fault! Daddy is very good; bad company has caused problems for the children!
What do YOU see in the Qur'an if you've read it by any chance?
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