Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis

#148 Posted by Kulharee on June 19, 2008 12:04:12 pm
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Good detective work there Colombo. Now tell me why do Shias curse Ayesha? I personally don’t have any problem with that. I say let people be people."}

Mr. Kulharee,
Thank you for agreeing that you are a confirmed LIAR. The disagreement between Shias and Sunnis and Shias and other Shias is over succession for the positions of Khalifa and Imam. This is a matter that does not affect the core beliefs of Muslims, unlike the Qadiani assertion of having Mirza Ghulam Ahmed as a "prophet" and "messenger" of Allah.

Individuals may curse various figures in Islamic history, but that is not sanctioned nor approved by Shia religious leaders. Insulting the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and associating false "prophets" with the religion he formed are not trivial expressions of approval or disapproval for Muslims. ALL Muslims agree that the Holy Prophet (PBUH) is the central person in the religion of Islam and is the LAST Messenger of Allah.


{"Explain this to me:"}

I will try, but your comprehension of rational explanations is characteristically below average.

{"- which community in Pakistan is being persecuted (Ahmadis or Sunnis???)"}
In Pakistan, all communities are persecuted due to military rule, mindless suicide bombings, and lack of adherence to civilized manner of interaction among diverse groups. Having said that, it is correct to state that ALL minorities in Pakistan, including the Qadianis, Hindus, Sikhs, and Christians are better protected physically and materially in comparison to Muslims in India, especially in Gujarat and Mumbai.

{"- which community is singled out in terms of legislation (Ahmadis or Sunnis???)"}

Again, all communities are suffering from the lack of effective legislation, and more importantly, the lack of enforcement of existing laws. If you are specifically referring to the 1974 legislation declaring Qadianis to be non-Muslims, then you must appreciate the wisdom of that act. It is far better to resolve the dispute through legislation than to fight it out in the streets. The overwhelming majorities of Pakistanis and Muslims do not consider Qadianis to be Muslim - thanks to their blasphemous statements against the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and their insistence on having Mirza Ghulam Ahmed as a "prophet."

{"- which community is discriminated against in Pakistan (Ahmadis or Sunnis???)"}

If anyone is discriminated in Pakistan, it is the poor, the uneducated, and the lower classes. Qadianis, because of their stature as Punjabis, albeit non-Muslims, have a much higher standard of living than the rural Muslim masses in Sindh, NWFP, Baluchistan.

{"- which community cant write a Kalma on its mosque (nor can call it a mosque)"}

Naturally, as non-Muslims and proven blasphemers against the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and Islam, Qadianis are not allowed to ridicule the Last Messenger (PBUH) and his religion. It is only rational that insulting the Kalima or the Muslim place of worship by mimicking them and infringing upon these traditional symbols of Islam should be prohibited in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

{"and an idiot like you is worried about some stupid cartoons. Wao. You sure have your priorities very straight."}

Now, you get to the crux of the problem. This is the area where Qadianis and Muslims differ distinctly. The sanctity of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) is of the highest priority for almost all Muslims. To me, the name and stature of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) are more important than Pakistan, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the UN, or any concept other than God Himself.

and kul....

http://www.chowk.com/interacts/10510/2/0/a

you're welcome..

BTW: Kulharee...here's something for you...



#43 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 7, 2006 10:11:53 am
Feroz Qutabshahi, {``What needs to be done is to expose the state-sanctioned and foreign-sponsored (Saudi Arabia) movement to persecute Ahmadis and other religious minorities in Pakistan and elsewhere. ``}

Qutabshahi Sahib,
Thank you for writing an excellent and powerful article that explains why Zia-ul-Haq and Bhutto are receiving their just reward in hell. I have always considered Ahmadis to be genuine Muslims, and more importantly, very decent human beings. I have always found it amusing that for partition purposes, Pakistan has always claimed that Gurdaspur, then heavily populated by Ahmadis, was a ``Muslim`` majority area, but for internal Pakistani political reasons, Ahmadis are not Muslim. Another way to say the same thing is that in 1947 Ahmadis were Muslims but in 1974 they stopped being Muslims.

The simplest solution would be to issue an apology to all Ahmadis, invite them back as Muslims, and then to promptly pass the same laws against the evil Wahabbis - expelling their posteriors from Islam, and hopefully from humanity one day. :)

#134 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 18, 2008 3:27:53 pm


Your profanity against the Holy Prophet (PBUH)


You've gone from calling him "Mo(Pbuh)" to capitalizing the H and P...

Good detective work there Colombo. Now tell me why do Shias curse Ayesha? I personally don’t have any problem with that. I say let people be people. Explain this to me:

- which community in Pakistan is being persecuted (Ahmadis or Sunnis???)
- which community is singled out in terms of legislation (Ahmadis or Sunnis???)
- which community is discriminated against in Pakistan (Ahmadis or Sunnis???)
- which community cant write a Kalma on its mosque (nor can call it a mosque)

and an idiot like you is worried about some stupid cartoons. Wao. You sure have your priorities very straight.

#145 Posted by Kulharee on June 19, 2008 11:53:30 am
{"Chuhay, now all of a sudden you go to UP? I thought you said you didn’t go there."}

Mr. Kulharee,
I did not go to UP, MP, AP, or CP. I was alerted about that detestable act of your Qadiani friend by another Chowkie. You guys really know how to make enemies and influence people - although not always in the manner favorable to your religion.

By the way, I noticed that you still haven't obtained treatment for your Tourette Syndrome affliction. Please don't delay it any more.

#126 Posted by Kulharee on June 18, 2008 11:19:20 am

{"#119 Chuhya, somehow I find that very hard to believe. No Ahmadi will make friends with someone who curses the wives of the Prophet. Can you categorically state that you respect all wives of the Prophet? Hypocrite."}

Mr. Kulharee,
I am going to prove that you are a liar:

FACT: Mr. Chaltahai is a very good friend of yours and a drinking buddy. You know him personally and socialize with him.

FACT: Mr. Chaltahai has frequently insulted BOTH the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and his wife Hazrat Ayesha. He has used numerous sexually derogatory references to both of them as part of his "Mo & Ayesha" barrage of insults meant to provoke Muslims. You have never criticized him for this and have also joined him in this blasphemy.

FACT: You are a self-proclaimed Qadiani and have written articles on Chowk regarding the Qadiani religion and people.

Therefore, either you are lying or you are not a Qadiani or Mr. Chaltahai is not your friend.

Oh yes, I can categorically state that I wholeheartedly respect the Holy Prophet and his family - including all of his wives.

Chuhay, now all of a sudden you go to UP? I thought you said you didn’t go there. I am sure you are aware of the lovely posts open everyday (there’s a new one waiting just for you) disrespecting of MY faith. Go check it out.

#136 Posted by Kulharee on June 18, 2008 4:29:57 pm

{"Blind Chuhay, giving lip service to Mohammad is not really showing him respect, but fighting for injustice against minorities is a much bigger respect you can show to him. You are just an idiot brainwashed monkey without a clue. Here we have a community being persecuted, students being expelled because of their beliefs, and all idiots like you can worry about is, oh but they don’t show respect to our prophet. Jackass. Here, here's a little respect for your prophet."}

Mr. Kulharee,
I am very disappointed to note your persistently uncivilized and vulgar manner of interaction. Perhaps your propensity for profanity is a personal affliction rather than a consequence of your religious beliefs.

As for your continued insults regarding Our Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), I am sure that you have seen the horrible cartoon posted on Chowk UP by another Qadiani, your good friend Banneditem. That distasteful illustration depicts the notorious Danish caricature of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) in a turban. The more despicable feature is the enhancement by your friend of two monkeys (AZTAGHFIRULLAH) urinating on the turbaned person who is supposed to be our Holy Prophet (PBUH). If this represents the respect and regard you have for our Holy Prophet (PBUH), I can understand why the overwhelming majority of Muslims and Pakistanis detest you and your coreligionists of the Qadiani faith. Shame on you!

Nazi, my photo was shot by a Danish photographer. Glad you liked it. Would you like me to post his other celebrated works? For a Wahabi you are pretty docile. I like it when you take your dogma to the max. It shows in your interacts, the language you use, and in the imprudent garbage you write. What’s your fascination with Q-cucumbers? Did you sit on one today?

CHOWK is now called CHOWQ!

Why? Because Q-men from Planet Rabwah have hijacked it!

correction to my last transmission:

Do them a favour, and stay AWAY from this men's room.

Re: # 137 way cheemaya

Hai hai tainoN!!

"My parents are far more likely to get disappointed in me for holding dialogues with complete wank-pots on this site!"

Do them a favour, and stay from this men's room.

Re: # 130 Metal Freak

Have you looked at your own photo on CHOWK, complete with a devil's sign (a clenched fist with index & little fingers sticking up)?

Do Q-cumbers look like the non-edible (for us Muslims) animal you resemble?

None of your power-chords have any real power....

Piece.

Re: # 128 Hey Dairy!

By posting this THING twice, you make it sound like I contracted double pneumonia!

What made YOU throw up twice? Hey, watch while you do that!

Re: # 124; Tahir
[[Ah....how your parents will hate what you write here?]]

My parents are far more likely to get disappointed in me for holding dialogues with complete wank-pots on this site!