Dost Mittar July 4, 2008
#148 Posted by satya100 on July 13, 2008 10:07:17 am
Re: # 147 Senna,
The Muslim girl was married to one Marathi boy Jadhav. Just imagine if some Hindu had done to his daughter who was married to a Muslim, how much publicity it would have got.
This news almost went unnoticed so Ummah and muslims like you remain in dark. You remain in the ghetto and do not mix with the local community. That breeds hate and suspicion in bothe the communities.
That is why I say Islam needs to be marathiazed, bangaliazed or Kanndized. You have this Senna as your nick, why not Charak or Dhanwantari?
The Muslim girl was married to one Marathi boy Jadhav. Just imagine if some Hindu had done to his daughter who was married to a Muslim, how much publicity it would have got.
This news almost went unnoticed so Ummah and muslims like you remain in dark. You remain in the ghetto and do not mix with the local community. That breeds hate and suspicion in bothe the communities.
That is why I say Islam needs to be marathiazed, bangaliazed or Kanndized. You have this Senna as your nick, why not Charak or Dhanwantari?
#147 Posted by Senna on July 13, 2008 8:45:45 am
Re: # 146
I didnt read beyond heading .If so it was very cruel.
Do you think this can never happen with any non muslim?
I didnt read beyond heading .If so it was very cruel.
Do you think this can never happen with any non muslim?
#146 Posted by satya100 on July 13, 2008 2:18:34 am
Re: # 144 Senna you are senile. Go to bed. The point was cruelty of it. mother sitting on 18 year old daughter and father cuts her into pieces in front of other younger siblings in the name of Allah for the sake of Ummah.
#145 Posted by masadi on July 13, 2008 2:02:30 am
dost_mutter writes "She also said that nearly 70% of the university students there are girls...."
He said, she said the prime "proof" of the morons...
He said, she said the prime "proof" of the morons...
#144 Posted by Senna on July 12, 2008 11:03:00 pm
Re: # 141
Court convicts parents for murdering daughter in MumbaiFont
It wa over reaction & WRONG .Murder suicide in civil conditionis never approved in ay religion Dont mix war police force etc.
If your daughter married any non approved groom would you not be displeased .
RIZWANUR REHMAN DID THE SAME THING .Granted Todi did not kill his daughter but drove the boy to suicide or arranged to be killed .Killing is unjustified in civil social situation.
indian dont do LOVE MARRIAGE .All that is Bollywood and stories statistically .It may be in Abcd which is o.k. here .
Court convicts parents for murdering daughter in MumbaiFont
It wa over reaction & WRONG .Murder suicide in civil conditionis never approved in ay religion Dont mix war police force etc.
If your daughter married any non approved groom would you not be displeased .
RIZWANUR REHMAN DID THE SAME THING .Granted Todi did not kill his daughter but drove the boy to suicide or arranged to be killed .Killing is unjustified in civil social situation.
indian dont do LOVE MARRIAGE .All that is Bollywood and stories statistically .It may be in Abcd which is o.k. here .
#143 Posted by masadi on July 12, 2008 10:07:24 pm
I am free again after being illegally detained by the chowk staff for 48 hours even though they claimed it was for 24, may God damn them all
#141 Posted by satya100 on July 11, 2008 12:02:43 pm
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Mumbai, July 11: Parents of an 18-year-old girl were sentenced to life by a Court in Mumbai for murdering and cutting her into several pieces.
Additional sessions judge O S Jaiswal on Friday held Mohammad Munna Sardar Khan (38) and his wife Shenaz Khan (35) guilty of murdering their daughter on July 2, 2006 and for disposing off her body by cutting it into 11 pieces and dumping them in a gunny bag.
The gruesome act was committed by the parents after their daughter Mehnaz Khan eloped and married a Hindu boy.
The Court, while sentencing them to life imprisonment, observed that it is not a “rarest of the rare case” since they cut her into 11 pieces only after strangulating her to death with a towel.
The Court considering the two accused’s moral responsibility towards their five other children showed leniency and sentenced them to the minimum punishment of life.
Defence Advocate Wahab Khan argued before the Court on Friday, “They committed the murder only to set an example for their two other daughters so that they also do not follow their sister’s track.” On July 2, 2006 Khan and his wife had learnt that their daughter had eloped with a Hindu Maharashtrian boy Vidyanand Jadhav to Panvel and had got married to him there.
When the Khans learnt of it they went to Panvel and pleaded with Mehnaz to return home. Khan and his wife assured Mehnaz that once she comes home they would accept her marrige to Jadhav.
However after she returned home at 2300 hrs, Khan strangulated Mehnaz to death while her mother sat on her to avoid her to escape.
Agencies
Posted online: Friday , July 11, 2008 at 06:12:09
Updated: Friday , July 11, 2008 at 06:07:32 Print Email To Editor Post Comments
Mumbai, July 11: Parents of an 18-year-old girl were sentenced to life by a Court in Mumbai for murdering and cutting her into several pieces.
Additional sessions judge O S Jaiswal on Friday held Mohammad Munna Sardar Khan (38) and his wife Shenaz Khan (35) guilty of murdering their daughter on July 2, 2006 and for disposing off her body by cutting it into 11 pieces and dumping them in a gunny bag.
The gruesome act was committed by the parents after their daughter Mehnaz Khan eloped and married a Hindu boy.
The Court, while sentencing them to life imprisonment, observed that it is not a “rarest of the rare case” since they cut her into 11 pieces only after strangulating her to death with a towel.
The Court considering the two accused’s moral responsibility towards their five other children showed leniency and sentenced them to the minimum punishment of life.
Defence Advocate Wahab Khan argued before the Court on Friday, “They committed the murder only to set an example for their two other daughters so that they also do not follow their sister’s track.” On July 2, 2006 Khan and his wife had learnt that their daughter had eloped with a Hindu Maharashtrian boy Vidyanand Jadhav to Panvel and had got married to him there.
When the Khans learnt of it they went to Panvel and pleaded with Mehnaz to return home. Khan and his wife assured Mehnaz that once she comes home they would accept her marrige to Jadhav.
However after she returned home at 2300 hrs, Khan strangulated Mehnaz to death while her mother sat on her to avoid her to escape.
#140 Posted by dost_mittar on July 11, 2008 8:57:44 am
bulleya:
I agree with you re the gulf states (or estates?). They have finally got some englightened emirs who seem to be more progressive than their people. For example, it is they (the emirs) who are pushing for women's votes and seats in parliament. This Kuwaiti girl was telling me that they have two women ministers now even though people did not elect a single woman to the parliament [oh, and I met her at the facility where she has come with her younger sister's treatment for cancer. I am a volunteer there]. She also said that nearly 70% of the university students there are girls. And you are right about south asians there, although it seems that they do like bollywood films of which she seemed to be more up to date than I.
I agree with you re the gulf states (or estates?). They have finally got some englightened emirs who seem to be more progressive than their people. For example, it is they (the emirs) who are pushing for women's votes and seats in parliament. This Kuwaiti girl was telling me that they have two women ministers now even though people did not elect a single woman to the parliament [oh, and I met her at the facility where she has come with her younger sister's treatment for cancer. I am a volunteer there]. She also said that nearly 70% of the university students there are girls. And you are right about south asians there, although it seems that they do like bollywood films of which she seemed to be more up to date than I.
#139 Posted by _arjun10 on July 11, 2008 8:11:46 am
#138 Posted by bulleya on July 11, 2008 7:38:29 am
....i have been spending a lot of time in uae, and am really learning quite a bit about them....my views are slowly starting to change......much like they changed about indians
Much like your views on the t-shirts with paki flags in the US changed when you actually wore one?
....i have been spending a lot of time in uae, and am really learning quite a bit about them....my views are slowly starting to change......much like they changed about indians
Much like your views on the t-shirts with paki flags in the US changed when you actually wore one?
#138 Posted by bulleya on July 11, 2008 7:38:29 am
dost-mittar #: "Seriously, I was talking to this girl from Kuwait at a hospital facility where I volunteer....Indians in Kuwait without making any distinction between Indians and Pakistanis."
first of all, why have you started talking to young girls at this age of your life......
...arabs are least bothered about south asia......other than the construction companies and telecom companies who want to make money there......
....i have been spending a lot of time in uae, and am really learning quite a bit about them....my views are slowly starting to change......much like they changed about indians, once i started meeting them (not counting most indians on this site)
arabs seem to have a very strong identity of their own.....i assume such confidence comes to people whose ancestors ruled the world.......such confidence is present in europeans, turks etc......and even pathans......
...for obvious reasons it is not present in south asians......it is totally missing in punjabis.....punjab being, perhaps, the most foreign ruled area in the history of the world......in the past 2300 years, ranjit singh being the only punjabi who ruled punjab (until nawaz sharif arrived)......
arabs see south asians as labor....previously they saw south asians as construction labor and taxi driver.....now they see them as IT labor (and as construction labor and taxi drivers)......they don't know the difference between a pathan, a tamil or a punjabi....every one is labor......
having said that, some of these arab sheikhs and their advisors are very bright.....they seem to be getting their act together.......if the wahabi influence in saudi arabia ever ends, these arabs in gcc are going to come back to the forefront again......with or without democracy.....
historically, the arab contribution to everything - science, culture, military, art, philosophy, etc. - , specifically during their islamic phase, has been huge......and i think, deep down inside they all realize that.......
south asians have, on the whole, been, historically, losers.....this, more than religion, is why even pakistanis with die-hard arabic names like gill and rao and rana and chauhan and chandio try to portray themselves as descendants of arabs and not of south asians.....
first of all, why have you started talking to young girls at this age of your life......
...arabs are least bothered about south asia......other than the construction companies and telecom companies who want to make money there......
....i have been spending a lot of time in uae, and am really learning quite a bit about them....my views are slowly starting to change......much like they changed about indians, once i started meeting them (not counting most indians on this site)
arabs seem to have a very strong identity of their own.....i assume such confidence comes to people whose ancestors ruled the world.......such confidence is present in europeans, turks etc......and even pathans......
...for obvious reasons it is not present in south asians......it is totally missing in punjabis.....punjab being, perhaps, the most foreign ruled area in the history of the world......in the past 2300 years, ranjit singh being the only punjabi who ruled punjab (until nawaz sharif arrived)......
arabs see south asians as labor....previously they saw south asians as construction labor and taxi driver.....now they see them as IT labor (and as construction labor and taxi drivers)......they don't know the difference between a pathan, a tamil or a punjabi....every one is labor......
having said that, some of these arab sheikhs and their advisors are very bright.....they seem to be getting their act together.......if the wahabi influence in saudi arabia ever ends, these arabs in gcc are going to come back to the forefront again......with or without democracy.....
historically, the arab contribution to everything - science, culture, military, art, philosophy, etc. - , specifically during their islamic phase, has been huge......and i think, deep down inside they all realize that.......
south asians have, on the whole, been, historically, losers.....this, more than religion, is why even pakistanis with die-hard arabic names like gill and rao and rana and chauhan and chandio try to portray themselves as descendants of arabs and not of south asians.....
#137 Posted by Senna on July 11, 2008 6:07:37 am
Re: # 135
Just like all goras look alike atleast to uninitiated Indians (which is both Paki & Bharti)Ukraine to U.K.
Just like all goras look alike atleast to uninitiated Indians (which is both Paki & Bharti)Ukraine to U.K.
#136 Posted by satya100 on July 11, 2008 5:51:38 am
"hmm.....could it be......could it just be......could it.....that pakistan should have looked west towards those parts of its roots, which consist of people who ruled the world.......rather than towards the east, towards that part of its roots, who were always ruled......."
Could it be that such tactical g..dugiri brought Pakis into today's dire state?
Could it be that such tactical g..dugiri brought Pakis into today's dire state?
#135 Posted by dost_mittar on July 11, 2008 5:35:20 am
bulleya#133:
"hmm.....could it be......could it just be......could it.....that pakistan should have looked west towards those parts of its roots, which consist of people who ruled the world.......rather than towards the east, towards that part of its roots, who were always ruled......."
Ah, but Kashmir is in the east.(showing tongue wala ikon!)
Seriously, I was talking to this girl from Kuwait at a hospital facility where I volunteer, and I was reading an Urdu book so she wouldn't know I was an Indian, yet all the time she was talking about Indians in Kuwait without making any distinction between Indians and Pakistanis.
"hmm.....could it be......could it just be......could it.....that pakistan should have looked west towards those parts of its roots, which consist of people who ruled the world.......rather than towards the east, towards that part of its roots, who were always ruled......."
Ah, but Kashmir is in the east.(showing tongue wala ikon!)
Seriously, I was talking to this girl from Kuwait at a hospital facility where I volunteer, and I was reading an Urdu book so she wouldn't know I was an Indian, yet all the time she was talking about Indians in Kuwait without making any distinction between Indians and Pakistanis.
#134 Posted by harish_hyd on July 11, 2008 2:39:47 am
#133 by bulleya
.....that pakistan should have looked west towards those parts of its roots, which consist of people who ruled the world.......rather than towards the east, towards that part of its roots, who were always ruled.......
Captain Clueless, not that you didn't do it. You licked everyone's boots in the hope that they'd throw you a few crumbs. And you should really try harder to look towards the "west" (the middle east that is). Already they look at you as even worse than the Kafir Indians, your doing so will convince them even more.
.....that pakistan should have looked west towards those parts of its roots, which consist of people who ruled the world.......rather than towards the east, towards that part of its roots, who were always ruled.......
Captain Clueless, not that you didn't do it. You licked everyone's boots in the hope that they'd throw you a few crumbs. And you should really try harder to look towards the "west" (the middle east that is). Already they look at you as even worse than the Kafir Indians, your doing so will convince them even more.
#133 Posted by bulleya on July 10, 2008 11:04:49 pm
.....before people give a final verdict on mo' and his men, i would like to encourage them to visit the gulf.......
.....the gcc is about to agree to a common currency, after which, they will become the 16th (??) biggest economic entity in the world......
....goras from far and beyond - uk, canada, usa, and what not - are swarming to dubai and the other sheikhdoms......so much so that all my pakistani friends who migrated there years ago; the same friends whom i used to think weren't intelligent enough to migrate to dearborn and san jose, are now multi-millionaires....they bought one or two apartments, which are now worth millions.....
....an apartment in dubai, worth 1 million four years ago is now selling at 4.5 million dhms.......
.....everyone from donald trump to the icc to premji to spielberg to walt disney is jumping left and right to enter this area.....the biggest investment firm in the world is in abu dhabi, which is buying out crumbling american assets like citibank......the ceo of citibank - the flagship symbol of american finance - was, recently, fired by a prince sitting in the deserts of saudi arabia.....
.....the gulf countries are actually under a lot of pressure to delink their currencies from the dollar, i.e. these arabs, now, think the us dollar is a loser and their currencies are the winners!.......
if i recall correctly, there is only one city in the world that has two builidings over 100 floors......dubai is building ten such buildings.....the two largest islamic banks in the world have been launched there with capital of $1 billion each....
and all of this, without asking their residents for any tax.....
hmm.....could it be......could it just be......could it.....that pakistan should have looked west towards those parts of its roots, which consist of people who ruled the world.......rather than towards the east, towards that part of its roots, who were always ruled.......
p.s. having said that.......dubai did declare a national holiday, when george bush visited......everyone sat at home, while bush was given a tour of dubai......
.....the gcc is about to agree to a common currency, after which, they will become the 16th (??) biggest economic entity in the world......
....goras from far and beyond - uk, canada, usa, and what not - are swarming to dubai and the other sheikhdoms......so much so that all my pakistani friends who migrated there years ago; the same friends whom i used to think weren't intelligent enough to migrate to dearborn and san jose, are now multi-millionaires....they bought one or two apartments, which are now worth millions.....
....an apartment in dubai, worth 1 million four years ago is now selling at 4.5 million dhms.......
.....everyone from donald trump to the icc to premji to spielberg to walt disney is jumping left and right to enter this area.....the biggest investment firm in the world is in abu dhabi, which is buying out crumbling american assets like citibank......the ceo of citibank - the flagship symbol of american finance - was, recently, fired by a prince sitting in the deserts of saudi arabia.....
.....the gulf countries are actually under a lot of pressure to delink their currencies from the dollar, i.e. these arabs, now, think the us dollar is a loser and their currencies are the winners!.......
if i recall correctly, there is only one city in the world that has two builidings over 100 floors......dubai is building ten such buildings.....the two largest islamic banks in the world have been launched there with capital of $1 billion each....
and all of this, without asking their residents for any tax.....
hmm.....could it be......could it just be......could it.....that pakistan should have looked west towards those parts of its roots, which consist of people who ruled the world.......rather than towards the east, towards that part of its roots, who were always ruled.......
p.s. having said that.......dubai did declare a national holiday, when george bush visited......everyone sat at home, while bush was given a tour of dubai......
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