Dost Mittar July 4, 2008
#132 Posted by bulleya on July 10, 2008 10:32:59 pm
hamidm2 mian: "...... i will let better men (and women) do the actual fighting while i cheer on from the sidelines..."
..who exactly are these better men and women.....this is my whole point.....there is no one from your side doing the fighting.....everyone is, simply, doing the cheerleading...while on the other side, everyone and their grandmother is fighting.....
the jamia hafsa ladies have been shot at, jailed, killed, humiliated, their kids have been killed, yet they are back again......calm as ever, sitting on the ruins of their madrassah (infact it isn't even theirs, it is owned by the govt.), challenging everyone again.....
while i, totally, disagree with what you believe in, and, generally, disagree with what they believe in, i have to say that if i had to chose between you and umm-e-hassam (the leader of jamia hafsa ladies) supporting me in a streetfight, the choice would be an easy one.......
whom exactly are your cheerleading......who is the roger staubach and troy aikman of your team......
"..... as for urstruly, he has left america..."
when did this happen.....how and why did this happen.....did he leave voluntarily, based on principle, or did his visa expire.......
".....and is right now holed up in a cave somewhere along the pak-afghan border with a one-eyed mullah, a tall arab, and a jackass who has had enough ......."
...if i understand urstruly's personality, he is in the same category as you....he is also a cheerleader only.....his asset is that his team actually has troy aikmans (and now even has martina navratilovas and venus williams).....hence i find it hard to believe that he is in a cave, fighting it out.........
"....these people have the conviction but they will loose because they don't have the bomb or indoor plumbing and have yet to discover toothpaste ...... "
how will they lose......who will defeat them.......i am talking in the context of pakistan here.....who is on your team, in pakistan.........
"......if by any chance they win and the moslem hordes from dearborn take over michigan, i will simply move to alaska or the peoples republic of canada ..."
....while i don't respect cowards.....at least you are an honest coward......
p.s. canadians hate bush and the republicans.......hence alaska would be a better option.......
..who exactly are these better men and women.....this is my whole point.....there is no one from your side doing the fighting.....everyone is, simply, doing the cheerleading...while on the other side, everyone and their grandmother is fighting.....
the jamia hafsa ladies have been shot at, jailed, killed, humiliated, their kids have been killed, yet they are back again......calm as ever, sitting on the ruins of their madrassah (infact it isn't even theirs, it is owned by the govt.), challenging everyone again.....
while i, totally, disagree with what you believe in, and, generally, disagree with what they believe in, i have to say that if i had to chose between you and umm-e-hassam (the leader of jamia hafsa ladies) supporting me in a streetfight, the choice would be an easy one.......
whom exactly are your cheerleading......who is the roger staubach and troy aikman of your team......
"..... as for urstruly, he has left america..."
when did this happen.....how and why did this happen.....did he leave voluntarily, based on principle, or did his visa expire.......
".....and is right now holed up in a cave somewhere along the pak-afghan border with a one-eyed mullah, a tall arab, and a jackass who has had enough ......."
...if i understand urstruly's personality, he is in the same category as you....he is also a cheerleader only.....his asset is that his team actually has troy aikmans (and now even has martina navratilovas and venus williams).....hence i find it hard to believe that he is in a cave, fighting it out.........
"....these people have the conviction but they will loose because they don't have the bomb or indoor plumbing and have yet to discover toothpaste ...... "
how will they lose......who will defeat them.......i am talking in the context of pakistan here.....who is on your team, in pakistan.........
"......if by any chance they win and the moslem hordes from dearborn take over michigan, i will simply move to alaska or the peoples republic of canada ..."
....while i don't respect cowards.....at least you are an honest coward......
p.s. canadians hate bush and the republicans.......hence alaska would be a better option.......
#131 Posted by tahmed32 on July 10, 2008 7:46:15 pm
#121 hamidm you coward!! cant handle poor deluded masadi's rantings on chowk, and you talk about nuking fata and talk nazi-style about final solution for muslims!!
#130 Posted by mohar11 on July 10, 2008 2:58:01 pm
Re: # 128
Kaal speaks in riddles, but he essential says same thing as hamid... you have to understand the basest tendencies of the muslim population and know how to control/counter them...
I know this will not go down very well with a lot of people - but it's also called the "hinduisation" of muslims... it's not politically correct, but it works... from india to indonesia - it has worked for centuries... The recent wahabi surge notwithstanding....
Kaal speaks in riddles, but he essential says same thing as hamid... you have to understand the basest tendencies of the muslim population and know how to control/counter them...
I know this will not go down very well with a lot of people - but it's also called the "hinduisation" of muslims... it's not politically correct, but it works... from india to indonesia - it has worked for centuries... The recent wahabi surge notwithstanding....
#129 Posted by mohar11 on July 10, 2008 2:52:15 pm
anil
Hamidm's point, if I understand correctly, is that - nobody should ever pander to the muslim fundamentalist tendencies... as long as that is under control, things should be fine more or less...
your statement is true is general - democracy/ economy/ empowerment is necessary but not sufficient... Situation in britain is the prime example - Britland has the best democracy/ economy/ empowerment anywhere in the world - but hasn't made a damn difference to the muslim population... Mostly because Britain has pandered to the fundamentalists and have not figured out how to control them...
india ain't going to come even close to Brits on democracy/ economy/ empowerment department for long time to come, but that does not mean india has to suffer from radical islamism either... as long as india follows the simple prescription as mentioned above... which it has, barring exceptions... Which is why you don't see many indian muslims in Gitmo or global jihad...
Hamidm's point, if I understand correctly, is that - nobody should ever pander to the muslim fundamentalist tendencies... as long as that is under control, things should be fine more or less...
your statement is true is general - democracy/ economy/ empowerment is necessary but not sufficient... Situation in britain is the prime example - Britland has the best democracy/ economy/ empowerment anywhere in the world - but hasn't made a damn difference to the muslim population... Mostly because Britain has pandered to the fundamentalists and have not figured out how to control them...
india ain't going to come even close to Brits on democracy/ economy/ empowerment department for long time to come, but that does not mean india has to suffer from radical islamism either... as long as india follows the simple prescription as mentioned above... which it has, barring exceptions... Which is why you don't see many indian muslims in Gitmo or global jihad...
#128 Posted by SRK on July 10, 2008 2:40:58 pm
Mohar,
"Hamid Mian, in his usual indomiable and crude style, has spoken the truth, bitter as it may be..."
Or is he trying to be Eklavya from the wrong side of the border :)
"Hamid Mian, in his usual indomiable and crude style, has spoken the truth, bitter as it may be..."
Or is he trying to be Eklavya from the wrong side of the border :)
#127 Posted by anil on July 10, 2008 2:32:54 pm
Re: # 125
Mohar:
"...has spoken the truth, bitter as it may be..."
Truth is always subjective to what we know. I prefer perception over truth. Today's India will change perception, I am very optimistic and bullish about it. Many perceptions, including those of Hindutva wadis, and Muslim Indians are going to change. India democracy, however defective, allows this to happen.
Please don't believe Hamidm sahib on this. He probably hasn't been to even his hometown in a long time.
Mohar:
"...has spoken the truth, bitter as it may be..."
Truth is always subjective to what we know. I prefer perception over truth. Today's India will change perception, I am very optimistic and bullish about it. Many perceptions, including those of Hindutva wadis, and Muslim Indians are going to change. India democracy, however defective, allows this to happen.
Please don't believe Hamidm sahib on this. He probably hasn't been to even his hometown in a long time.
#126 Posted by anil on July 10, 2008 2:27:01 pm
Re: # 121
Hamidm sahib:
"...masadi is banned ! .... al-lah be praised..."
Massaddi Mian does not show resilience of Arjun. Arjun is now at Arjun10. Massaddi Mian please do not be so rigid.
You can learn from your enemies too, including Hamidm and Tahmed sahib. If not please learn diplomacy from Cliftonbridge.
Hamidm sahib:
"...masadi is banned ! .... al-lah be praised..."
Massaddi Mian does not show resilience of Arjun. Arjun is now at Arjun10. Massaddi Mian please do not be so rigid.
You can learn from your enemies too, including Hamidm and Tahmed sahib. If not please learn diplomacy from Cliftonbridge.
#125 Posted by mohar11 on July 10, 2008 2:26:54 pm
anil
Hamid Mian, in his usual indomiable and crude style, has spoken the truth, bitter as it may be...
Hamid Mian, in his usual indomiable and crude style, has spoken the truth, bitter as it may be...
#124 Posted by anil on July 10, 2008 2:23:16 pm
Re: # 114
Hamidm sahib:
"..... keep a close eye on them and as long as they restrict their ummah related activities to cheering for the paki cricket team, secretly making fun of the elephant nosed one, making a little trouble in kashmir and blowing up a pan shop or two in bombay,.."
Is this your new found passion? Please fix the auto industry, so that your grandchildren do not driving Tata Motors. You are already tired of code coolies. Please think about your Michigan born grand children - unka kya hoga.
People like Farzana can take care of many hindutva wadis for Muslim Indians. Rest economics, education and female empowerment will.
Congratulations Farzana, on your book, how can I get a signed copy of your book?
Hamidm sahib:
"..... keep a close eye on them and as long as they restrict their ummah related activities to cheering for the paki cricket team, secretly making fun of the elephant nosed one, making a little trouble in kashmir and blowing up a pan shop or two in bombay,.."
Is this your new found passion? Please fix the auto industry, so that your grandchildren do not driving Tata Motors. You are already tired of code coolies. Please think about your Michigan born grand children - unka kya hoga.
People like Farzana can take care of many hindutva wadis for Muslim Indians. Rest economics, education and female empowerment will.
Congratulations Farzana, on your book, how can I get a signed copy of your book?
#123 Posted by ajeya on July 10, 2008 2:20:26 pm
#122 cliftonbridge
[hamidm sahab what kind of muslim admits their limitations so frankly on this enemy website ? we are all starting to doubt tales of your circumcision ! ]
Yes, what kind of Muslim would do this? By the way, how long do you think he would last on the streets of Karachi or Islamabad or any place where the peaceful religion is in the majority, if people there knew him from his posts here at Chowk?
[hamidm sahab what kind of muslim admits their limitations so frankly on this enemy website ? we are all starting to doubt tales of your circumcision ! ]
Yes, what kind of Muslim would do this? By the way, how long do you think he would last on the streets of Karachi or Islamabad or any place where the peaceful religion is in the majority, if people there knew him from his posts here at Chowk?
#122 Posted by cliftonbridge on July 10, 2008 1:57:03 pm
hamidm sahab what kind of muslim admits their limitations so frankly on this enemy website ? we are all starting to doubt tales of your circumcision !
#121 Posted by hamidm2 on July 10, 2008 12:08:05 pm
masadi is banned ! .... al-lah be praised
.....i thought he was infesting some other board ..... unlike tahmed, who is supported by the aarp and the gay and lesbian muslim community of greater baltimore, i have the capacity and bandwidth to monitor only one board at a time ......
#120 Posted by cliftonbridge on July 10, 2008 11:59:50 am
I personally think hamidm sahib is ticked off because masadi has stopped charging at his deliberate red flags ...its because he is banned hamidm jee, - not because he doesnt love you anymore :)
fight the good fight chachoo! hum aapke saath hain!
fight the good fight chachoo! hum aapke saath hain!
#119 Posted by tahmed32 on July 10, 2008 11:42:27 am
#118 i think we already solved the question of which one of the two of is the 'bewakoof'. now we are trying to understand the final solution to the muslim problem that is the outcome of mixing a bewakoof with booze.
#118 Posted by hamidm2 on July 10, 2008 11:21:52 am
Re: # 117
tahmed,
oye, bewakoof ! ... by the grace of the moon god i am still gainfully emplyed and have only so much time to spend arguing with menopausal retirees, slacker code coolies and stay at home welfare mamas ..... and there is only so much you can do when you are sitting in all-day meetings trying to stay awake and solve the problems of the us automobile industry and other dinosaurs ........
... so what was the question ?.... oh, gujrat is just a small part of india where the moslems might have been tamed (temporarily) by modi and his hindoo lashkars, but the tiger is far from dead ..... that is why i warned our scrawny veggie fed friend arjun to be careful .......
tahmed,
oye, bewakoof ! ... by the grace of the moon god i am still gainfully emplyed and have only so much time to spend arguing with menopausal retirees, slacker code coolies and stay at home welfare mamas ..... and there is only so much you can do when you are sitting in all-day meetings trying to stay awake and solve the problems of the us automobile industry and other dinosaurs ........
... so what was the question ?.... oh, gujrat is just a small part of india where the moslems might have been tamed (temporarily) by modi and his hindoo lashkars, but the tiger is far from dead ..... that is why i warned our scrawny veggie fed friend arjun to be careful .......
#117 Posted by tahmed32 on July 10, 2008 9:44:21 am
alas. hamidm moves in high circles now. and has no time to respond to expound on his thoughts when requested. :-(
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