Dost Mittar July 4, 2008
#52 Posted by dost_mittar on July 8, 2008 4:47:59 pm
arjun#41:
My post#50 to ajeya applies to you too.
friend#43:
The points you raise are not that improbable: the customs inspector does not single him out because of any prior info. but because Aamir is a muslim, the recent cases of a British doctor terrorist of Indian origin may also be considered as a factor. His luggage is not lost by accident. He does have money and he was willing to give it all to the street hooker; he could not call any friend because his life is taken over by the telephone voice and he is returning to Mumbai after a long time, so may not remember their phone numbers.
I have already indicated the improbable premises of the film.
My post#50 to ajeya applies to you too.
friend#43:
The points you raise are not that improbable: the customs inspector does not single him out because of any prior info. but because Aamir is a muslim, the recent cases of a British doctor terrorist of Indian origin may also be considered as a factor. His luggage is not lost by accident. He does have money and he was willing to give it all to the street hooker; he could not call any friend because his life is taken over by the telephone voice and he is returning to Mumbai after a long time, so may not remember their phone numbers.
I have already indicated the improbable premises of the film.
#51 Posted by dost_mittar on July 8, 2008 4:37:25 pm
hamidm#39:
"..... india would be better off giving up kashmir, hyderabad, bihar, up and other moslem infested states .."
...and I thought that you were a friend of the horrible ones. But I do agree that India should give up Kashmir and get rid of this "Nasoor" once and for all.
"..... india would be better off giving up kashmir, hyderabad, bihar, up and other moslem infested states .."
...and I thought that you were a friend of the horrible ones. But I do agree that India should give up Kashmir and get rid of this "Nasoor" once and for all.
#50 Posted by dost_mittar on July 8, 2008 4:34:33 pm
ajeya#37:
Yes, islam is a common factor in all these and I have never said that Islam is a religion of peace. In fact, I have said elsewhere that the virus of jihad is present in almost all muslims but it is dormant most of the time unless triggered by a sense of injustice.
Yes, islam is a common factor in all these and I have never said that Islam is a religion of peace. In fact, I have said elsewhere that the virus of jihad is present in almost all muslims but it is dormant most of the time unless triggered by a sense of injustice.
#49 Posted by _arjun9 on July 8, 2008 4:00:32 pm
#48 Posted by aslam644 on July 8, 2008 3:26:11 pm
actually muslims/pakistanis were progressing by leaps and bounds in every field in the UK before this war on terror
I didn't realize bradford and beeston were being bombed in the war on terrorism..
regardless, your claim of progress is BS...I'm sure you'll be able to find the income/education/unemployment numbers pre- 9/11..
and let's not forget...brit-pakis were active in jihad - the jihad in kashmir - way before 9/11..
actually muslims/pakistanis were progressing by leaps and bounds in every field in the UK before this war on terror
I didn't realize bradford and beeston were being bombed in the war on terrorism..
regardless, your claim of progress is BS...I'm sure you'll be able to find the income/education/unemployment numbers pre- 9/11..
and let's not forget...brit-pakis were active in jihad - the jihad in kashmir - way before 9/11..
#48 Posted by aslam644 on July 8, 2008 3:26:11 pm
Re: # 41
actually muslims/pakistanis were progressing by leaps and bounds in every field in the UK before this war on terror, big setback for us, but we shall overcome.
there is a kashmiri kuri riazat butt voted sexy reporter by a girlie mag even though she fat.
actually muslims/pakistanis were progressing by leaps and bounds in every field in the UK before this war on terror, big setback for us, but we shall overcome.
there is a kashmiri kuri riazat butt voted sexy reporter by a girlie mag even though she fat.
#47 Posted by tahmed32 on July 8, 2008 3:05:28 pm
and when the taliban required hindus to wear the yellow star in imitating the Nazis, the buffoons were ironically apeing the very religious intolerance that required muslims in europe to wear the yellow star along with the jews as mentioned below.
#46 Posted by tahmed32 on July 8, 2008 3:03:26 pm
hurricane #42 Actually both you and hamidm are wrong. Jews were persecuted in europe basically for the same reasons muslims are persecuted in gujerat, Ahmedis are persecuted in Pakistan. That is - on account of religious differences. And contrary to common conception, jews were not notably better off than the average christian. Indeed the very term "ghetto" referred to the impoverished quarters where jews were forced to live in europe!!
Not just this - this religious intolerance extended not just to jews but to muslims as well. thus, e.g., according to Barbara Tuchman writes in "The 15th century: A Distant Mirror", BOTH jews and muslims were required to wear the yellow star in france in the 15th century (which gained infamy when Nazis resurrected that practice in WWII for jews).
PS to Hamidm: You can now forget I wrote the above. After all, we dont want you to lose your focus on denigrating "mohammedans" by introducing contradictory facts..
Not just this - this religious intolerance extended not just to jews but to muslims as well. thus, e.g., according to Barbara Tuchman writes in "The 15th century: A Distant Mirror", BOTH jews and muslims were required to wear the yellow star in france in the 15th century (which gained infamy when Nazis resurrected that practice in WWII for jews).
PS to Hamidm: You can now forget I wrote the above. After all, we dont want you to lose your focus on denigrating "mohammedans" by introducing contradictory facts..
#45 Posted by hurricane on July 8, 2008 3:00:17 pm
mohar
"where as I am the hater, blowing up pizza joints all over the place..."
yes, you should consider not doing that anymore...get rid of that hatred, and set yerself free !
"where as I am the hater, blowing up pizza joints all over the place..."
yes, you should consider not doing that anymore...get rid of that hatred, and set yerself free !
#44 Posted by mohar11 on July 8, 2008 2:53:12 pm
Re: # 31 hoori
yep, I know you pakis are filled with love and harmony for all as recommended by religion of peace... where as I am the hater, blowing up pizza joints all over the place...
Ha ha...
yep, I know you pakis are filled with love and harmony for all as recommended by religion of peace... where as I am the hater, blowing up pizza joints all over the place...
Ha ha...
#43 Posted by friend on July 8, 2008 2:52:01 pm
DM
Overall it is a highly improbable story. Someone keeps track of a person coming from a foreign country, somehow knows which custom officer he is going to meet, also ensures that his luggage will get lost, and this person doesn't have money or some friend that he can reach in such emergency. A totally unbelievable story. There are are dozens of way to put bomb ina bus rather than going through this clockwork operation where everything can go wrong.
So I would say 1 out of 10.
Overall it is a highly improbable story. Someone keeps track of a person coming from a foreign country, somehow knows which custom officer he is going to meet, also ensures that his luggage will get lost, and this person doesn't have money or some friend that he can reach in such emergency. A totally unbelievable story. There are are dozens of way to put bomb ina bus rather than going through this clockwork operation where everything can go wrong.
So I would say 1 out of 10.
#42 Posted by hurricane on July 8, 2008 2:20:38 pm
hamidm
I agree with this part
"..... i think you have it backwards: jews were persecuted because of their extraordinary accomplishments and continued to excel in every sphere of human endeavour in spite of the persecution .........."
and here you're just being an offensive oaf
"...... this is in stark contrast to the mohammedans who were not persecuted, accomplished nothing, contributed nothing in the last seven hundred uyears and yet continue to whine and wallow in self-pity and go around blaming everyone and his menopausal aunt for their misery ....."
I agree with this part
"..... i think you have it backwards: jews were persecuted because of their extraordinary accomplishments and continued to excel in every sphere of human endeavour in spite of the persecution .........."
and here you're just being an offensive oaf
"...... this is in stark contrast to the mohammedans who were not persecuted, accomplished nothing, contributed nothing in the last seven hundred uyears and yet continue to whine and wallow in self-pity and go around blaming everyone and his menopausal aunt for their misery ....."
#41 Posted by _arjun9 on July 8, 2008 2:19:33 pm
#36 Posted by dost_mittar on July 8, 2008 1:02:35 pm
so brit-pakis, who have opportunities the vast majority of muslims can only dream of, become terrorists because have a "sense of injustice"..
saudis, who have access to more opportunities than indians, become terrorists because have a "sense of injustice"..
what's next: nazis did what they did because they had a "sense of injustice"?
so brit-pakis, who have opportunities the vast majority of muslims can only dream of, become terrorists because have a "sense of injustice"..
saudis, who have access to more opportunities than indians, become terrorists because have a "sense of injustice"..
what's next: nazis did what they did because they had a "sense of injustice"?
#40 Posted by _arjun9 on July 8, 2008 2:07:00 pm
#35 Posted by aslam644 on July 8, 2008 11:59:37 am
“Between 1951 and 2000
hello..the holocaust happened before 1951..but i'm sure you knew that...
look..you brit-pakis can whine about persecution all you want..the fact is that you all are way behind other non-majority groups..and it's your own damn fault..
“Between 1951 and 2000
hello..the holocaust happened before 1951..but i'm sure you knew that...
look..you brit-pakis can whine about persecution all you want..the fact is that you all are way behind other non-majority groups..and it's your own damn fault..
#39 Posted by hamidm2 on July 8, 2008 1:22:54 pm
dost-mittar,
..... indians will rue the day they let the moslems live on among them .... most indian moslems are jihadis in waiting and sooner or later will wage war against the infidel ..... india would be better off giving up kashmir, hyderabad, bihar, up and other moslem infested states .......
#38 Posted by hamidm2 on July 8, 2008 1:20:10 pm
Re: # 35
aslam mian,
..... i think you have it backwards: jews were persecuted because of their extraordinary accomplishments and continued to excel in every sphere of human endeavour in spite of the persecution ..........
...... this is in stark contrast to the mohammedans who were not persecuted, accomplished nothing, contributed nothing in the last seven hundred uyears and yet continue to whine and wallow in self-pity and go around blaming everyone and his menopausal aunt for their misery ......
aslam mian,
..... i think you have it backwards: jews were persecuted because of their extraordinary accomplishments and continued to excel in every sphere of human endeavour in spite of the persecution ..........
...... this is in stark contrast to the mohammedans who were not persecuted, accomplished nothing, contributed nothing in the last seven hundred uyears and yet continue to whine and wallow in self-pity and go around blaming everyone and his menopausal aunt for their misery ......
#37 Posted by ajeya on July 8, 2008 1:19:35 pm
#36 dost_mittar
[Different places, different factors. In India, it was triggered by Ayodhya, etc. Same in Palestine. But in UK and Europe, it is a combination of the sense of injustice fuelled by the concept of Umma. ]
That's right - there's a different explanation for every other country - feudal/communist China, Thailand, Myanmar, Indonesia, Malayasia, India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Yugoslavia, Russia, Germany, Sweden, France, England, Netherlands, England, USA, Sudan, Somalia and so on....
Everybody else is responsible. And the common thread of Islam is just a coincidence that applies in a tangential way only sometimes.
So Islamic anti-hindu activities in India started by Hindus destroying a mosque that was built after destroying a temple to one of their most revered religious icons (though not killing any Muslims). Hmmm.... Now where did I read that Muslims have been butchering hindus and destroying their temples for many centuries? Must be something I smoked.
[Different places, different factors. In India, it was triggered by Ayodhya, etc. Same in Palestine. But in UK and Europe, it is a combination of the sense of injustice fuelled by the concept of Umma. ]
That's right - there's a different explanation for every other country - feudal/communist China, Thailand, Myanmar, Indonesia, Malayasia, India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Yugoslavia, Russia, Germany, Sweden, France, England, Netherlands, England, USA, Sudan, Somalia and so on....
Everybody else is responsible. And the common thread of Islam is just a coincidence that applies in a tangential way only sometimes.
So Islamic anti-hindu activities in India started by Hindus destroying a mosque that was built after destroying a temple to one of their most revered religious icons (though not killing any Muslims). Hmmm.... Now where did I read that Muslims have been butchering hindus and destroying their temples for many centuries? Must be something I smoked.
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