Ammara Ahmad July 14, 2008
#125 Posted by Eklavya on July 20, 2008 3:14:24 pm
guru ji, shah ji and I are not the same, but I am an admirer of shah ji.
Without getting into this debate, I would only say - if you or anybody else thinks that Muslims will leave Islam for money, or for jobs, or for security, then they are going to be extremely disappointed. Muslims are not Hindus. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim - in thought, deed, and identity - no matter what.
You probably will convince 2 people in the next 100 years to leave Islam. Muslims have no absolutely no reason to leave Islam at all.
Without getting into this debate, I would only say - if you or anybody else thinks that Muslims will leave Islam for money, or for jobs, or for security, then they are going to be extremely disappointed. Muslims are not Hindus. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim - in thought, deed, and identity - no matter what.
You probably will convince 2 people in the next 100 years to leave Islam. Muslims have no absolutely no reason to leave Islam at all.
#124 Posted by guru on July 20, 2008 3:02:30 pm
Senna,
Are you also eklavya?
"Muslims dont need anything from RSS VHP Jan Sanhgo BJP Bajrangi .They are one of the most honest working earning producing servicing like other such Indians on whose back India is running while you pontify on chowk"
It's a joke. Muslims are even below the lowest of the low mainly because of ghettoisation. Open a crime roaster in big or small city and disproportionately Arabic/Persian names are listed. Why? Because with arabic education there are almost no jobs. Only read esxperience of some on in distant lands, in alien culture and of very old time ie 7th century.
I want to end conversation with you. You can keep your circular arguments to yourself and enjoy your false statistics and history.
Are you also eklavya?
"Muslims dont need anything from RSS VHP Jan Sanhgo BJP Bajrangi .They are one of the most honest working earning producing servicing like other such Indians on whose back India is running while you pontify on chowk"
It's a joke. Muslims are even below the lowest of the low mainly because of ghettoisation. Open a crime roaster in big or small city and disproportionately Arabic/Persian names are listed. Why? Because with arabic education there are almost no jobs. Only read esxperience of some on in distant lands, in alien culture and of very old time ie 7th century.
I want to end conversation with you. You can keep your circular arguments to yourself and enjoy your false statistics and history.
#123 Posted by Senna on July 20, 2008 2:44:25 pm
Re: # 121
Its the poor Hindus who are neumericall in FAR LARGER numbers you should be giving incentive to to get technical english education and not remain bhaiya chole batore walla tempo drivers dhobis living below poverty level
Muslims dont need anything from RSS VHP Jan Sanhgo BJP Bajrangi .They are one of the most honest working earning producing servicing like other such Indians on whose back India is running while you pontify on chowk
we both have times to pass and kill but atleast i THINK about them and not about Sanatan Dharm Sanskrit .You dont own India nor Dharmic nor Maharashtra OR ANYTHING other than your family and property .
Its the poor Hindus who are neumericall in FAR LARGER numbers you should be giving incentive to to get technical english education and not remain bhaiya chole batore walla tempo drivers dhobis living below poverty level
Muslims dont need anything from RSS VHP Jan Sanhgo BJP Bajrangi .They are one of the most honest working earning producing servicing like other such Indians on whose back India is running while you pontify on chowk
we both have times to pass and kill but atleast i THINK about them and not about Sanatan Dharm Sanskrit .You dont own India nor Dharmic nor Maharashtra OR ANYTHING other than your family and property .
#122 Posted by guru on July 20, 2008 2:34:14 pm
Re: # 119"Brit Wrested power from THEM "
You are thoroughly Arabized. British got power mostly from Marathas and Sikhs. In Bengal they got from Muslims.
Senna, you have grown senile. You have internalized Arabization and then Anglofization. YOu are more Arab than Arabs and more Anglo than Anglo. BTW, how did you come to US? Family sponsored?
You are thoroughly Arabized. British got power mostly from Marathas and Sikhs. In Bengal they got from Muslims.
Senna, you have grown senile. You have internalized Arabization and then Anglofization. YOu are more Arab than Arabs and more Anglo than Anglo. BTW, how did you come to US? Family sponsored?
#121 Posted by guru on July 20, 2008 2:28:32 pm
Senna,
You are history! The new resurgent India will take over and is going to implement the solution I am proposing. To save humanity India needs to save itself by making it convenient the poor Abduls and Salmas to revert back to their ancestor's faith and culture. The people who revert can be given finacial incentive.
many people are talking this proposal and planning for it.
You are history! The new resurgent India will take over and is going to implement the solution I am proposing. To save humanity India needs to save itself by making it convenient the poor Abduls and Salmas to revert back to their ancestor's faith and culture. The people who revert can be given finacial incentive.
many people are talking this proposal and planning for it.
#120 Posted by Senna on July 20, 2008 2:27:16 pm
"Come back when you start pronouncing Hindu/Indian names properly'
Its not compulsary in India NOT to go to Englis hMedium School There millions of Indians( Except for cow belt bimaru states ) not spaeke write understand pronounce correctly Hindi Hindu Hindustan And for that matter the north indians have the same challenge and handicap with Tamil Telugu Mallayalam Kannada .Why pick only on indian muslims ???
Its not compulsary in India NOT to go to Englis hMedium School There millions of Indians( Except for cow belt bimaru states ) not spaeke write understand pronounce correctly Hindi Hindu Hindustan And for that matter the north indians have the same challenge and handicap with Tamil Telugu Mallayalam Kannada .Why pick only on indian muslims ???
#119 Posted by Senna on July 20, 2008 2:17:24 pm
Re: # 118
O.K.Talking about sacrifice and sacrificing LIFE who died in Sepoy Mutiny of 1857
Hate to remind you Sikhs And punjabis sided with the British in that attack
Who was with Netaji Shah nawaz How Netaji escaped if not by Muslim smuggling him with muslim clothes trough Afghanistan.
Muslims were the adversary of Muslims (b/c Brit Wrested power from THEM )Who do you think British targetted most ?
Plz dont make Indian MUslims monolithic .Punjabi muslims had there own interest Bengali had there suffering Some got to keep ..Nizam Hyderabad b/c British for some reason befriended him .British also were kind to SOME sikhs .
O.K.Talking about sacrifice and sacrificing LIFE who died in Sepoy Mutiny of 1857
Hate to remind you Sikhs And punjabis sided with the British in that attack
Who was with Netaji Shah nawaz How Netaji escaped if not by Muslim smuggling him with muslim clothes trough Afghanistan.
Muslims were the adversary of Muslims (b/c Brit Wrested power from THEM )Who do you think British targetted most ?
Plz dont make Indian MUslims monolithic .Punjabi muslims had there own interest Bengali had there suffering Some got to keep ..Nizam Hyderabad b/c British for some reason befriended him .British also were kind to SOME sikhs .
#118 Posted by guru on July 20, 2008 2:05:27 pm
"Nazrul Islam Nawab of Murshidabad Syed Aamir Ali Moulana Azad Himayun Kabir ???"
Who are those ayashi, randibaaz fags who sided british? Chain bidi smoker moulana and zakir husain were on the side chit-chating thru letters how Umma will grow after division of India. These fags did not spend a day inprison just like the dracula, the j boy.
By not having clean tranfer of Muslims from India we have a cancer growing within India.
"I read about shivaji I had only elementary education when history was before Shiv Sena"
Come back when you start pronouncing Hindu/Indian names properly.
Who are those ayashi, randibaaz fags who sided british? Chain bidi smoker moulana and zakir husain were on the side chit-chating thru letters how Umma will grow after division of India. These fags did not spend a day inprison just like the dracula, the j boy.
By not having clean tranfer of Muslims from India we have a cancer growing within India.
"I read about shivaji I had only elementary education when history was before Shiv Sena"
Come back when you start pronouncing Hindu/Indian names properly.
#117 Posted by Senna on July 20, 2008 1:55:16 pm
Re: # 116
O.K. imy bad stand corrected and my typo is terrible .But what wanted to convey Viveka Nanda was Never Defending but explainig He never said this came from India or Ayurveda is Mother .He was forward loking rather than back into the past.
I read about shivaji I had only elementary education when history was before Shiv Sena Chatrapati Victoria terminus etc etc .Do you know about netaji Tagore Raja Ram mohan roy Nazrul Islam Nawab of Murshidabad Syed Aamir Ali Moulana Azad Himayun Kabir ???
O.K. imy bad stand corrected and my typo is terrible .But what wanted to convey Viveka Nanda was Never Defending but explainig He never said this came from India or Ayurveda is Mother .He was forward loking rather than back into the past.
I read about shivaji I had only elementary education when history was before Shiv Sena Chatrapati Victoria terminus etc etc .Do you know about netaji Tagore Raja Ram mohan roy Nazrul Islam Nawab of Murshidabad Syed Aamir Ali Moulana Azad Himayun Kabir ???
#116 Posted by guru on July 20, 2008 1:31:06 pm
"
As swami veveka nanda said where the head is held high"
Whom are you fooling?
There is no one with the name "swami veveka nanda"
Swamis are supposed to be Ananda incarnate.
The saying in the quotes is by Tagore. You would know geneology of alien Sienna butr would not know or care to know about Shivaji, the great, Tagor and Swami Vivekananda. That is why I say ther is no alternative for saving India as a community or civilization, but to reduce the Muslim population to zero. This can be elegantly, constitutionally and peacefully done by reserving 100% jobs, educational opportunities and property rights only to Dharmic people.
Let West, China and Russia handle BS and BD. India should make sure that there is no Arabized Muslim living in India.
As swami veveka nanda said where the head is held high"
Whom are you fooling?
There is no one with the name "swami veveka nanda"
Swamis are supposed to be Ananda incarnate.
The saying in the quotes is by Tagore. You would know geneology of alien Sienna butr would not know or care to know about Shivaji, the great, Tagor and Swami Vivekananda. That is why I say ther is no alternative for saving India as a community or civilization, but to reduce the Muslim population to zero. This can be elegantly, constitutionally and peacefully done by reserving 100% jobs, educational opportunities and property rights only to Dharmic people.
Let West, China and Russia handle BS and BD. India should make sure that there is no Arabized Muslim living in India.
#115 Posted by Senna on July 20, 2008 1:20:07 pm
Re: # 113
No problem
U may or May not know i do have hindu Indian nicks too!
No problem
U may or May not know i do have hindu Indian nicks too!
#114 Posted by Senna on July 20, 2008 1:16:32 pm
Malika Sharmili Sharmila ..You advocate killing if there silly thing as name is Abdul Siddique and Not 'Aziz' Premji
Is death comminsurate punishment for regional varion of JI and Siddiqui in Another .Be fair .More over a baby does not give a name to himself .
So Western medicine Unani Hakimi Took ayurved .No body is denying contributions .I am of the proponent all humans are equal .Brain Intelligence is not Confined to any race .Only Racist believe that.White thaught blacks were less .
As swami veveka nanda said where the head is held high
and gandhi said let the wind of outside breathe in for ideas to flow in . Arabic French Greek
Is death comminsurate punishment for regional varion of JI and Siddiqui in Another .Be fair .More over a baby does not give a name to himself .
So Western medicine Unani Hakimi Took ayurved .No body is denying contributions .I am of the proponent all humans are equal .Brain Intelligence is not Confined to any race .Only Racist believe that.White thaught blacks were less .
As swami veveka nanda said where the head is held high
and gandhi said let the wind of outside breathe in for ideas to flow in . Arabic French Greek
#112 Posted by guru on July 20, 2008 1:10:52 pm
Re: # 111 Your mumbi jumbo about synthesis and syncre...
needs little more explaination. Pl do so.
"Any truly ISI agent terrorist be punished fairly just like Naxals Maoist Bodoland Ranvers sena .Treat blast like Crime
not witch hunt of Indian muslims."
It's a fact that the base of ISI is IMs. For common folks it is Muslims who cause trouble whether in Godhra, Mumbai, Akshar dham, Sankat Mochan or Jaipur. India needs to first make its own house clean before tackling ISI/Pakistan. We are asking this small sacrifice of giving up Muslim/Islamic identity so that together we can handle Pakistan.
Start with you, Senna becoming Charak. Words are cheap and we have precedence of taqiya.
needs little more explaination. Pl do so.
"Any truly ISI agent terrorist be punished fairly just like Naxals Maoist Bodoland Ranvers sena .Treat blast like Crime
not witch hunt of Indian muslims."
It's a fact that the base of ISI is IMs. For common folks it is Muslims who cause trouble whether in Godhra, Mumbai, Akshar dham, Sankat Mochan or Jaipur. India needs to first make its own house clean before tackling ISI/Pakistan. We are asking this small sacrifice of giving up Muslim/Islamic identity so that together we can handle Pakistan.
Start with you, Senna becoming Charak. Words are cheap and we have precedence of taqiya.
#111 Posted by Senna on July 20, 2008 1:00:32 pm
Re: # 105
that if India becomes one community like China but allowing diversity of ideas
Ideology though can be named capitaism communism its actually anonymous.You can plagarise copy incorporate ideas and not even acknowledge or give credit to.Already Bengals BrahmoSamajaryaSamaj Widow marriage treatment of women castless ness was admiringly seen by bhadrolok bengali and atempted tp propogate endorse suport by raja ranm mohan rabindro nath and even Swami Veveka nanda .Its all been done .
Regarding China thank god we all dont look alike pale yellow momgoloid to be considered one community .Yes idea of india is synthesis syncriticism
"Re: # 101 1993 blasts Konkani Muslim Dawood with ISI/Pakistani provided RDXs and detonators"
As i said before your nemesis is Pakistan
Any truly ISI agent terrorist be punished fairly just like Naxals Maoist Bodoland Ranvers sena .Treat blast like Crime
not witch hunt of Indian muslims.
that if India becomes one community like China but allowing diversity of ideas
Ideology though can be named capitaism communism its actually anonymous.You can plagarise copy incorporate ideas and not even acknowledge or give credit to.Already Bengals BrahmoSamajaryaSamaj Widow marriage treatment of women castless ness was admiringly seen by bhadrolok bengali and atempted tp propogate endorse suport by raja ranm mohan rabindro nath and even Swami Veveka nanda .Its all been done .
Regarding China thank god we all dont look alike pale yellow momgoloid to be considered one community .Yes idea of india is synthesis syncriticism
"Re: # 101 1993 blasts Konkani Muslim Dawood with ISI/Pakistani provided RDXs and detonators"
As i said before your nemesis is Pakistan
Any truly ISI agent terrorist be punished fairly just like Naxals Maoist Bodoland Ranvers sena .Treat blast like Crime
not witch hunt of Indian muslims.
#110 Posted by guru on July 20, 2008 12:55:09 pm
Go to any Ayurveds dispensary in Mumbai and Pune you will see lot of Burkha ladies. Husband of one of such lady told me that Ayurveda is mother/father of Unani medicine.
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