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An Ode Called Amritsar

Ammara Ahmad July 14, 2008

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#1 Posted by BJ2 on July 15, 2008 4:20:27 am
Ammara, a nice read!
Warm regards,
BJ2
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#2 Posted by tahir on July 15, 2008 5:13:56 am
Miss Ahmad (a good girl according to the minorty's standard),

Mentioning Freud will bring dead psycholgists back to life in Toronto, and provide solace to the godless Nietzscheans of Down-Under.

Regards.
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#3 Posted by akcheema on July 15, 2008 5:52:54 am
Hello my asadite heretic friend!
By all accords, you are no less a minority sir
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#4 Posted by tahir on July 15, 2008 6:00:34 am
A godless Nietzschean from 'down-with-your-underwear' has identified himself correctly by replying to post #2!

See what I mean Miss Ahmad?
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#5 Posted by akcheema on July 15, 2008 6:02:34 am
Re: # 4; asadite heretic sir

I see it has made you a happy man sir!

we aim to please
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#6 Posted by akcheema on July 15, 2008 6:06:20 am
Re: # 5

now tahir mian, a lot of hindus have infiltrated this place I can tell you. Quite frankly, I am glad you are back from wherever you went to sort them out

see, even your asadite heresy is better than what they seem to be offering the public
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#7 Posted by Publius on July 15, 2008 6:39:59 am
Before the partition, people used to commute daily from Amritsar to Lahore and vice versa, so close were these two cities.

Did you try the famous eatries in Amritsar ?
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#8 Posted by dost_mittar on July 15, 2008 7:10:14 am
Hi ammara:

Glad you enjoyed Amritsar and found the Gurudwara soothing. Next time, take your Mom with you. She will enjoy it even if her child home is not there. I know!
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#9 Posted by zeemax on July 15, 2008 8:05:48 am
#8 Posted by dost_mittar,

Are you from Amritsar?
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#10 Posted by dost_mittar on July 15, 2008 8:34:06 am
zeemax:

No, but I know how it feels to visit a city of your childhood from which you were separated.
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#11 Posted by delhiwala on July 15, 2008 8:45:57 am
I can write same about Lahore and Kohalla and Quetta and the Mohalla named after my Grandfather and the Masjid that a Sikh Thekdar build in Kohalla Hills....
But you people only thnk of your side of the story.
Haah Jee Muslims never killed any Sikhs....
It was only Sikhs killing innocent Muslims....

Did you ever ask your grandfather about the loot from 5 milion Sikhs in Lahore Tehsil and the rape of Sikh woman as per the proper kosher Arabian rituals of the conquered people.
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#12 Posted by Studebaker07 on July 15, 2008 10:33:09 am
"feeling that compelled the Emperor Akbar to gift land and revenue to the Guru’s daughter on her marriage, which helped expand the town."

And what about Dhimmitude i her day in day out by Laddu
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#13 Posted by laddu on July 15, 2008 10:37:07 pm
"...gold of the temple is alluring..."

do you mean to say it is alluring to momeens like you???

Aank utha kar bhi mat dekhna......... nikal denge hum!!
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#14 Posted by laddu on July 15, 2008 11:05:01 pm
Sultana Begum, Great Granddaughter-in-Law of Bahadur Shah Zafar - the Last Moghul

She sought divine forgiveness for atrocities committed by Mughals on Hindus and Sikhs, at the Golden Temple.

Moved by the tales, and pictures, of Sikh gurus being brutally chastised by Muhgals, Sultana Begum, who runs a tea stall on a footpath of Howrah and receives a paltry pension of Rs 400, undertook a pilgrimage to Amritsar after she received a financial assistance of Rs 50,000 from Swami Chinmayanand, ex-union minister of state for home affairs.
Zafar in his last days The stone at Zafar's grave

"I have come to Amritsar to seek atonement for the sins of my husband's forefathers," Sultana told TNN.

"This morning I went to the Golden Temple and sought pardon from the Almighty for my ancestors' sins and atrocities," she said. She also visited Durgiana Temple here and the dargah of Hazrat Ali Shah at Najibabad in UP for the same purpose.

"Mughal emperors Aurangzeb and Jahangir unleashed terror not only on Sikhs and Hindus but also on Muslims. That's why I went to temples and mosques," Sultana said. She wept on seeing pictures of Sikh gurus undergoing punishment inflicted by Mughals at the Central Sikh Museum. "How can anyone forget that Guru Arjan Dev was burnt on a frying pan during Jahangir's time and the two sahibzadas of Guru Gobind Singh, last Sikh guru, were killed by Aurangzeb? Islam does not permit cruelty against anyone," she said.

"The sins of my husband's forefathers have brought misery upon me. I belong to a royal family, but see the pathetic condition I am in, barely able to manage two meals a day," she said.

Mother of five daughters and a son Muzaffar Kamal, who is a cook in Saudi Arabia, Sultana said political leaders like Chinmaynand, Mamata Banerji, Tapan Sikdar, Tathagata Roy had visited her dingy hut at Foreshore Road, Howrah, "but only Chinmayanandji gave me financial assistance".
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#15 Posted by laddu on July 15, 2008 11:12:07 pm
Originally built during 1574 AD, the site of the temple was surrounded by a small lake in a thin forest. The third of the six grand Mughals, emperor Akbar, who visited the third Sikh Guru, Guru Amar Das, at the neighbouring town of Goindval was so impressed by the way of life in the town that he gave a jagir (the land and the revenues of several villages in the vicinity) to the Guru's daughter Bhani as a gift on her marriage to Bhai Jetha, who later became the fourth Sikh Guru, Guru Ram Das. Guru Ram Das enlarged the lake and built a small township around it. The town was named after Guru Ram Das as "Guru Ka Chak", "Chak Ram Das" or "Ram Das Pura".

During the leadership of the fifth Guru, Guru Arjan Dev (1581-1606), the full-fledged Temple was built.


This is what Emperor Jahangir wrote in his diary called the Tuzk-e-Jahangiri, which translates to "Memoirs of Jahangir"


“ In Goindwal, which is on the river Biyãh (Beas), there was a Hindu named Arjan, in the garments of sainthood and sanctity, so much so that he had captured many of the simple-hearted of the Hindus, and even of the ignorant and foolish followers of Islam, by his ways and manners, and they had loudly sounded the drum of his holiness. They called him Guru, and from all sides stupid people crowded to worship and manifest complete faith in him. For three or four generations (of spiritual successors) they had kept this shop warm. Many times it occurred to me to put a stop to this vain affair or to bring him into the assembly of the people of Islam.

At last when Khusrau passed along this road this insignificant fellow proposed to wait upon him. Khusrau happened to halt at the place where he was, and he came out and did homage to him. He behaved to Khusrau in certain special ways, and made on his forehead a finger-mark in saffron, which the Indians (Hinduwän) call qashqa, (Tilak) and is considered propitious. When this came to my ears and I clearly understood his folly, I ordered them to produce him and handed over his houses, dwelling-places, and children to Murtaza Khan, and having confiscated his property commanded that he should be put to death."
„
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#16 Posted by tahir on July 16, 2008 12:06:17 am
Oye Laddu,

What do you want the Muslims to admit; responsibility for the Holocaust, seek forgiveness from the J-people?

Stop flogging a dead horse. All sinners (whether in their graves or alive) will surely stand accused in Allah's court of justice. THIS is what we believe as Muslims. No matter how much you roll on the floor like a toddler, nobody is going to say what you want them say.

Well, those who are sick of your accusations and Islam-bashing, just might metaphorically say, 'Baba, mu'aaf karo'.

And when you hear THAT, go away like a satisfied 'derwish' and never beg for more apologies.
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