Ahmer Muzammil July 17, 2008
#61 Posted by masadi on July 26, 2008 2:35:39 am
In the right wing loons discription of our world they consider everyone "equal in power and allowed to compete freely based on objective rules", what makes the third world people fail according to their fairy tale state of affairs is their inferior nature, too much corruption, their own faults etc....needed to make this clarification because this 'right wing loon' anil might try to make a point that I said "equal" and "inferior" in the same sentence! Yes, their ability at comprehension is quite low too...
#60 Posted by masadi on July 26, 2008 2:32:08 am
Btw, no present day sociologist has come even close to describing what the current power structure of the US is without relying on Mills, and his 1950s book; other than right wing loons that push the argument that it is free for all,everyone is equal and competes freely (they are going even further back to Adam Smith's time, and here you complain of the 1950s!) third world people are inferior and technology will save all as the US carries its banner of freedom (and military bases) around the globe....You remain clueless like they do...
#59 Posted by masadi on July 26, 2008 1:56:02 am
Anil don't hide behind banal excuses and slogans of technology, to support censorship of the Chowk Staff variety. You do it becuase the facts stump you, and you cannot handle the truth when it busts the BS you spew here. Check the ilogs, everyone who has posted after me has appeared on the FP but my post. Is that coincidence, day after day? I think not....
#58 Posted by anil on July 25, 2008 11:32:14 pm
Re: # 57
Massaddi Mian:
Please do not be a cry-baby. Write sensibly, you like all of us are going to spend all of your life in the future, and solutions for future will be not based on something that you recycle from 7th century and Mills. I had heard these in 70s when I was student during the Vietnam War days. Sociological challenges are more, you could put your nonsense here through technology. In the past you have just taught in a village school or college and that is where supporters and critiques to your nonsense would have come from, now it is global.
Don't you understand its impact of sociological changes? Please quit being a cry-baby.
Massaddi Mian:
Please do not be a cry-baby. Write sensibly, you like all of us are going to spend all of your life in the future, and solutions for future will be not based on something that you recycle from 7th century and Mills. I had heard these in 70s when I was student during the Vietnam War days. Sociological challenges are more, you could put your nonsense here through technology. In the past you have just taught in a village school or college and that is where supporters and critiques to your nonsense would have come from, now it is global.
Don't you understand its impact of sociological changes? Please quit being a cry-baby.
#57 Posted by masadi on July 25, 2008 10:53:53 pm
An ilog I posted yesterday has been reposted to counter chowk staff censorship of my ilogs. Unlike everyones ilog mine never goes to the FP, except much later after it has been filtered by chowk staff. This particular one didn't make it, even though those that post after me immediately go to the FP. Chowk members need to take action against such censorship of interacts, ilogs and articles and don't let the Hindu bigots, the CIA and Pakistan Army types overtake this site....
#56 Posted by masadi on July 25, 2008 10:43:31 pm
....not to mention how they enrich themselves by sucking on the blood of the people of this nation, more than any civilian can even imagine in their wildest rampage in politics....
#55 Posted by masadi on July 25, 2008 10:41:30 pm
Matloob Zaman writes "In my humble opinion we have been blessed by so much in Pakistan that if we just began to look towards each other with a love that should exist in brotherhood I believe that our problems will simply go away.
Best wishes "
The opinion is not humble but highly deceptive. Using the "L" word to cover up the barbarism of the Pakistan Army's policies is similar to the US using the "Freedom" slogan to entrap the world in the worst bondage in human history. Never love your oppressors, those that have converted this "beautiful land" into a social and economic graveyard. Matloob Zaman's post is nothing more than Pakistan Army apologietics, presented in their classic double speak, Western propaganda style- the "beauty" of this land to these people are those 84% that live below subsistence, the 50% that are food insecure, one of the highest rates of infant mortality and illiteracy in the world....these are the things these people have constructed, and that is the "beauty" they want to maintain...
Best wishes "
The opinion is not humble but highly deceptive. Using the "L" word to cover up the barbarism of the Pakistan Army's policies is similar to the US using the "Freedom" slogan to entrap the world in the worst bondage in human history. Never love your oppressors, those that have converted this "beautiful land" into a social and economic graveyard. Matloob Zaman's post is nothing more than Pakistan Army apologietics, presented in their classic double speak, Western propaganda style- the "beauty" of this land to these people are those 84% that live below subsistence, the 50% that are food insecure, one of the highest rates of infant mortality and illiteracy in the world....these are the things these people have constructed, and that is the "beauty" they want to maintain...
#54 Posted by masadi on July 25, 2008 10:26:47 pm
In addition to #53, Quaid e Awam was ZAB, not the charlatan from London, who is hated outside of a city and had no national support, not even the full support of the city that is his power base....
#53 Posted by masadi on July 25, 2008 10:22:52 pm
Madani Sahib, Dubai is still closer to Pakistan than London, and supporting the dictator/US is similar if one happens to be "zero" or your "hero". Charity work does not alter the deprivation producing structure. The US does a lot of "charity" work through its corporate foundations as well. Setting up a blood bank is a smokescreen when you suck on the blood of a city and its people.....After being responsible, through its policies of taking food out of the mouths of the tens of millions in the developing countries, the US provides "USA Wheat" too with much fanfare. Political point scoring and masking BS is what this news item shows. Please get beyond ethnicity or you'll never be able to see right and wrong clearly...
#52 Posted by ahmedmadani on July 25, 2008 7:43:04 pm
MQM chief Quaid E Awam Altaf Hussain style politics. ( compare mr. Zero is going to Dubai)
MQM believes in serving humanity, says senator
Saturday, July 26, 2008
LARKANA: The Chairman Senate Standing Committee on Housing, Works and Environment, Senator Dr Muhammad Ali Brohi, on Friday inaugurated the newly-constructed building of the central laboratory and blood bank in the Chandka Medical College (CMC) Hospital, City Block, Larkana.
The building has been constructed at a cost of Rs 2.5 million from the fund of the senator and under the directives of MQM chief Altaf Hussain. Addressing the inaugural ceremony of the blood bank building, Brohi said the MQM believes in providing service to the ailing humanity without any discrimination.
He said Rs 10 million were being spent for the completion of a thalassaemia centre on the first floor of this building by September 30. Brohi said all the requirements/furniture needed for the blood bank would be provided through the Health Department and he would try his best to get the funds approved in this regard.
He requested the CMC Hospital medical superintendent to prepare a list of requirements/furniture so that funds might be approved accordingly. He said the blood bank would prove a gift for the people of Larkana, upper Sindh area and some parts of Balochistan. He added the MQM believes in implementation of projects in order to resolve the problems of the poor people at their doorstep. Brohi thanked CMC Principal Professor Sikandar Ali Shaikh, CMC Hospital MS Dr Syed Mehboob Ali Shah, party workers and other participants, who attended the inaugural ceremony.
On the occasion, Professor Shaikh appreciated the efforts of MQM chief Altaf Hussain and Senator Brohi for establishing the blood bank which, he said, was the need of the hour. He added that the poor patients would benefit from this blood bank. Dr Shah also appreciated the efforts of Senator Brohi for establishing the blood bank. He said some equipment were purchased when the building was handed over to the hospital administration.
The hospital equipment would be utilised accordingly and the list of the remaining requirements in this regard would also be given to Senator Brohi for further approval. On the occasion, laboratory in-charge Dr Ghulam Shabbir Shaikh and MQM zonal In-charge Aftab Ahmed Soomro paid rich tribute to Altaf Hussain and appreciated the efforts of Senator Brohi for establishing the blood bank.
We should demand MQM style poltics, people serving business.
Thank you Mr.Hussain
MQM believes in serving humanity, says senator
Saturday, July 26, 2008
LARKANA: The Chairman Senate Standing Committee on Housing, Works and Environment, Senator Dr Muhammad Ali Brohi, on Friday inaugurated the newly-constructed building of the central laboratory and blood bank in the Chandka Medical College (CMC) Hospital, City Block, Larkana.
The building has been constructed at a cost of Rs 2.5 million from the fund of the senator and under the directives of MQM chief Altaf Hussain. Addressing the inaugural ceremony of the blood bank building, Brohi said the MQM believes in providing service to the ailing humanity without any discrimination.
He said Rs 10 million were being spent for the completion of a thalassaemia centre on the first floor of this building by September 30. Brohi said all the requirements/furniture needed for the blood bank would be provided through the Health Department and he would try his best to get the funds approved in this regard.
He requested the CMC Hospital medical superintendent to prepare a list of requirements/furniture so that funds might be approved accordingly. He said the blood bank would prove a gift for the people of Larkana, upper Sindh area and some parts of Balochistan. He added the MQM believes in implementation of projects in order to resolve the problems of the poor people at their doorstep. Brohi thanked CMC Principal Professor Sikandar Ali Shaikh, CMC Hospital MS Dr Syed Mehboob Ali Shah, party workers and other participants, who attended the inaugural ceremony.
On the occasion, Professor Shaikh appreciated the efforts of MQM chief Altaf Hussain and Senator Brohi for establishing the blood bank which, he said, was the need of the hour. He added that the poor patients would benefit from this blood bank. Dr Shah also appreciated the efforts of Senator Brohi for establishing the blood bank. He said some equipment were purchased when the building was handed over to the hospital administration.
The hospital equipment would be utilised accordingly and the list of the remaining requirements in this regard would also be given to Senator Brohi for further approval. On the occasion, laboratory in-charge Dr Ghulam Shabbir Shaikh and MQM zonal In-charge Aftab Ahmed Soomro paid rich tribute to Altaf Hussain and appreciated the efforts of Senator Brohi for establishing the blood bank.
We should demand MQM style poltics, people serving business.
Thank you Mr.Hussain
#51 Posted by tahir on July 25, 2008 1:38:06 am
Re: # 50 Zee-to-the-Max
"are getting hoarse appealing everyday to the common Karachi Citizens to form 'Civil Defence Committees' against encroaching Talibanisation."
By this 'Taliban' label they mean the average Pathan whom they gladly employ to mend their shoes by the roadsides, guard their fancy houses, and drive their cars.
"are getting hoarse appealing everyday to the common Karachi Citizens to form 'Civil Defence Committees' against encroaching Talibanisation."
By this 'Taliban' label they mean the average Pathan whom they gladly employ to mend their shoes by the roadsides, guard their fancy houses, and drive their cars.
#50 Posted by zeemax on July 24, 2008 11:58:23 pm
#49 Posted by MatloobZaman,
... if we just began to look towards each other with a love that should exist in brotherhood I believe that our problems will simply go away.
Very noble thoughts indeed, but not in deed!
For a start, you should ask your MQM to stop claiming Karachi as 'Our City', and stop killing innocent people because they don't want a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to enter Karachi. Only then, anyone in the other areas of Pakistan like the North you mention will believe you.
In any event, this 'our city' claim becomes even more ludicrous when now the same people who proudly claim the ability to shut down Karachi in a day with their thugs, and use that threat as leverage to extract political benefits from the majority parties at both the Federal and Provincial level, are getting hoarse appealing everyday to the common Karachi Citizens to form 'Civil Defence Committees' against encroaching Talibanisation.
What? Unbelievable!
Is it that the Black Tigers who can shut down Karachi in one day, cannot defend the Karachi Citizens against some rag tag tribal mullahs? The citizens will need to do it themselves this time around?
... if we just began to look towards each other with a love that should exist in brotherhood I believe that our problems will simply go away.
Very noble thoughts indeed, but not in deed!
For a start, you should ask your MQM to stop claiming Karachi as 'Our City', and stop killing innocent people because they don't want a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to enter Karachi. Only then, anyone in the other areas of Pakistan like the North you mention will believe you.
In any event, this 'our city' claim becomes even more ludicrous when now the same people who proudly claim the ability to shut down Karachi in a day with their thugs, and use that threat as leverage to extract political benefits from the majority parties at both the Federal and Provincial level, are getting hoarse appealing everyday to the common Karachi Citizens to form 'Civil Defence Committees' against encroaching Talibanisation.
What? Unbelievable!
Is it that the Black Tigers who can shut down Karachi in one day, cannot defend the Karachi Citizens against some rag tag tribal mullahs? The citizens will need to do it themselves this time around?
#49 Posted by MatloobZaman on July 24, 2008 4:10:15 pm
Re: # 40
Be patient I don't want to play illegitimate numbers game, what you read so far is a way beyond moderate and modest reporting by those who were not at ground zero, as I said that figure is a rounded figure and hope that not as many people lost their lives, however, one must remember that the count of deaths comes from accountable remains, as far as missing are concerned they are not outright accounted for as dead at least that is what most administrations around the world follow. If there was a mass grave located then the remains recovered would be accounted for.
In as much as 70% argument is concerned, I am not the type who chooses to mention about the favors that are extended towards brotherhood, even if Karachi provided 70% I find it out of place to mention repeat or insist upon it, if Karachi did they did not do it for anyone "ghair" they did it for their own Pakistani brothers who has just as much right on any part or jurisdiction of Pakistan as Karachites, at least that is what I have learned. What I know is Karachi played a major role in providing for the economy of Pakistan and it is a source of contentment for me that whatever we the Karachites were able to contribute to the wealth of our nation for our Pakistani brothers regardless of what ethnicity or region they may belong to.
Yes, Karachi is my city and its yours too regardless of where you come from in Pakistan.
I remember the days when we used to receive heads of states from all over the world one after another, personally I had the pleasure of welcoming Queen Elizabeth, Lindon B. Johnson, Charles deGaulle, Jamal Gursal, Ahmed Sukarno, Suharto, Faisal Ibn Abdul Aziz Al Saud, Chu En Lai, Liu Chau Chi, J. F. Kennedy, Dwight David Eisenhower, Abu Bakar Dabelo, Ahemd Reza Shah Pehalavi and countless more each arriving at Karachi and introduced to the industry of Pakistan then centralized in Karachi.
All Pakistanis regardless of their ethnic & regional attachments should take pride all things about Pakistan.
When I see the documentaries of Pakistan's north & west its nothing less than a fairyland I personally compare it to Switzerland and take absolute pride in all that Pakistan has been blessed with. Exchanging a greeting and a smile does not take much except bringing two closer. Not meaning to impose my belief on anyone but according to mine when one sees someone flourishing and in a good shape, status or wealth one instead of envying and having a feeling of jealousy if they feel good about something that they see one should quietly seek alike from their creator( pardon me from bringing the faith in this discussion but it's built in my nature & I hope it does not offend you in any manner).
In my humble opinion we have been blessed by so much in Pakistan that if we just began to look towards each other with a love that should exist in brotherhood I believe that our problems will simply go away.
Best wishes
Be patient I don't want to play illegitimate numbers game, what you read so far is a way beyond moderate and modest reporting by those who were not at ground zero, as I said that figure is a rounded figure and hope that not as many people lost their lives, however, one must remember that the count of deaths comes from accountable remains, as far as missing are concerned they are not outright accounted for as dead at least that is what most administrations around the world follow. If there was a mass grave located then the remains recovered would be accounted for.
In as much as 70% argument is concerned, I am not the type who chooses to mention about the favors that are extended towards brotherhood, even if Karachi provided 70% I find it out of place to mention repeat or insist upon it, if Karachi did they did not do it for anyone "ghair" they did it for their own Pakistani brothers who has just as much right on any part or jurisdiction of Pakistan as Karachites, at least that is what I have learned. What I know is Karachi played a major role in providing for the economy of Pakistan and it is a source of contentment for me that whatever we the Karachites were able to contribute to the wealth of our nation for our Pakistani brothers regardless of what ethnicity or region they may belong to.
Yes, Karachi is my city and its yours too regardless of where you come from in Pakistan.
I remember the days when we used to receive heads of states from all over the world one after another, personally I had the pleasure of welcoming Queen Elizabeth, Lindon B. Johnson, Charles deGaulle, Jamal Gursal, Ahmed Sukarno, Suharto, Faisal Ibn Abdul Aziz Al Saud, Chu En Lai, Liu Chau Chi, J. F. Kennedy, Dwight David Eisenhower, Abu Bakar Dabelo, Ahemd Reza Shah Pehalavi and countless more each arriving at Karachi and introduced to the industry of Pakistan then centralized in Karachi.
All Pakistanis regardless of their ethnic & regional attachments should take pride all things about Pakistan.
When I see the documentaries of Pakistan's north & west its nothing less than a fairyland I personally compare it to Switzerland and take absolute pride in all that Pakistan has been blessed with. Exchanging a greeting and a smile does not take much except bringing two closer. Not meaning to impose my belief on anyone but according to mine when one sees someone flourishing and in a good shape, status or wealth one instead of envying and having a feeling of jealousy if they feel good about something that they see one should quietly seek alike from their creator( pardon me from bringing the faith in this discussion but it's built in my nature & I hope it does not offend you in any manner).
In my humble opinion we have been blessed by so much in Pakistan that if we just began to look towards each other with a love that should exist in brotherhood I believe that our problems will simply go away.
Best wishes
#48 Posted by Afat on July 24, 2008 9:54:43 am
Hum loog apnay app hi ko dhoka deynay kay liyee apnay aap hi say jhoot boltey heen.
#47 Posted by slider. on July 24, 2008 9:19:31 am
#31 Posted by hassansiddiqi
"I am a proud MQM supporter"
Is it true that Altaph bai's soiled underwears (or pieces thereof) are Fedexed (in tamper proof packaging) to all MQM units where proud supporters inhale the aroma and rub'em with their eyes for sawab and barakaat?
It is also believed by proud supporters (who have also saw his mubarak shabeeh on a leaf and in the moon) that rubbing those with your eyes fortifies your eyesight?
"I am a proud MQM supporter"
Is it true that Altaph bai's soiled underwears (or pieces thereof) are Fedexed (in tamper proof packaging) to all MQM units where proud supporters inhale the aroma and rub'em with their eyes for sawab and barakaat?
It is also believed by proud supporters (who have also saw his mubarak shabeeh on a leaf and in the moon) that rubbing those with your eyes fortifies your eyesight?
#46 Posted by rf786 on July 24, 2008 6:00:29 am
Re: # 42
{You claimed 70% of Revenue. And that's the banner claim of MQM as well which was my point, so I don't blame you.}
Zee payee
Not true, you have taken a position and refuse to accept otherwise, no problem. As for MQM, I am not their spokeperson thus this argument is also inadmissable.
{You claimed 70% of Revenue. And that's the banner claim of MQM as well which was my point, so I don't blame you.}
Zee payee
Not true, you have taken a position and refuse to accept otherwise, no problem. As for MQM, I am not their spokeperson thus this argument is also inadmissable.
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