Ahmer Muzammil July 17, 2008
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#27 Posted by jayp on July 23, 2008 1:14:58 am
Run zardari run, run bhutto run.
The jihadis are knocking at the gates of karachi, the jihadis from fata are moving in.
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Asif’s chief security officer gunned down in Karachi
By Tahir Siddiqui
KARACHI, July 22: Khalid Shahanshah, the chief security officer of PPP co-chairperson Asif Ali Zardari, was assassinated on Tuesday afternoon outside his Clifton residence, police and witnesses said.
They said that gunmen on a white car sprayed him with a volley of bullets while he was stepping off his double-cabin vehicle in front of his house at Khyaban-i-Bukhari.
#26 Posted by MatloobZaman on July 22, 2008 8:56:04 pm
Re: # 9
"cannot never" in the same sentence = Ever and Always, but what is so threatening about MQM if it is so weak, why should everyone be so concerned to challenge the existence of MQM every moment of the day and every step of the way.
Karachi has been victimized alright in all manners and by everyone who comes with the aspiration "mein shehr jaraya haan", no one was turned back or discouraged from this land of opportunity.
MQM was there, will be there with or without Musharaf.
It was the victimization of the Karachites that brought about the creation of MQM; the masacre of Orangi Town, the drug trafficking and marketing of Sohrab Goth open air drug market and the cafe of you know what? Sohrab Goth. aka Bara aka "illaqa ghair" as in FATA and a lot more to the list.
A refuge for murderers and criminals, bus drivers involved in fatal crashes sought refuge there, kidnappers and hijackers paradise and a lot more.
MQM picked up arms when criminals from other parts of Pakistan established their ghettos and began ransacking Karachi and challenging Karachites with automatic weapons.
Those who do not know the reason for the birth of MQM should first educate themselves on the history extending into early 80's and if they are sincere in their approach they will find the answers since, MQM is charged with returning in kind to those who aspire to destroy Karachi and it's citizens.
Those who envy the development of Karachi forget that it is a major city of Pakistan among others not to mention if (and a BIG if) an honest census like survey is conducted, majority of the people working in Karachi are not originally from Karachi, the transporters, factory workers, cobblers, carpenters, the police force, skilled and unskilled labor found in Karachi is ethnically from other regions of Pakistan and they have always gained from Karachi not lost anything, so why envy the progress of Karachi? instead of taking pride in their participation and contribution towards the progress of Karachi.
It would be another thing if any of such people who became economic refugees in Karachi seek to displace based on their hatred and aspirations to take over.
MQM has legitimate reasons to establish as an organization, it has sincere intentions towards the progress and upkeep of Karachi, this should not pose any threat to anyone, however if challenged with power it is prepared to face it with equal and opposite reaction although would like to avoid any such perpetration.
"cannot never" in the same sentence = Ever and Always, but what is so threatening about MQM if it is so weak, why should everyone be so concerned to challenge the existence of MQM every moment of the day and every step of the way.
Karachi has been victimized alright in all manners and by everyone who comes with the aspiration "mein shehr jaraya haan", no one was turned back or discouraged from this land of opportunity.
MQM was there, will be there with or without Musharaf.
It was the victimization of the Karachites that brought about the creation of MQM; the masacre of Orangi Town, the drug trafficking and marketing of Sohrab Goth open air drug market and the cafe of you know what? Sohrab Goth. aka Bara aka "illaqa ghair" as in FATA and a lot more to the list.
A refuge for murderers and criminals, bus drivers involved in fatal crashes sought refuge there, kidnappers and hijackers paradise and a lot more.
MQM picked up arms when criminals from other parts of Pakistan established their ghettos and began ransacking Karachi and challenging Karachites with automatic weapons.
Those who do not know the reason for the birth of MQM should first educate themselves on the history extending into early 80's and if they are sincere in their approach they will find the answers since, MQM is charged with returning in kind to those who aspire to destroy Karachi and it's citizens.
Those who envy the development of Karachi forget that it is a major city of Pakistan among others not to mention if (and a BIG if) an honest census like survey is conducted, majority of the people working in Karachi are not originally from Karachi, the transporters, factory workers, cobblers, carpenters, the police force, skilled and unskilled labor found in Karachi is ethnically from other regions of Pakistan and they have always gained from Karachi not lost anything, so why envy the progress of Karachi? instead of taking pride in their participation and contribution towards the progress of Karachi.
It would be another thing if any of such people who became economic refugees in Karachi seek to displace based on their hatred and aspirations to take over.
MQM has legitimate reasons to establish as an organization, it has sincere intentions towards the progress and upkeep of Karachi, this should not pose any threat to anyone, however if challenged with power it is prepared to face it with equal and opposite reaction although would like to avoid any such perpetration.
#25 Posted by MatloobZaman on July 22, 2008 8:28:21 pm
Re: # 4
Sharifs modernized Punjab with (Airports, Highways, Irrigation, Education, Health, Police) Projects etc. etc. etc.
Nothing happened in the last 8-9 years while they were vacationing in the Saudi palaces.
Sounds like a round of Such Gup as per Shoaib Hashmi
Sharifs modernized Punjab with (Airports, Highways, Irrigation, Education, Health, Police) Projects etc. etc. etc.
Nothing happened in the last 8-9 years while they were vacationing in the Saudi palaces.
Sounds like a round of Such Gup as per Shoaib Hashmi
#24 Posted by MatloobZaman on July 22, 2008 8:25:11 pm
Re: # 3Jayp
This proves that Indians are the ones who are harboring terrorists.
You seem to know a lot about them terrorist errorists!!
Tell us more about the plans.
This proves that Indians are the ones who are harboring terrorists.
You seem to know a lot about them terrorist errorists!!
Tell us more about the plans.
#23 Posted by MatloobZaman on July 22, 2008 7:55:16 pm
Re: # 5 fkureshy
Mr. Kureshy, we the Pakistanis get tired of each and every one who is in power for over five years.
We admire the hoopla of election campaigns and the consequent circulation of wealth it brings, to "some".
We anticipate that if our buddy gets elected we will be able to do all that we did not even dream in our lives before, be it against the laws if there are any.
It is worthy to consider limiting the power to one five year term, so that we can have a new govt in power every five, this way we will never be out of transitions and all those who speculate personal benefit shall thrive too.
Mr. Kureshy, we the Pakistanis get tired of each and every one who is in power for over five years.
We admire the hoopla of election campaigns and the consequent circulation of wealth it brings, to "some".
We anticipate that if our buddy gets elected we will be able to do all that we did not even dream in our lives before, be it against the laws if there are any.
It is worthy to consider limiting the power to one five year term, so that we can have a new govt in power every five, this way we will never be out of transitions and all those who speculate personal benefit shall thrive too.
#22 Posted by MatloobZaman on July 22, 2008 7:45:53 pm
Re: # 20
Come on now Rangeela jee, these typos and spellbound spell checks do happen!
Come on now Rangeela jee, these typos and spellbound spell checks do happen!
#21 Posted by MatloobZaman on July 22, 2008 7:44:19 pm
In as much as dragging Fatima Jinnah into petty politics of Pakistan is concerned that was the most dishonoring act of those who brought her to an arena where she did not belong; and then those miscreants who used to display the lantern such as Ali Kausar of Peeli-Bheet Lalu-Khet, Ali Mukhtar Rizvi and many others were well known ghundas/hoodlums of the given era who were responsible for all that took place in the aftermath back then.
(Late)Mustafa Zaidi also said:
in he patharoan pay chal kay agar aa'sako tou aao
meray ghar kay rastay mein koi kehkashan nahin haye
Yeah I do believe it is his poetry and verse, not Shehnaz Gul's(the once air-hostess who was the prime suspect of his cold blooded murder).
Regarding Chaudhry Iftikhar the Ex-CJ of SCP, how evident it is that he is not a Judicial character but a sneaky aspiring politician who wanted to use the highest office of judiciary in Pakistan opting to be a Political Designer in Pakistan to bring his political dreams come true,with Nawaz Not-So Sharif to be placed in power and Chaudhry to take over the Judiciary definitely balances the equation in none other than the most corrupt way one can think of.
Chaudhry who claims to be incumbent CJ by his own virtue, while being aware that there are pending matters in the SCP against Zardari however, speculating that Zardari may consider restoring him with Supreme Judicial powers took the most inappropriate step to personally visit Zardari while on the other hand, he refused to accept the greetings of those who claimed to be victims of the Lal Masjid dilemma and who personally visited his residence once he was removed from house arrest! stating that he cannot accept the greetings or see anyone that has matters pending in the judiciary, how jurisprudential of him.
Talking about Nawaz not-so-Sharif, he happens to be the one who was born as a result of a military dictator Zia Ul Haq who carved, crafted and ornamented him leaving behind a successor, a successor who was principally and primarily a participant in those 20,000 deaths of young ones of Karachi consequent to the military operation initiated by him.
Dogar is Punjabi tribe in the Punjab region of Pakistan.
The question that comes to mind is, does everyone necessarily have to be an Urdu Speaking Mohajir in order to be part of a ruling administration of Pakistan or for that matter Sindh or Karachi?
Whether it be 2008 or 2800, one must thank everyone they know or feel have been regardful, acknowledging, providing, recognizant, helping alleviating or assisting in any manner, had people considered to the simple practice to acknowledge and thank someone who is nice to them, Pakistan would have been a much better place, and free from the "might is right" culture, it is a shame that we fail to acknowledge those who are nice to us and instead believe that any nice act extended is our right. We need to began to distinguish between rights and privilege.
It was the greatest dis-service for the people of Pakistan to have dragged Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah into the dirty feudal politics of Pakistan, even if she was elected to office, she was a lady deserving much more dignity than that.
Its high time for the people to pick up, brush off the dirt on their clothes and knees, exchange an smile with each other regardless of their regional or ethnic loyalties or lineage and move on to the right path, the path that leads to a stable and secure Pakistan and leads us away from the blame game. Otherwise we should be prepared to become the Toilet Paper of US and other cronies claiming to be some sizeable power in this world because US has one straight policy and that dictates using anyone and everyone as a toilet paper and flush it when it is used up.
There are good bad and ugly characters in every society and every segment of the society, be it administrators, politicians, judicial officers, people of armed forces or any segment, only due to a few army officials corrupt attitudes and practices, we cannot stereotype the entire army as such while we know and it is a fact that the majority of our armed forces personnel is extremely loyal, sincere and dedicated, we should not be prejudiced ourselves nor should we create such a bias among others.
Aitezaz(a murderer of many protesting women in Hyderabad, Sindh while in power) who left PPP back then attempted to join again and was told by Nusrat Bhutto to go to ZAB's grave site and seek his permission because she did not feel that he(Aitezaz) is credible enough to come back to PPP. He is nothing more than a "thali ka baigan"
The mention of Jehangir Road (Patel Para) also brings another sad event of the 70's to mind as it reminds of the lingual riots where Mumtaz Bhutto thought that he would kidnap Urdu like Abdul Waheed Katpar's daughter, and brought in armed people from outside of Karachi in trucks who shot on absolutely un-armed people of Karachi from close range in the areas of Jehangir Road & Patel Para killing numerous Urdu speaking.
By the same token it brings back the memory of Orangi town where extremely poor Bihari(migrants of Bangladesh) lived, and during Zia Ul Haq's period their huts were set ablaze and as the fire burned out of control children and women were picked up and thrown in the blazing fires buring their households.
When the curse of drug pushing among many other serious crimes surpassed tolerance by all proportions and MQM asked the govt to dismantle the FATA like tribal set up at the Sohrab Goth slightly beyond F.B.Area, all hell broke lose, and the beasts of the contraband free-trade-zone took it upon themselves to go after everyone who sought to shut down their illegal ghetto and many were killed in this operation as well. Everyone knows that there was an open air drug market in that section of Karachi principally operated by a certain ethnicity which also encouraged other seriously criminal activities and harbored criminals in reguge.
My compliments to Ahmar Muzammil for such a good article, thank you.
(Late)Mustafa Zaidi also said:
in he patharoan pay chal kay agar aa'sako tou aao
meray ghar kay rastay mein koi kehkashan nahin haye
Yeah I do believe it is his poetry and verse, not Shehnaz Gul's(the once air-hostess who was the prime suspect of his cold blooded murder).
Regarding Chaudhry Iftikhar the Ex-CJ of SCP, how evident it is that he is not a Judicial character but a sneaky aspiring politician who wanted to use the highest office of judiciary in Pakistan opting to be a Political Designer in Pakistan to bring his political dreams come true,with Nawaz Not-So Sharif to be placed in power and Chaudhry to take over the Judiciary definitely balances the equation in none other than the most corrupt way one can think of.
Chaudhry who claims to be incumbent CJ by his own virtue, while being aware that there are pending matters in the SCP against Zardari however, speculating that Zardari may consider restoring him with Supreme Judicial powers took the most inappropriate step to personally visit Zardari while on the other hand, he refused to accept the greetings of those who claimed to be victims of the Lal Masjid dilemma and who personally visited his residence once he was removed from house arrest! stating that he cannot accept the greetings or see anyone that has matters pending in the judiciary, how jurisprudential of him.
Talking about Nawaz not-so-Sharif, he happens to be the one who was born as a result of a military dictator Zia Ul Haq who carved, crafted and ornamented him leaving behind a successor, a successor who was principally and primarily a participant in those 20,000 deaths of young ones of Karachi consequent to the military operation initiated by him.
Dogar is Punjabi tribe in the Punjab region of Pakistan.
The question that comes to mind is, does everyone necessarily have to be an Urdu Speaking Mohajir in order to be part of a ruling administration of Pakistan or for that matter Sindh or Karachi?
Whether it be 2008 or 2800, one must thank everyone they know or feel have been regardful, acknowledging, providing, recognizant, helping alleviating or assisting in any manner, had people considered to the simple practice to acknowledge and thank someone who is nice to them, Pakistan would have been a much better place, and free from the "might is right" culture, it is a shame that we fail to acknowledge those who are nice to us and instead believe that any nice act extended is our right. We need to began to distinguish between rights and privilege.
It was the greatest dis-service for the people of Pakistan to have dragged Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah into the dirty feudal politics of Pakistan, even if she was elected to office, she was a lady deserving much more dignity than that.
Its high time for the people to pick up, brush off the dirt on their clothes and knees, exchange an smile with each other regardless of their regional or ethnic loyalties or lineage and move on to the right path, the path that leads to a stable and secure Pakistan and leads us away from the blame game. Otherwise we should be prepared to become the Toilet Paper of US and other cronies claiming to be some sizeable power in this world because US has one straight policy and that dictates using anyone and everyone as a toilet paper and flush it when it is used up.
There are good bad and ugly characters in every society and every segment of the society, be it administrators, politicians, judicial officers, people of armed forces or any segment, only due to a few army officials corrupt attitudes and practices, we cannot stereotype the entire army as such while we know and it is a fact that the majority of our armed forces personnel is extremely loyal, sincere and dedicated, we should not be prejudiced ourselves nor should we create such a bias among others.
Aitezaz(a murderer of many protesting women in Hyderabad, Sindh while in power) who left PPP back then attempted to join again and was told by Nusrat Bhutto to go to ZAB's grave site and seek his permission because she did not feel that he(Aitezaz) is credible enough to come back to PPP. He is nothing more than a "thali ka baigan"
The mention of Jehangir Road (Patel Para) also brings another sad event of the 70's to mind as it reminds of the lingual riots where Mumtaz Bhutto thought that he would kidnap Urdu like Abdul Waheed Katpar's daughter, and brought in armed people from outside of Karachi in trucks who shot on absolutely un-armed people of Karachi from close range in the areas of Jehangir Road & Patel Para killing numerous Urdu speaking.
By the same token it brings back the memory of Orangi town where extremely poor Bihari(migrants of Bangladesh) lived, and during Zia Ul Haq's period their huts were set ablaze and as the fire burned out of control children and women were picked up and thrown in the blazing fires buring their households.
When the curse of drug pushing among many other serious crimes surpassed tolerance by all proportions and MQM asked the govt to dismantle the FATA like tribal set up at the Sohrab Goth slightly beyond F.B.Area, all hell broke lose, and the beasts of the contraband free-trade-zone took it upon themselves to go after everyone who sought to shut down their illegal ghetto and many were killed in this operation as well. Everyone knows that there was an open air drug market in that section of Karachi principally operated by a certain ethnicity which also encouraged other seriously criminal activities and harbored criminals in reguge.
My compliments to Ahmar Muzammil for such a good article, thank you.
#20 Posted by rangeela on July 22, 2008 7:45:40 am
The first sentence of this "article" threw me off. Quote- "Don't we claim to be the descendents of people who laid there lives in millions to ensure a democratic, Islamic and most importantly a welfare state".On top of that, he is "supposed" to be a journalist. Speaks a lot about Chowk's editorial policy.
#19 Posted by fay3z on July 22, 2008 5:39:47 am
Im sorry how is Karachi as a city or the people in it to blame for people mucking about with the constitution? Not only is that blatant generalisation but also misleading generalisation. The majority of people I know in Karachi are NOT in support of the dictator, but then again they dont support any party. They are sick of politics and mind their own bleeping businesses...which is all they can do..until they too become a victim of a bomb blast, be shot dead over a cell phone or just starve to death due to poverty!
#18 Posted by hurricane on July 21, 2008 2:30:33 pm
Ahmer sahib,
Here's a very odd view about your writing:
Why America is Great…… and Pakistan isn’t
Filed under: Vietnam, Uncategorized — samanthaa at 4:50 pm on Wednesday, November 29, 2006
Author Ahmer Muzammil works for the Pakistan newspaper The PakTribune. He recently wrote an article tittled Why America is Great… and Pakistan isn’t. In this article Muzammil continuously bashes his government and it’s representatives.
Rest assured that I have nothing good to say about the majority of our politians, but why is thier incompitence used as a reason to supress the will of the people? (pg 2)
How could you live in a country where you so strongly hate the people running it? Sure there is a level in which people can dislike thier politicians, but to go as far as to publicly loath them.
After reading this article i realized that it wasn’t as serious as i had thought it was going to be. The tittle was very intriguing but its almost as if Muzammil wrote this as a joke i can’t imagine what newspaper would actually publish something like this.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:FMQhANtWiv0J:samanthaa.learnerblogs .org/+Ahmer+Muzammil&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us
Here's a very odd view about your writing:
Why America is Great…… and Pakistan isn’t
Filed under: Vietnam, Uncategorized — samanthaa at 4:50 pm on Wednesday, November 29, 2006
Author Ahmer Muzammil works for the Pakistan newspaper The PakTribune. He recently wrote an article tittled Why America is Great… and Pakistan isn’t. In this article Muzammil continuously bashes his government and it’s representatives.
Rest assured that I have nothing good to say about the majority of our politians, but why is thier incompitence used as a reason to supress the will of the people? (pg 2)
How could you live in a country where you so strongly hate the people running it? Sure there is a level in which people can dislike thier politicians, but to go as far as to publicly loath them.
After reading this article i realized that it wasn’t as serious as i had thought it was going to be. The tittle was very intriguing but its almost as if Muzammil wrote this as a joke i can’t imagine what newspaper would actually publish something like this.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:FMQhANtWiv0J:samanthaa.learnerblogs .org/+Ahmer+Muzammil&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us
#17 Posted by nycoolest on July 21, 2008 10:37:58 am
Why karachi walla supports MQM's action??
answe lies in the simple Anu Bhai VS. Haji sahab approach presented in a show I was watching on weekend.
They presented two characters Annu 'Bhai' and 'Haji' Sahab who are running for local mohalla elections.
Anu Bhai has all the ills of the society and has the bharam of badmaash. He does take care of community work by using his power, name and relationships. Out of mohalla he is a maniac, do poondi and drink like a fish... Haji sahab on the other hand, performed 30 haj, always trying to please Allah, give out magnificent speeches to collect chanda for noble causes but don't do jack for community and shut off his door when mohallay walla need him.
who will you vote? :) isn't this karachi's political scene. MQM vs. Jamati
answe lies in the simple Anu Bhai VS. Haji sahab approach presented in a show I was watching on weekend.
They presented two characters Annu 'Bhai' and 'Haji' Sahab who are running for local mohalla elections.
Anu Bhai has all the ills of the society and has the bharam of badmaash. He does take care of community work by using his power, name and relationships. Out of mohalla he is a maniac, do poondi and drink like a fish... Haji sahab on the other hand, performed 30 haj, always trying to please Allah, give out magnificent speeches to collect chanda for noble causes but don't do jack for community and shut off his door when mohallay walla need him.
who will you vote? :) isn't this karachi's political scene. MQM vs. Jamati
#16 Posted by Sarah-K on July 21, 2008 9:21:12 am
this article is brilliantly written, lots of valid viewpoints, couldn't agree more.
another thing i want to add is how many count the fatalities and damage at the hands of ''islamists'' (btw what are ''islamists'' what a stupid word!) and yet the world's media hasn't acknowledged the terror the pakistani/iraqi/afgani people are facing day in day out.. they too are victims and are vulnerable.
uh.. forget it, it'll never make a difference what we say, we will have to learn to live with barefaced hypocrisy and bullshit.
another thing i want to add is how many count the fatalities and damage at the hands of ''islamists'' (btw what are ''islamists'' what a stupid word!) and yet the world's media hasn't acknowledged the terror the pakistani/iraqi/afgani people are facing day in day out.. they too are victims and are vulnerable.
uh.. forget it, it'll never make a difference what we say, we will have to learn to live with barefaced hypocrisy and bullshit.
#15 Posted by cliftonbridge on July 21, 2008 9:14:51 am
Ahmer you sound just like this guy i know called Hamza :)
#14 Posted by satya100 on July 21, 2008 7:09:20 am
"Compare this to the much larger scale genocide of American Indians and Africans during the slave trade which nobody hears about. So powerful is this persuasion via the media that it makes the world ignore the genocide of Palestinians by once persecuted Jews."
Replace American by Hindu in American Indians.
Compare this to the much larger scale genocide of Hindu Indians during the dark period of Islamization of India which nobody hears about. So powerful is this cooption of Islamists with Angloes that persuasion via the media that it makes the world ignore the genocide of Hindu Indians and Hindu BDs in 1971 by the Arabized converts and Arabs.
Replace American by Hindu in American Indians.
Compare this to the much larger scale genocide of Hindu Indians during the dark period of Islamization of India which nobody hears about. So powerful is this cooption of Islamists with Angloes that persuasion via the media that it makes the world ignore the genocide of Hindu Indians and Hindu BDs in 1971 by the Arabized converts and Arabs.
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