Emma Alam August 9, 2008
#31 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 13, 2008 5:53:51 pm
"girls for women" [you forget they are children too, in the same species]
I meant, "61 schools of girls" is a news item. Its what they happened to do. Women are a target for them. You think I'm joking? that's not my sense of humor.
In the nearest language, it always works.
I meant, "61 schools of girls" is a news item. Its what they happened to do. Women are a target for them. You think I'm joking? that's not my sense of humor.
In the nearest language, it always works.
#30 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 13, 2008 5:52:16 pm
Parthaab, according to what the Taliban did, it was 'girls for women' -- quoting the 'CORRECT" news is important, but you can't see DESTRUCTION, INSENSITIVITY MURDER OF SPIRIT AND MIND, all you can do is act in a pestering way and continue your personal plea against men vs women.
So its not a feminist take, its quoting the correct information. Its also relevant to the topic at hand, nothing you wrote on this column was. "unfair Indian laws against men" was clearly not the theme for the article, nor any of the comments.
You're effeminate. Sometimes men do look darn good acting like men. [thats feminist-term for 'masculintst' turn of masculinist [word that doesn't exist] men]
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I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled --t.s.
In the nearest language, it always works.
So its not a feminist take, its quoting the correct information. Its also relevant to the topic at hand, nothing you wrote on this column was. "unfair Indian laws against men" was clearly not the theme for the article, nor any of the comments.
You're effeminate. Sometimes men do look darn good acting like men. [thats feminist-term for 'masculintst' turn of masculinist [word that doesn't exist] men]
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I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled --t.s.
In the nearest language, it always works.
#29 Posted by parthaab on August 13, 2008 4:47:43 pm
Re: # 27, Meira,
'burn down another 61 schools of little girls'
Girls? Not 'children' anymore? It is a feminist take, to classify an atrocity as 'male' and 'female' atrocity.
''feminist' is not an insult Parthaab, it happens to be a Movement'
Terrorists consider themselves to be part of 'movements' too. Just being 'women' there is propaganda material, that it cannot be aggressive somehow! This is a wrong assumption. Hitler too, was taken in by his own propaganda that he belonged to a democratic country!
'burn down another 61 schools of little girls'
Girls? Not 'children' anymore? It is a feminist take, to classify an atrocity as 'male' and 'female' atrocity.
''feminist' is not an insult Parthaab, it happens to be a Movement'
Terrorists consider themselves to be part of 'movements' too. Just being 'women' there is propaganda material, that it cannot be aggressive somehow! This is a wrong assumption. Hitler too, was taken in by his own propaganda that he belonged to a democratic country!
#28 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 13, 2008 3:02:27 pm
Interesting, "angry old woman" reminds me of Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment -- and he was driven lol...to kill her...haha...that book is really something. What a comparison.
"
I will keep the torch of Art burning, she said. The light was coming through from extremes, at pitches she had never known.
"I will keep the torch of Art burning," she said again, hesitant, unsure, but making up her mind. "This world does not belong to the looters." She reminded herself, isn't that what it said? yes, yes it was.
I will never let the torch fade away.
In the distance of the newly carpeted ocean, sparkled insignificant jewels. She knew, there was a way. She was going to find it. I am going to change the world, said she.
And I knew, she meant it. "
--Extract, Fatima Mirza.
In the nearest language, it always works.
"
I will keep the torch of Art burning, she said. The light was coming through from extremes, at pitches she had never known.
"I will keep the torch of Art burning," she said again, hesitant, unsure, but making up her mind. "This world does not belong to the looters." She reminded herself, isn't that what it said? yes, yes it was.
I will never let the torch fade away.
In the distance of the newly carpeted ocean, sparkled insignificant jewels. She knew, there was a way. She was going to find it. I am going to change the world, said she.
And I knew, she meant it. "
--Extract, Fatima Mirza.
In the nearest language, it always works.
#27 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 13, 2008 2:47:30 pm
ooooh I am so 'scared' Mureed whose languauge is not english, and yet writes in english -- because he likes to talk of sluts, and a man who uses language, i wonder what he does with his wife. I'll see your activities, and I'll make sure everyone here knows what you are.
The man, who first insults, then threatens, is not worth being called a man of the world, or of Prophet Mohammad's Religion. (P.B.U.H) Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H) who had the patience to be treated like filth by angry old women who spoke with your tongue, and still asked: how are you today, Ma'am?
The same Prophet, who declared every non-muslim's rights to be observed. Peace to reign. Respect for women.
I'll see your activities, Mr. Mureed, you don't know who I am. Now go join your Taliban Brothers, and burn down another 61 schools of little girls, and then say:
"We pray 5 times a day" hell I won't let you near heaven. You watch what I will do to you.
In the nearest language, it always works.
The man, who first insults, then threatens, is not worth being called a man of the world, or of Prophet Mohammad's Religion. (P.B.U.H) Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H) who had the patience to be treated like filth by angry old women who spoke with your tongue, and still asked: how are you today, Ma'am?
The same Prophet, who declared every non-muslim's rights to be observed. Peace to reign. Respect for women.
I'll see your activities, Mr. Mureed, you don't know who I am. Now go join your Taliban Brothers, and burn down another 61 schools of little girls, and then say:
"We pray 5 times a day" hell I won't let you near heaven. You watch what I will do to you.
In the nearest language, it always works.
#26 Posted by Ahmadi_Mureed on August 13, 2008 1:49:40 pm
Sister Meiraj English is not my mother languauge , it might be yours .
BTW your past and your present "activities" will be observed in the context of your write ups and then we will be able to view your life better.
BTW your past and your present "activities" will be observed in the context of your write ups and then we will be able to view your life better.
#25 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 13, 2008 1:45:38 pm
though a 'married woman' can be an unpaid-prostitute better, Mureed, look how she's offering her services for life, to a man 'arranged' by someone else. Legal Marriages, ah, here's another word you might like:
Legal Prostitution.
This is what the Muslim World (sadly) has come to. You justify it with paper, and sanctify it with 'god' -- but you ruin women's lives.
Amazing, that two women have chosen to answer the R&G [rosen &guild] of the Chowk Community --- I think Hamlet must be going through a gender-change as we speak. I always thought I could perform him. Its such a perfect role. Ah!!
Thank you everyone for giving me this opportunity. The men, for disappearing, and the world for turning as rotten as Denmark used to be... a quintessential this all is.
I had a great time. Imagine feeling you're Hamlet, in the middle of nowhere, "seems Madam? Nay it is, I know not seems."
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cheers Sarah.
In the nearest language, it always works.
Legal Prostitution.
This is what the Muslim World (sadly) has come to. You justify it with paper, and sanctify it with 'god' -- but you ruin women's lives.
Amazing, that two women have chosen to answer the R&G [rosen &guild] of the Chowk Community --- I think Hamlet must be going through a gender-change as we speak. I always thought I could perform him. Its such a perfect role. Ah!!
Thank you everyone for giving me this opportunity. The men, for disappearing, and the world for turning as rotten as Denmark used to be... a quintessential this all is.
I had a great time. Imagine feeling you're Hamlet, in the middle of nowhere, "seems Madam? Nay it is, I know not seems."
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cheers Sarah.
In the nearest language, it always works.
#24 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 13, 2008 1:38:46 pm
There is no such word as 'flirterer' Mureed,
lol
and 'feminist' is not an insult Parthaab, it happens to be a Movement.
Mureed, I was not talking about "Muslim" values, but Painters. Blake who saw angels, and painted them. Err..are you sure what you are talking about? (I think everyone reading you thinks you're an idiot)
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At this moment I am reminded of the conversations between Hamlet and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.
In the nearest language, it always works.
lol
and 'feminist' is not an insult Parthaab, it happens to be a Movement.
Mureed, I was not talking about "Muslim" values, but Painters. Blake who saw angels, and painted them. Err..are you sure what you are talking about? (I think everyone reading you thinks you're an idiot)
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At this moment I am reminded of the conversations between Hamlet and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.
In the nearest language, it always works.
#23 Posted by Ahmadi_Mureed on August 13, 2008 12:11:41 pm
Reply # 17
Dear Sister Meiraj08,
You are trying to be over clever and your write ups are nothing but useless and empty word jugglery.
Lost agents like you will never be able to change the muslim world or muslim values.
It seems my words have pinched your sensitive nerve.
I never called any married woman as a " prostitute " , rather than that " a girl friend " , " an unmarried beloved ", " a flirterer" , are called UNPAID prostitutes by no one but Dr Laura who herself is a white woman.
Go and read " 10 stupid things women Do to Mess up their lives " by Dr Laura Schlessinger.
Dear Sister Meiraj08,
You are trying to be over clever and your write ups are nothing but useless and empty word jugglery.
Lost agents like you will never be able to change the muslim world or muslim values.
It seems my words have pinched your sensitive nerve.
I never called any married woman as a " prostitute " , rather than that " a girl friend " , " an unmarried beloved ", " a flirterer" , are called UNPAID prostitutes by no one but Dr Laura who herself is a white woman.
Go and read " 10 stupid things women Do to Mess up their lives " by Dr Laura Schlessinger.
#22 Posted by parthaab on August 13, 2008 8:43:55 am
Re: # 21
'haha... you obviously didn't read my comment properly! '
I did. But not that I had to - all comments by the females look the same anyway! hahaha!
'haha... you obviously didn't read my comment properly! '
I did. But not that I had to - all comments by the females look the same anyway! hahaha!
#21 Posted by Sarah-K on August 13, 2008 7:05:19 am
Re: # 20
haha... you obviously didn't read my comment properly!
haha... you obviously didn't read my comment properly!
#20 Posted by parthaab on August 13, 2008 6:58:58 am
Re: # 19
If you can think of guys as 'pervert' JUST BECAUSE they are guys, you will certainly be 'pretty upset' indeed! You have nt learnt to live life, lady! And the way you refer to males, as if they were all the same, is pretty much feminist too!
If you can think of guys as 'pervert' JUST BECAUSE they are guys, you will certainly be 'pretty upset' indeed! You have nt learnt to live life, lady! And the way you refer to males, as if they were all the same, is pretty much feminist too!
#19 Posted by Sarah-K on August 13, 2008 6:25:13 am
a LOT has changed during these past couple of decades, gradually us women have revolutionised the way things are done. we have seeped into 'mans world' and forced them to accept our 'invasion', the fact that it's still a novel concept means there are still minor hiccups here and there.
i dont think we can really blame the guy generally, women cant be categorised, there are those who want to go out and i dont know.. start bricklaying, driving trucks and there are those who prefer to sit at home and file their nails, men cant be expected to treat us all exactly the same.
i have to say though, i've never faced much problems with sexism, but only the other day, some guy i 'turned down' who is well.. 'well-known' and can-do-no-wrong in the eyes of others has been poking fun at me behind my back and coming out with all sorts of untrue stories to people who matter in my professional life, it just brings you back down to reality, a woman can try being as dignified as she pleases, but so long as there are perverts about, they will always try degrade women by whichever means. i dont know what the solution is to that but it's pretty upsetting.
i dont think we can really blame the guy generally, women cant be categorised, there are those who want to go out and i dont know.. start bricklaying, driving trucks and there are those who prefer to sit at home and file their nails, men cant be expected to treat us all exactly the same.
i have to say though, i've never faced much problems with sexism, but only the other day, some guy i 'turned down' who is well.. 'well-known' and can-do-no-wrong in the eyes of others has been poking fun at me behind my back and coming out with all sorts of untrue stories to people who matter in my professional life, it just brings you back down to reality, a woman can try being as dignified as she pleases, but so long as there are perverts about, they will always try degrade women by whichever means. i dont know what the solution is to that but it's pretty upsetting.
#18 Posted by parthaab on August 13, 2008 3:55:11 am
As divorce rates increase ( at least 40% in Mumbai ), and remain mostly messy affairs, and ex-wives bent on financial extortion, and lawyers willing to make money, there is still potential for these draconian laws to be used to threaten innocent sons-in-law with jail.
These laws, designed by depraved minds, have even had judges up in arms at its biased nature.
Divorces have still to be battled in courts for years against false accusations, lies, deceit, perjury, etc. While lawyers can slowly build their mansions with the money since this takes years, even decades.
Domestic Violence Laws is still pertain only to females - while in developed countries it respects both genders. Media shy 'male' husbands must be encouraged to come openly, and discuss violence suffered by them too. Male awareness regarding these anti-male laws needs to increase among other potential victims.
The ex-wife still has 'rights' to claim 'maintenance' money from the mans livelihood, much after he manages to divorce her - a sadistic reminder from the medieval past, when marriages were 'irrevocable'!
Evil geniuses like Girija Vyas want ONLY the women themselves to 'spare husbands from unfair accusations', and male awareness about Male Rights seems a far cry. The age of marriage seems well and truly doomed for sane males.
These laws, designed by depraved minds, have even had judges up in arms at its biased nature.
Divorces have still to be battled in courts for years against false accusations, lies, deceit, perjury, etc. While lawyers can slowly build their mansions with the money since this takes years, even decades.
Domestic Violence Laws is still pertain only to females - while in developed countries it respects both genders. Media shy 'male' husbands must be encouraged to come openly, and discuss violence suffered by them too. Male awareness regarding these anti-male laws needs to increase among other potential victims.
The ex-wife still has 'rights' to claim 'maintenance' money from the mans livelihood, much after he manages to divorce her - a sadistic reminder from the medieval past, when marriages were 'irrevocable'!
Evil geniuses like Girija Vyas want ONLY the women themselves to 'spare husbands from unfair accusations', and male awareness about Male Rights seems a far cry. The age of marriage seems well and truly doomed for sane males.
#17 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 13, 2008 2:58:22 am
Parthaab, Yes, poetry is the language of sin, Rumi conversed in aristocratic nuances, I am the Devil, and heaven grant you release.
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Mr. Mureed,
The Quran has a chapter on bee-hives I've read, and also one on poets. Incidentally, Ibn'al'Arabi was alive the day angels had the signification that Michelangelo or Blake once felt.
Blake, the painter, when asked "how did you paint the exact replica of an angel!! it is astounding!!" replied casually: "well because he sat for me, and allowed me of course."
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Your wife and you can go back Mr. Mureed, but you have no right to judge anyone else's values or morals. You are not a judge as you say yourself: "we are not to reason why/we are but to do and die." -- so leave it to angelic hierarchies who spoke to great painters, and let us not disturb the world by our own opinions. Don't call other women "prostitutes" ever again, and I'll spare your wife the same title. Otherwise, remember, you are calling her whatsoever you call another man's wife/beloved/ancestor -- I don't care. Also, you are going to hell. Don't ever do it again.
In the nearest language, it always works.
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Mr. Mureed,
The Quran has a chapter on bee-hives I've read, and also one on poets. Incidentally, Ibn'al'Arabi was alive the day angels had the signification that Michelangelo or Blake once felt.
Blake, the painter, when asked "how did you paint the exact replica of an angel!! it is astounding!!" replied casually: "well because he sat for me, and allowed me of course."
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Your wife and you can go back Mr. Mureed, but you have no right to judge anyone else's values or morals. You are not a judge as you say yourself: "we are not to reason why/we are but to do and die." -- so leave it to angelic hierarchies who spoke to great painters, and let us not disturb the world by our own opinions. Don't call other women "prostitutes" ever again, and I'll spare your wife the same title. Otherwise, remember, you are calling her whatsoever you call another man's wife/beloved/ancestor -- I don't care. Also, you are going to hell. Don't ever do it again.
In the nearest language, it always works.
#16 Posted by parthaab on August 13, 2008 12:59:30 am
Re: # 13
They say that devils can quote the scriptures. But only now do I realise they also 'talk' poetry!
They say that devils can quote the scriptures. But only now do I realise they also 'talk' poetry!
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