What Talibanization?

2 corrections in my previous post

1. "Sia-ul-Haque" should be read as "Zia-ul-Haque" (may he obtain unending bounties in heaven)
2. "Repend" should be read as "Repent"
I remain, your humble master

your mullah,

Maulana Toofani

NFP baitay,

Assalam ualaikum wa rehmatullah wa barakatu
wa jannat ul hallalu wa dozakh ul haramu
amma baad, baccha pehlay,

Mashallah the paradise bound teenagers spotted your na-momaniyat from a mile. May Allah increase their bounty in heaven.

Not only are you standing on the verge of doazkh, NFP baitay, you are also uttering subtle profanities against Zia-ul-Haque.

Zai-ul-Haque, the ameer ul momineen, the kahdim-e-harmain-shareefain, the panch waqt namazi, his holiness, the JabrDA sharif.

Of course he built mosques. Everyone knows that this life is but a test for the aakhriyat. There is no real need to stay attached to this world. The knowledge of this world will not be useful in the other world. Mashallah, Ameer ul muslameen, hazrat Zia-ul-Haque was making sure we got the right education. The education that matters. Madrassas and such.

Lahowlawala quwat. What horrible time is upon us? The blessed beard of a momin is compared to the lustful seductive zulfain of a temptress? The poor man weeps at seeing you and your lady boss jump so deep in the well of jahilliyat that you dared contradict his noble cause, and even dared to raise concerns about the daRdhee mubarik.

Mashallah sheikh Sia-ul-Haque had afforded the khawateen the privilige of living in their homes with utmost freedom. This boss and the nangi sir aurat in your office have forsaken that freedom. May God protect us from such evil deeds.

Repend NFP baitay. I will pray for you.

Wassalam.
I remain, your humble master

your mullah,

Maulana Toofani

So Janjua's female? thanks leadenwinter, you problem-solver.
; )
In the nearest language, it always works.

I think the intrinsic problem with these people is that they don't quite ever get laid, (possibly because they're ugly.. inter alia e.g. the fat mutant hijabis of al-huda ) thus it irks them to no end if they discover or suspect anyone else enjoying their existance at all... this is the force that drives fundamentalists.... the desire to ensure that everyone is as utterly miserable as they are themselves.

If muslims calm down about sex they'll stop blowing things up and making life difficult for everyone else :)

Frankly, I'm quite bored with the way those arguments go, Janjua (who still forgot to mention if he is a man or a..) and the trick in this particular instance, was to create an alternative, where kaptain would lose his ground -- and his real intention would come through, which it did:


"Weapon, Women and Wine..these bring the tautness of arrogance.."
[damn it, I hate giving out my secrets, but sometimes leeches have their ways] Ok here goes,

Did you know, that fallacies in argument, are used as 'tools' of debate? No, Urooj Janjua only comes up with nice little jingles for Tableeghee fathers and their suppressed daughters: "I am woman, hear me roar" if repeated the whole day by them, would do them good. You should really suggest it. Comon, afterall, you did think of it, all by yourself.

The trick in this experiment was to follow the humor, the creativity and the necessity to RAISE THE PLATFORM from god-damn one-dimensional conversations that reach nothing.
I am Muslim, you are not. And lets hear it 15 billion times again. Janjua, though I giggle each time I take this name, (its a funny name) is to be taken with a grain of horror. I am acquiring that, at Chowk, these days.

In the nearest language, it always works.

Re: # 17

For your next assignment try to find out what "taking something with a grain of salt" means.

After that we'll come around to how the paragraphs and/or sentences are meant to be read and taken as a whole.

For a poet you're pretty hazy on a lot of things that should be second nature to you, unless of course you're a fake, cos then all is explained.

Re: # 17

And why, may I ask, is it not sane? Am I missing something here? Or is your command on English too weak to get at the meaning behind the sentence, or ONCE AGAIN, it's the whole "I am woman, hear me roar" tripe?

To break it down for you, here's how it goes, When a man (and here the reference is to a heterosexual man) is approached by a virgin (reference being a very attractive female) and is offered a beer (reference being any kind of sin) normally he is not able to resist it (meaning, he falls for it), however, there is a certain commendable breed, that does not fall into such things no matter what or who the temptation is.

For someone who claims to be a poet, you're pretty thick when it comes to symbolism.

And next time you address my post, have the guts to say so, cos after all , you are woman and we all should hear you roar; I would be the one, standing in the middle of the room, guffawing loudly at your roar.

addressed to no-one in particular.

The line: One cannot deny a provocative and inviting virgin with a pack of beer but few can.---
is what UroojJanjua calls sane. Its also what he/she calls 'point well-taken.' If you were a man, I would quote DPS, more specifically: "are you a man or an amoeba? " but since I am uncertain of your gender, the name I mean. What can I call you instead, in the meantime?

Till we figure out what it is, let there be silence. That Kaptain episode was a headache in itself. Then the janjuas come along.


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Re: # 14

I don't see why you have to jump each time you hear the word "woman" and scream bloody murder. The point made by kaptain was quite sane, until you decided to shed some feminist light on it, now it's lost in all the "I am woman, hear me roar" crap..!!

Anyway, coming back to the point, I would say good going kaptain, point taken, albeit with a grain of salt, just like the article written by NFP should be taken.

kaptain, you seem to know a little too much about these settings and timings.

Arrogance is a quality I admire the most in Iqbal.
khudee ko kar bulund itna kei har taqdeer se pehle
khuda bandei se khud pooche, bata teree raza kia hai

didn't Junoon, before I lost all track of them, make these lines go round?

There's no knowing God without arrogance, "no nor women either/
though, by your smiling, you seem to say so." -- Hamlet, Shakespeare.
In the nearest language, it always works.

Re: # 12

and third W is Wine..

Weapon, Women and Wine..these bring the tautness of arrogance..

no discrimination meant to ladies..that's not the point here..

Re: # 10

point is..
how many of 'em can resist such an offer..? given all the plausible inclines 'preferred' settings and timings..??

any..?

but not many..others have already or would put conscience to shame..
but that point of self-culmination is indeed a point of self-gratification..where others would cringe..
and this doesn't come easy and winners as said are less in this spectrum..only a handful..for an example..
313 Vs. the 1000 armed with weapons and women..interestingly the latter and former are Ws..;)..

this is the point..

Subhe Azadi

ye daaG daaG ujaalaa, ye shab_gaziidaa sahar
wo intazaar thaa jis kaa, ye wo sahar to nahii.n


ye wo sahar to nahii.n jis kii aarazuu lekar
chale the yaar ki mil jaayegii kahii.n na kahii.n
falak ke dasht me.n taro.n kii aaKharii ma.nzil
kahii.n to hogaa shab-e-sust mauj kaa saahil
kahii.n to jaa ke rukegaa safinaa-e-Gam-e-dil
jawaa.N lahuu kii pur-asaraar shaaharaaho.n se
chale jo yaar to daaman pe kitane haath pa.De
dayaar-e-husn kii be-sabr Khwaab-gaaho.n se
pukaratii rahii.n baahe.n, badan bulaate rahe
bahut aziiz thii lekin ruKh-e-sahar kii lagan
bahut qarii.n thaa hasiinaan-e-nuur kaa daaman
subuk subuk thii tamannaa, dabii dabii thii thakan


sunaa hai ho bhii chukaa hai firaq-e-zulmat-e-nuur
sunaa hai ho bhii chukaa hai wisaal-e-ma.nzil-o-gaam
badal chukaa hai bahut ahl-e-dard kaa dastuur
nishaat-e-wasl halaal-o-azaab-e-hijr-e-haraam
jigar kii aag, nazar kii uma.ng, dil kii jalan
kisii pe chaaraa-e-hijraa.N kaa kuchh asar hii nahii.n
kahaa.N se aaii nigaar-e-sabaa, kidhar ko gaii
abhii chiraaG-e-sar-e-rah ko kuchh Khabar hii nahii.n
abhii garaani-e-shab me.n kamii nahii.n aaii
najaat-e-diida-o-dil kii gha.Dii nahii.n aaii
chale chalo ki wo ma.nzil abhii nahii.n aaii

Faiz Ahmed Faiz

I like killing points. So, Mr. Kaptain, this beer is served by an enticing "aurat"....Khatoon I mean....what is your point?

A good musalmaan can take vine from virgins, dear god, elahi, this is sacrilege. You make a bad example (model) for fellow Muslims.

tobah astaghfaar.


In the nearest language, it always works.

Re: # 8 - getting the beer from a man kills the point..