What Talibanization?

Hi Nadeem, where have you gone? I don't see any new articles, though I came to 'chandi chowk' once again, strangely its the place Ghalib was born (really, unless its a poetic flight of non-objective fancy) - howz Karachi? tum log sub kaise ho

I directed a short play based on this article of yours, interestingly, I felt it went real good. Lorenzo played you! haha! I've been laughing ever since. In the actual scene (wouldn't you die to be there! no?) well I was the only person who thought the scenes were funny - which really they were, but to others it appealed in a more serious fashion, you, (I mean the Actor playing you) was just SO ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha!!!!(Im wondering if you were a bat in some previous life)

Foreign elements are involved in the acts of recent terrorism and suicide attacks in the country and were actively supported by corrupt ruling mafia backed by imperialist neo-cons. Indian spies and Intelligence agencies are also exploiting the situation in the garb of Taliban, and damaging the country on behalf of Israel/US/India nexus. Real and genuine Taliban feel grief and sorrow over the death of common Muslims. Generally speaking, there are three types of Taliban in Federally Administrative Tribal Areas.
First type of Taliban are those resisting US imperialist agendas and want to expel US from Afghanistan. These Taliban though do not have any agenda about Pakistan. The second type, are the local Taliban, they want to implement Islamic system and Shariah in their own areas. These elements are active in one form or other form in Tribal area especially Swat before 9/11 and even before Soviet Afghan War. Swat was a small independent state which opted for Pakistan, at the time of partition, on guarantee of independent state from Mr. Jinnah. The state was governed by Shariah law. Swat state laws and governance was a natural, efficient and effective law which suited local tradition and Pathan culture. Justice was quick, simple and cheap. The British justice system practiced in Pakistan is based colonial state structure. It has long and unending proceedings, spread over years and even then there is no guarantee that the justice would be provided to the victim, due to culture of false witnesses, clever/fake lawyers and obliging judges. The Pashtuns were basically nomads and during 18th they started living in small villages. If someone from their family is offended by someone and they do not have remedy for that injustice, the family remains under social pressure/stress and feel a great shame. Under the British system, they see the oppressor and his relatives everywhere in the village and feel ashamed for not having natural remedy.
Normally it is considered that Taliban are remnants of Soviet Afghan Mujahadeen. However Shariah demand and Taliban movement date back to Bhutto regime in seventies when Swat state was annexed to Pakistan contrary to Jinnah commitment to Wal-e-Swat. Prior to that, Swat state was very developed till 70s and had very efficient and effective local administration, Qazi courts and Police System under patronage of Wali-e-Swat based on local tradition and mostly Shariah laws. Earlier Qazi Courts, local administration and police was replaced by existing corrupt Pakistani Police, inefficient/ineffective civil bureaucracy (DCs/ACs) and normal court system, which are colonial legacies and skewed state structure designed for colonial brute regimes. Their movement was hijacked/exploited by Zia-ul-Haq on his false promises of Shariah based Government for his eleven year draconian rule on US backing. Similarly many other uprising for change (namely labor and student movement) against colonial state structure and establishment were crushed and exploited by the agents of status-qou and colonial remnants in Pakistan ruling establishment.
The third group of Taliban are those who formed an organized group to achieve their vested criminal interests mainly drug trade on backing of local totalitarian ruling elite, various foreign Intelligence agencies and imperialist neo-cons. Their objectives are loot/plunder masses for their own kitty, while at the same time they will defame/malign and make controversial the cause/name of Taliban who are resisting imperialist neo-cons in Afghanistan and colonial remnants in Pakistan. They use various tools of terror, violence and disinformation. These elements have nothing to do with Islam or Taliban and they are simply using the name of Taliban. US and India trained them in Khurasan and Hirat provinces of Afghanistan. These trained elements were injected into tribal areas of Pakistan in order to spread chaos and crisis. Chaos and crisis is one of the reason due to which President Musharraf justified his clinging to Power. These foreign elements in the garb of Taliban are involved in the acts of terrorism in different cities of Pakistan like Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi. Their violence and chaos justifies excessive use of fire power by state agencies for various incidents like Red mosque, Nov-03 and May-12. Their acts of violence also hijack various peace initiates, therefore whenever there will be a peace talks, either US will directly attack or some suicide bomber will hit inside Pakistan on the name of Taliban or Pakistani Ambassador issue will pop out.
Generally speaking real Taliban are crude and have various short coming, however misdoings of Taliban have been blown out of proportion by imperialist western backed media. But over all they were much better than present day US/West Puppets in Afghanistan and similar other prostitute states/governments ruled by puppets of the West/US. Taliban were from the people and they were answerable to people. Their roots were in the people of that area, therefore there could stand up against alone super power of world, whereas Pakistan being a nuclear state has been subjugated by US for last eight years. Their police system, justice, law/order systems were simple, straight forward and it was delivering to the common. It is very ironic that media and academics become so much idealistic when they deal with Taliban? Like any other system Taliban also had short comings. However normal Pakistan Police, courts and law order system is totally corrupt, highly inefficient and ineffective. Media and academic will tolerate 1001 errors in present skewed setups based on colonial draconian legacy and justify present setup full of corruption by corruption for corruption. Present setup is 90 % corrupt name any institution, any walk of life.
Just like present setup Taliban had some shortcoming and they can rectify that if they are guided and given time. Taliban are much better if compared with present corrupt Police, Bureaucrats, Executives and Courts of Pakistan. Yes at some points Taliban were wrong and they need to be rectified and criticized. After past 50 years one has to admit that present colonial state structure is incapable of rectification. We can tolerate/justify 50 years wrong doings of one system but can’t tolerate indigenous effort for nation building due to their stupidity.

Skirmish of Wazir/Mehsud/Burki Tribes against British Army in enlightened and civilized colonial era Tribes were mostly led by Faqir Appi, who was Wazir. Syeds (Mullahs) in Wana were instrumental for wheeling/dealing and keeping Wazirs, Mehsudes, and Burkis united, intact and motivated against British. An ordinary Pathans has to consider himself the best therefore he would not allow anyone else to lead him even if he is Pathan. Though Pathan does not have Piri/Murdi or Feudalisms like rest of Indo-Pak particularly Sindh/Punjab because they were never Part/Parcel of enlightened and civilized British Royal India. Nonetheless they respect/regard only Syeds after themselves in the whole universe.
Few clans from Syeds, Wazir, Burkis and Mehsud, being weak hearted could not face the heat, so therefore quietly came down and opted for enjoying the peace and cool life in adjoining area of Bannu, DI Khan, Lucky Marvat and Mianwali. These fleeing clans were welcomed by British. Presently mostly from these fleeing clans are well settled and have average education and some power in Pakistan. Those in hill always look down and still taunt their cousins for their forefathers rent seeking behavior. As a return those fleeing clans of Wazir, Mehsud and Syeds like rest of Pakistanis (especially Husain Haqani) consider those in hills backward, evil, uncultured, uncivilized, terrorist and considers themselves enlighten, modern and forward looking.
Those freedom living tribes are still bearing US/Western Defacto-Colonialism with help of local Establishment. These tribes does not understand that resistance against might, struggle for truth is obsolete as it does not pay any more in this land of pure cartels. By the way, what good Faqir Eppi did by fighting against our colonial masters if compared with collaborators and middle men who still rule and control our fate, I mean Establishment. Generally it is considered that it is feudal class who collaborated with Colonials for exploitation/deprivation and they are main beneficiaries of that era till today. There is true to some extent, however it is a smoke screen to cover various other cartels, mafias and other brute forms of feudalism. Feudalism is rampant in every walk of life of Pakistan. Do not you think a DCO till recently lived/acted like a royal feudal? What about SP, he seems to be Generation Next Feudal. Big dirty fishes of Pakistan i.e. 50-60 Business mafias/cartels controlling II Chundrigar Road and Mall Roads (mostly beneficiaries/ blue eyed of East India Company) are also feudal in nature. As a simple example just Google the reason for vast fortune of Agha Khan. So called poor class political parties like MQM also rely on feudal violent tools for exploitation and deprivation. Do not you think well-heeled acolytes university professors are not feudals. Go and see their dirty politics and leg pulling which they do for petty gains. I have never been impressed by Deeni Madrasha/Mullah but what about clerk cloning Macaulay’s plants (Western Universities/College) in name of education, enlightenment and progress. I leave rest all such white collars feudal to your imagination in every sphere of life.
Most of the tribal clans coming down to settled area were naïve and not smart, and intelligent like Saifullah Family fore fathers. Saifullah father Faizullah was shepherd, however he sided with Colonial Royal Army against Waziri/Mehsud/Burki tribes in Wana/Meran Shah. Saifullah Marvat and his father was first Muslim League in Lucky Marvat area since 1930s. Aslam Khatak (Brrother in-law of Saifullah) was also among first Muslim League in adjacent Karak District since 1930. He along with Chaudery Rahmat Ali while in Cambridge on British Royal Scholarship. They coined the name of Pakistan. Aslam Khatak and his family main services for British Royal Army were against Ajab Khan Afridi (Dara Adam Khel). Gen Ali Quli Khan (Musharaf competitor for CAS back in 1997) is nephew of Aslam Khatak and one of his brother in law was Governor. Saifullah family share a vast fortune of more than 25 concerns like Lucky Cement, Mob link, General Tires, Nissan Ghandraha etc. It is such irony that most of the Army/Air Force units which are fighting now in Meran Shah, Wana and other tribal areas have also fought with same tribes/clans till 1947. Another big irony India is fighting in held Kashmir for last 30 years and how many times they have used Jet Fighters for bombing Kashmiris. Azad Kashmir held today by Pakistan was not liberated by Pak Army and Air force rather liberated by same clans/tribes who are sometimes labeled as Taliban, uncivilized, dirty Naswar eating Pathans, and according to Nadeem Paracha (The Dawn Writer/Aaj TV anchor) a pseudo-intellectual think that in north/tribal area no woman live and only men/goats live.
Some time I feel crippled when I think about my Identity. When I am unable to read my mother language and unable to related to my profound history which has been made irrelevant and meager. I can hear this history in local songs and it is off course trouble some for local establishment (various economic/political/feudal/bureaucratic cartels controlling II Chundrigar Road, Mall Roads and Constitution avenue) but also international establishment (Jews/Zionist/US/UK). Though we will not find any consensus on the definition/causes of terrorism but there is 101 % agreement on ethnic cleansing of all those who in one way or other resisted colonial five/six decades ago or still think of resisting neo-colonialism or their imposed local cartels of business/politics/bureaucracy/identity. In Pakistan, in every walk of life those people are in control, whose forefathers in one or other way helped British or East India Compnay. Rest all are masses, they does not count anywhere. While for last fifty we are crushing those people who were/are against local and international establishment or show any such inclinations.
In defacto-colonial society like Pakistan most of roles are supposed to be clerk type, which are boring, insignificant and monotonous. These roles/opportunities are never impressive. With passage of time procedures policies and work practices have become obsolete, are against simple rational and mostly based on mistrust, difficult to extent where pity/ordinary jobs are accomplished with huge wastage of time, money, manpower and resources. The biggest motivation in life is work and trust, however most of the time, our productive work pace is dead slow and unrealistic. Pakistan was supposed to continue inherited colonial state structure. Therefore middle/lower classes in general and poor most in particular are exploited and deprived at multiple levels on pretext of various merits, standards, ethics and unseen Berlin walls erected by our colonial masters. Our pre-1947 pseudo freedom fighters and so called god fathers did not have vision, capacity or planning for these issues. Muslim league was Sarkari League from the first day of its origin. The main objective was to create faithfulness among Indopak Muslim for British Royal Establishment. Similarly ANP and Congress at that time were preaching non-violence meaning that you do not fight against British Raaj. We were/are victim of the LAW OF NECESSITY even before our birth. This so called politics/democracy/voting is for fooling the Masses. It does not implies that Gen Mush, Zia, Ayub are better than Zardari, Nawaz, BB and other stuff. They all are pawns among thousands pawns controlling whole Muslim world for the their Western Masters.
Unquestioned and unconditioned subordination is expected in every walk of life Due to same colonial traditions. While all corrupts (various economic/political/feudal/bureaucratic cartels controlling II Chundrigar Road, Mall Roads Lhr/R-Pindi/Pesh/Queta and Constitution Avenue) will enjoy, control and set the rules of games. They will exploit masses in name of democracy, identity, merit, logic and history. Crippled honest masses will be expected to be a tiger, who will able to bear rotten system for whole life, dodge the corrupts and avoid all temptation against all natural forces. The only way to survive is absolute conformist behavior, and any deviation/difference on any issue/crisis/identity is not tolerated. Most of our state rules/laws/ traditions/norms are decades old and date back to colonial era therefore mostly irrelevant and inapplicable. As a result middle and lower classes in general and poor most in particular are manipulated according to corrupts (various economic/political/feudal/bureaucratic cartels controlling II Chundrigar Road, Mall Roads Lhr/R-Pindi/Pesh/ Queta and Constitution Avenue) politics, whims, goals, personal agenda and likes/dislikes. Wrong practices are justified by these corrupts by other wrong practices. Our colonial social set up expect/support/ promote only conformist roles. Role redesign opportunities or change in such colonial societies like Pakistan are limited by design. The narrow range and depth of social roles does not have any space for innovation or change. For past 60 years, it is not coincidences or masses errors that every time we have laid flat in front of US or West.
Shahzeb Khan English Lecture in GC University in one of his article writes about the same in DAWN that “Few of us know that tens of thousands of British officials were denied reappointment in their home country once India and Pakistan won independence in 1947. They were not terminated but were disallowed to work because they were considered unfit to work in a free and democratic country. The context of colonisation influenced working habits of these officials while they were in India. These officials considered themselves part of the metropolis and that they were there only to govern the subjects of the colony. This notion was accompanied with a set of ‘skills’ which these officials were supposed to internalise. After they arrived in India, they were indoctrinated with the ideas of 'superiority' and ‘inferiority’ of Indians they were supposed to govern. “
Any rational and thinking animal in such colonial society, will consider honest/sincere growth/existence in Pakistan, out of context, irrelevant and wasteful not only for honest/sincere and his family but Pakistan also does not need such people. Only Idiots and super idiots thrive, who are well connected and fattest. If any honest continue to live in Pakistan as honest/sincere, he lead boring, static, hypocritical life and this feeling constantly pinches him like wearing a shoe of small size than his foot. On other hand, if he leaves for abroad, he start from zero and have to work really hard for his existence some where else as second grade citizen without any noble IDENTITY. At this juncture in our national life, we Pakistani have to redefine our original identity based in Islam and Land (Punjabi/ Sindhi/Balochi/Pashtoo), which will burgeon our potentials and endow our faculties for more exacting. We have to shed our colonial identity (insecure and fragile) imposed on us. We should undertake a fresh challenge, an IDENTITY -altering venture that allow us to paint the happenings and experiences of our existence and our dreams on a broader canvass. I rest our IDENTITY dilemma for your kind comments, expert advice and candid opinion. I can bear facts without sugar coating.

Thank you and best regards.
FM Shah

Re: # 68

Sorry to hear you felt let down by one of the London whores you shelled out good money for.

Personal attacks on the authors of articles need more than your downmarket experiences as material.

My Dear NFP.. How are you.. Still have PURPLE HAZE blocking your sight... In my opinion You are a showoff.. a classic hippocrate.. You know why? you complain and complain and no action..Yor writing are just like the cheap advertising of male aphrodisiacs plastered on the public bathroom walls in Karachi or better still (for your elitist minded, good for nothing, dumbo readers)the kinky sex flyers for the services of really nasty looking whores, passed out to pedestrians in Soho, London...Please make up your mind,are you a Revolutionary or a PIMP, just a dirty PIMP.. GBY

Re: # 64

ahmadmadni

You say:

"General was not CORROUPT"

What do you mean by 'corruption'?

Is moral degradation and abuse of power not the worst form of corruption?

The affect of religious-tension in the speech-formation of a child.
[I hope this is not illegal, to post it here I mean]
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the breakdown of language.

"but in the beginning was the word, Father"
"In the beginning there was time"
"But in the beginning was the worder, papa?"
"In the BEGINNING there was time"
"I can't proke by bwing, phather"
"I said, in the beginning there was TIME."
i bro tha tyeiieeme eeyel al thatimeeaherseee"

In the nearest language, it always works.

Re: # 64 I do not know why cheap advt here" Chat to Single Arabs Here".
Honestly if one has to date ( Personally i am against all this young silly plays) may be Turk or Persians they are good looking and they are not semites like Arabs ( blood wise they are like jew )
Just wonder why not date nice Mohajir, punjabis and sindhis etc they are far better looking and having brains than oily arabs. I think single arab means Arab man not woman. Any way even central asians far better than arabs only they strnge china type eyes. It is impolite to give such advt to export young , innocent women to Arab lands. They should marry their own type and leave others same way. Blood mixing leads to problems of social type. I have seen children of pakistani boys married to white but children are disappointment always. They do not have good color like mother . When you put little black color in in liter of milk , milk gets dirty looking. Always wonder why white not wipe out black color and choildren become milk white. It is aways in nature good things godown when come incontact with bad , like dark color. You see these balck and white of usa children always look balck why god does not make them look white.Again same. My cat is white like cream and she has sense her all babies always snow white and people use to bag to get one baby. I only gave to Khandan families not to any nobodies. Any way after wards she had birth control operation as in last litter one dark colored. She started loosing sense so I felt why waste her beauty on have dark cat babies.
Any way all people who are in joy and orgy of joy for demise of president are going to cry for this is going to be short to calamaites.
Good day every body. I just do not like people who insult post of president and go on distributing sweets and then cry later. ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO END, ALL UNGRATEFULS.
Good luck and good day.

Re: # 55 Mr.Arjun please tone down yourself and as most of real pakistanis ( all others are punjabis, sindhi , baloch, etc only pakistanis are hindustani muslims who came from india) are in good mood to entertain your silly jokes and cut paste.
Your india is exporting 40 billion , China is exporting 1000 billions also they got many prizes in competition in China.
We may be all bad you want but we are not going eat grass or Rats also.
Now the hero and zero are going to plunder country as usual same sweets distribution and then stealing. General was not CORROUPT and had good ramport with international leaders. Can mr. Singh make debate with expresident even handicapped is question ? No he can not. Now there will be competition in looting country by lion of Punjab - hero and zero both are just agents of usa elites. They are going to soon diliver nothing no electricity, aata, no milk, collapsing textile can not face coolie indian textile and china and bengaladesh industry. Raskals have wested all precious foreign dollars collected by general's govt. He took it 800 index of KSE then he zoomed high, one year the return was highest in world. Best stock exchange in world. Now they are going to screw up middle class share holders like me.
Just now general is villified by corrupt zero and fake hero but after few years people will remember like gone old golden days under rule of general the way we recall welfare of early Khalifas. Good rulers are killed even in old all kahalifas doied due to trachers people fortunately now people get exiled. General should wait patiently, time will give big rope to hang themselves hero and zero. Let us see how this circus of two joker is going to control inflation and get foreign exchange to buy liquid gold. Just due to kind hearted king of KSA we are getting relief. Now hope that judge takes care of NRO and mr.Zero willbe in jail. i think mr. Balawal Zardari bhutto is fine young man compared to hero and zero hope after few years he will guide nation and will be needed as we should fasten our belts as jokers really going to strike mountain in sea and ship will be endangered and then only Bilawal will come on scene on rescue. Even China invited him for games as they know what can happen in future. With Bilawal and mr. Gandhi both good looking , white complexioned gentle, full of youth and vigor can add joy to life of millions men and joy to women specially young for dreams. It is better dream good things than zero, hero and MMSingh. We are famous for showing ingratitude when good leader help us. They slaughterd ZAB and politically slaughtering Musharraff as he is Mojahir and dark colored. Finally in Desh all boil down to color complexion and ethinicity.
Author lady said is right, he may be gone but still he will in hearts all Mohajirs the president Musharraf. People are ungrateful and will soon forget him and will start worshipping hero and zero as Sun and Moon and rising great leaders. One may not agree with marxism ( mostly as we can not read big books) but one has to agree when marx said masses are Asses and donkeys.
Mr. President you did jo as best as you can and you have right to retirement to peaceful retirement. Let us request and we are grateful to you as where ever you are we are sure you experience and knowledge will be available to highest level leadership til you breathe. Happy retirement and have peaceful gracefully you grow old for benefit of Ummah.
Thanks for coining words like moderate Islam , enlighened moderation as well as you gave formula for success of Nation " Subse Pehala Pakistan".
Good luck President.
Let it be new dawn and new rising sun.
That is nature of politics here.

#62...
correction...
Don't you think it is immoral to accept technology and various services of civilised people and try defend the cause of doom?

Re: # 60
masadi...
yep, entire world has witnessed that....
Transition of human society of Gandhar, Egypt etc. under influence of Islam....
BTW, any shame you people have remaining, specialy after defending islam and maligning western civilisation, and still living on the dole they provide (various loans and donations from USA and UK) and using their technology?
Don't you think it is immoral to accept technology and various services of the people and trying defend the cause of your doom?

Re: # 60

Which Islam?

Paky 'Halfi' Islam you mean?

nkg writes "Re: # 54
masadi....
so dirty cheap copy of mediaval arab beduine looter is good, mr. arab slave.... "

Nkg, I think you need to learn about Islam more carefully. It breaks the shackles of tradition and "cheap copies". setting the individual free to determine his own personality as the purpose behind his life, based on which will be his reward/punishment... You are free to form third rate copies of the white man's ways if you find such slavery enlightening, nobody is stopping you but do not try to superimpose your slavish mentality unto Islam...

Re: # 54
masadi....
so dirty cheap copy of mediaval arab beduine looter is good, mr. arab slave....

Re: # 44
Arjun...
So you would allow mediaval arab barbarism!!!!
Slaughtering animal in public place, covering women in gunny sack, causing noise pollution 5 times everyday....

No, wonder, these nuicenses are lowest in the social rank in Britan and rest of Europe!!!

European countries are really becoming very lenient like Indians and creating large space for medaival arab barbarism. They should learn from indian tragedy....

In #56, Please refrain from conclusions that reveal your moronic mentality,