What Talibanization?

Do you still believe you can win?

NFP, I used to go once to that 4th floor too, in those days I used to read Ayn Rand, and posted her quotations at the notice-board pretending it mattered to me. It was my first experience in an office-environment, they all said I was idealistic, young, to-be-corrupted. I fought for my internship there, got it by an essay I wrote passionately titled, "bloody hope." Fought for a child-hood friend to get that job as well. Won it for her.
A few years later, she left me, as friends often do, when you reach dead-ends, the bats crying off in the distant, an ozone layer with black pills -- Hejaab, Taliban has so many definitions. So does, Mysticism and Myth.

I think you will win, because I saw you there on that 4th floor, and I still see you here, the second time I've come.
I am no longer the same.

Independence.

The lips have turned black
like an art, we all hide
not just that woman in that scarf
we give it another name:
social life, decorum, propriety:
how do you do, Ma'am?

strange i thought I'd never feel friendship for the fourth floor, again.
In the nearest language, it always works.

NFP Mian,
Its time to start praying that this article gets 72 hits.

He shook his head, smiled, half-closed his eyes and said, "Allah aap koh hidayat dey aur …."

I interrupted: " … Aur aap koh aqal!"

Not bad, but the Batman comic line is the best one....

Paracha Sahib. Some experiences yove had. The parallel that comes to mind regarding Tablighis’ is that of bee and nectar. A bee only sucks on the flower where it will find juice.

Here is New York (and I guess elsewhere in the US as well) there is a similar group (traditionally known as the Bible Students “Taliban�) but more commonly referred to as Jehovah’s witnesses (not considered Christians by other Christians because of their rejection of the Trinity). But unlike the Tablighis or the Talibs, the JWs have had a huge impact on the civil liberties and laws of the US. Although they go house to house preaching (like Tablighis) but they don’t force themselves upon you in public places. They just sit on a bench with their magazine (Watch Tower) and hope that someone will talk to them. They are a very interesting group of people.

There’s a book “The American Religion� by Harold Bloom. A fascinating read about the role of religion (or modern American religion of the 19th century, e.g., Pentecostalism to Southern Baptism) on the US culture.

lol, you get the best of comments -- no fair!! the Batman comic line was the best, haha

The picture at the side of your new article, caught my eye, I couldn't help composing these lines:

http://chowk.com/ilogs/68287/49029

I'm only allowed to write at the zeir-e-zameen of chalk, that's the underground, where I and women exist. [remember, we're not listed, as you quoted so efficiently not so long ago.]

see you there.
In the nearest language, it always works.

FYI, Tableeghis, as observed closely, don't demand any kind of alms, extension of charity.
Neither do they shun non-practising muslims this sinister way.

To believe, one has to experience anything, let alone Tableegh, quite intricately.
At least you would agree, no book can be judged by its cover.

Let alone Islam and Tableegh, whereby one is instructed firstly to cultivate in oneself the power of self-abstinence. One cannot deny a provocative and inviting virgin with a pack of beer but few can.
These few have learned the art.

Propagation of abstinence to others come quite later. First victory over oneself.

Just my two cents.

isn't the 'pack of beer' haram, Mr. kaptain? are you suggesting, in the face of sin, one is allowed such an exception?

beer, an interesting alternative...yeah, it solves the terrible and unforeseen event that (god, devil, and mankind forbid you should set your eyes on) i.e a woman.

By the way, wasn't that...
"tell the believing men to lower their gaze...."
from the book of all books? but this justification of beer, is profound. Really, it matches all the tricks.

You were going to get this beer with a man, right?....ah!..I see.
In the nearest language, it always works.

Re: # 8 - getting the beer from a man kills the point..

I like killing points. So, Mr. Kaptain, this beer is served by an enticing "aurat"....Khatoon I mean....what is your point?

A good musalmaan can take vine from virgins, dear god, elahi, this is sacrilege. You make a bad example (model) for fellow Muslims.

tobah astaghfaar.


In the nearest language, it always works.

Subhe Azadi

ye daaG daaG ujaalaa, ye shab_gaziidaa sahar
wo intazaar thaa jis kaa, ye wo sahar to nahii.n


ye wo sahar to nahii.n jis kii aarazuu lekar
chale the yaar ki mil jaayegii kahii.n na kahii.n
falak ke dasht me.n taro.n kii aaKharii ma.nzil
kahii.n to hogaa shab-e-sust mauj kaa saahil
kahii.n to jaa ke rukegaa safinaa-e-Gam-e-dil
jawaa.N lahuu kii pur-asaraar shaaharaaho.n se
chale jo yaar to daaman pe kitane haath pa.De
dayaar-e-husn kii be-sabr Khwaab-gaaho.n se
pukaratii rahii.n baahe.n, badan bulaate rahe
bahut aziiz thii lekin ruKh-e-sahar kii lagan
bahut qarii.n thaa hasiinaan-e-nuur kaa daaman
subuk subuk thii tamannaa, dabii dabii thii thakan


sunaa hai ho bhii chukaa hai firaq-e-zulmat-e-nuur
sunaa hai ho bhii chukaa hai wisaal-e-ma.nzil-o-gaam
badal chukaa hai bahut ahl-e-dard kaa dastuur
nishaat-e-wasl halaal-o-azaab-e-hijr-e-haraam
jigar kii aag, nazar kii uma.ng, dil kii jalan
kisii pe chaaraa-e-hijraa.N kaa kuchh asar hii nahii.n
kahaa.N se aaii nigaar-e-sabaa, kidhar ko gaii
abhii chiraaG-e-sar-e-rah ko kuchh Khabar hii nahii.n
abhii garaani-e-shab me.n kamii nahii.n aaii
najaat-e-diida-o-dil kii gha.Dii nahii.n aaii
chale chalo ki wo ma.nzil abhii nahii.n aaii

Faiz Ahmed Faiz

Re: # 10

point is..
how many of 'em can resist such an offer..? given all the plausible inclines 'preferred' settings and timings..??

any..?

but not many..others have already or would put conscience to shame..
but that point of self-culmination is indeed a point of self-gratification..where others would cringe..
and this doesn't come easy and winners as said are less in this spectrum..only a handful..for an example..
313 Vs. the 1000 armed with weapons and women..interestingly the latter and former are Ws..;)..

this is the point..

Re: # 12

and third W is Wine..

Weapon, Women and Wine..these bring the tautness of arrogance..

no discrimination meant to ladies..that's not the point here..

kaptain, you seem to know a little too much about these settings and timings.

Arrogance is a quality I admire the most in Iqbal.
khudee ko kar bulund itna kei har taqdeer se pehle
khuda bandei se khud pooche, bata teree raza kia hai

didn't Junoon, before I lost all track of them, make these lines go round?

There's no knowing God without arrogance, "no nor women either/
though, by your smiling, you seem to say so." -- Hamlet, Shakespeare.
In the nearest language, it always works.

Re: # 14

I don't see why you have to jump each time you hear the word "woman" and scream bloody murder. The point made by kaptain was quite sane, until you decided to shed some feminist light on it, now it's lost in all the "I am woman, hear me roar" crap..!!

Anyway, coming back to the point, I would say good going kaptain, point taken, albeit with a grain of salt, just like the article written by NFP should be taken.

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