Dost Mittar August 14, 2008
#1 Posted by Urstruly on August 15, 2008 3:34:42 pm
After seeing Shekh Abdul Aziz shaheed taking 3000+ unarmed Kashmiris to LOC boldly announcing that they want to celebrate 61st anniversary of Pakistan in Azad Kashmir's capital Muzaffarabad and how cowardly Indian Army shot at those unarmed Kashmirsi, killing 100s, indiscriminately, does even a modicum of doubt remains in your and anyones mind that Kashmiris want to stay with India?
Abdul Aziz Shaheed's body was drapped in Pakistani flag, in the heart of Sri Nagar, amid a funeral crowd of over several hundered thousand; despite a shoot-to-kill curfew order. There is no more bold statement than that that they will never submit to the tyrranny of Hindu and accept the vassalage of hindu occupation.
In the name of good conscience I appeal to every Hindu:
Let these people go.
Free them.
Free Kashmir.
Live and let live.
Abdul Aziz Shaheed's body was drapped in Pakistani flag, in the heart of Sri Nagar, amid a funeral crowd of over several hundered thousand; despite a shoot-to-kill curfew order. There is no more bold statement than that that they will never submit to the tyrranny of Hindu and accept the vassalage of hindu occupation.
In the name of good conscience I appeal to every Hindu:
Let these people go.
Free them.
Free Kashmir.
Live and let live.
#2 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2008 3:55:18 pm
I agree. Muslims of Kashmir will never accept to be part of India.
#3 Posted by _arjun16 on August 15, 2008 4:44:44 pm
#1 Posted by Urstruly on August 15, 2008 3:34:42 pm
Let these people go.
They are free to go...to pakiland..for good..
I'll pay the bus fare for the first 100 "kashmiris" who want to go to pakiland...
Let these people go.
They are free to go...to pakiland..for good..
I'll pay the bus fare for the first 100 "kashmiris" who want to go to pakiland...
#4 Posted by _arjun16 on August 15, 2008 4:47:06 pm
kuldip nayyar thinkgs it's politics uber alles...
and the "kashmiris" rioting over land given to a trust isn't islam uber alles..
the only solution to this is to repeal article 370 and do to kashmir what the hans have done to tibet and are doing to xinjiang...
and the "kashmiris" rioting over land given to a trust isn't islam uber alles..
the only solution to this is to repeal article 370 and do to kashmir what the hans have done to tibet and are doing to xinjiang...
#5 Posted by HP on August 15, 2008 4:56:01 pm
This is an interesting article on the situation.
India-Pakistan relations in free fall
By M K Bhadrakumar
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH15Df01.html
DM Wrote a factual article but I don't get this shtick about the ISI in the first paragraph. The article would have been better without that.
This is not the first time the ISI had nothing to do with the issue in Kashmir. Both Congress and BJP played a little game in Kashmir which is getting out of hands now.
I think the Indian Security establishment must be big time PO-ed at the Mohni Mohni Singh sarkar... They will shave his beard off...Elections in November!
How could any one blame Pakistan for the problems in Kashmir? They are all created by Indians themselves... and they cry like babies when the sht in diaper begins to dry and chip inside!
India-Pakistan relations in free fall
By M K Bhadrakumar
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH15Df01.html
DM Wrote a factual article but I don't get this shtick about the ISI in the first paragraph. The article would have been better without that.
This is not the first time the ISI had nothing to do with the issue in Kashmir. Both Congress and BJP played a little game in Kashmir which is getting out of hands now.
I think the Indian Security establishment must be big time PO-ed at the Mohni Mohni Singh sarkar... They will shave his beard off...Elections in November!
How could any one blame Pakistan for the problems in Kashmir? They are all created by Indians themselves... and they cry like babies when the sht in diaper begins to dry and chip inside!
#6 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2008 6:13:59 pm
Urstruly:
You should give Indians some credit; at least they are not using helicopter gunships or white powder.
You should give Indians some credit; at least they are not using helicopter gunships or white powder.
#7 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2008 6:16:57 pm
arjun#4:
Your security forces can't handle the fallout from a temporary transfer of a meagre 100 acres of land, and you think they will be able to cope with the repeal of article 370?
Your security forces can't handle the fallout from a temporary transfer of a meagre 100 acres of land, and you think they will be able to cope with the repeal of article 370?
#8 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2008 6:18:22 pm
HP#5:
Are you suggesting that there is no Kashmir desk in the ISI?
Are you suggesting that there is no Kashmir desk in the ISI?
#9 Posted by _arjun16 on August 15, 2008 6:26:51 pm
#7 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2008 6:16:57 pm
Your security forces can't handle the fallout from a temporary transfer of a meagre 100 acres of land
There are about 40 kashmiris who'd disagree with you...if they were alive, that is..
Kuldip Nayyar types have been saying india had no choice but to give up kashmir for a long long time...and yet, nothing has changed on the ground...
Your security forces can't handle the fallout from a temporary transfer of a meagre 100 acres of land
There are about 40 kashmiris who'd disagree with you...if they were alive, that is..
Kuldip Nayyar types have been saying india had no choice but to give up kashmir for a long long time...and yet, nothing has changed on the ground...
#10 Posted by _arjun16 on August 15, 2008 6:41:04 pm
#1 Posted by Urstruly on August 15, 2008 3:34:42 pm
What happened to your master plan...you know...the one where you wanted the government of pakiland to start an immigration scheme for indian muslims..especially entrepreneurs..
how's that going? you think azim premji will come to pakiland?
why don't you extend that plan to the "kashmiris" you love so much?
What happened to your master plan...you know...the one where you wanted the government of pakiland to start an immigration scheme for indian muslims..especially entrepreneurs..
how's that going? you think azim premji will come to pakiland?
why don't you extend that plan to the "kashmiris" you love so much?
#11 Posted by parthaab on August 15, 2008 7:03:38 pm
Who are the REAL terrorists?
http://tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne230808Incoldblood.asp
http://tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne230808descriptionof_astruggle.asp
http://sify.com/news/cities/chandigarh/fullstory.php?id=14729496
http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=595728
http://tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne230808Incoldblood.asp
http://tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne230808descriptionof_astruggle.asp
http://sify.com/news/cities/chandigarh/fullstory.php?id=14729496
http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=595728
#12 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2008 7:07:51 pm
arjun:
"There are about 40 kashmiris who'd disagree with you...if they were alive, that is.."
..and about 40 lakhs who agree with me, or you going to send them to the same place where the '40' went?
"There are about 40 kashmiris who'd disagree with you...if they were alive, that is.."
..and about 40 lakhs who agree with me, or you going to send them to the same place where the '40' went?
#13 Posted by _arjun16 on August 15, 2008 7:19:45 pm
#12 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2008 7:07:51 pm
..and about 40 lakhs who agree with me
They are free to move to pakiland...
..and about 40 lakhs who agree with me
They are free to move to pakiland...
#14 Posted by VRV on August 15, 2008 7:43:09 pm
Partha,
Cant diasgree on the links u gave. It's indeed those ppl who gave ammunition to the separatists. Secondly the nonchalant attitude of the Union govt, aggressive Hindutva of RSS coupled with faslehoods propagated by the Valley leadership contributed to this mess in Kashmir now. The Pakistan factor just happened for no fault of its own. It's the Hurriyat pl who flaunted it. There's no Riaz Khokar in Dehli now. ;)
It's clear now that Union govt dont have any policy or pulse on the hapenings in Kashmir.
Left liberalism is admirable in open societies but plz do remember that ppl like u wud be hauled on coals in Islamic countries. Communist Paty of India who voted for creation of Pakistan cudnt open shop there. Therefore pl dont feed milk to snakes.
Cant diasgree on the links u gave. It's indeed those ppl who gave ammunition to the separatists. Secondly the nonchalant attitude of the Union govt, aggressive Hindutva of RSS coupled with faslehoods propagated by the Valley leadership contributed to this mess in Kashmir now. The Pakistan factor just happened for no fault of its own. It's the Hurriyat pl who flaunted it. There's no Riaz Khokar in Dehli now. ;)
It's clear now that Union govt dont have any policy or pulse on the hapenings in Kashmir.
Left liberalism is admirable in open societies but plz do remember that ppl like u wud be hauled on coals in Islamic countries. Communist Paty of India who voted for creation of Pakistan cudnt open shop there. Therefore pl dont feed milk to snakes.
#15 Posted by _arjun16 on August 15, 2008 8:09:56 pm
I wonder if capt clueless will post on this thread...I wonder if I'll need to post his hilarious predictions on the kashmir issue being resolved in pakiland's favor...
I'll do this..paki ruppe is at 77 already...if it goes to 80 to the $$, I'll post it...to give pakis some comic relief
I'll do this..paki ruppe is at 77 already...if it goes to 80 to the $$, I'll post it...to give pakis some comic relief
#16 Posted by _arjun16 on August 15, 2008 8:12:22 pm
A-o-A....72 times (460+22)...do the math..
Pakistan Says 460 Militants, 22 Troops Killed in Bajaur
By Ayaz Gul
Islamabad
15 August 2008
Pakistani officials say security forces have killed at least 460 al-Qaida-linked militants in a tribal region bordering Afghanistan. VOA's Ayaz Gul reports, the week-long clashes also have left 22 troops dead and forced more than 200,000 people to flee to safer areas.
Pakistan Says 460 Militants, 22 Troops Killed in Bajaur
By Ayaz Gul
Islamabad
15 August 2008
Pakistani officials say security forces have killed at least 460 al-Qaida-linked militants in a tribal region bordering Afghanistan. VOA's Ayaz Gul reports, the week-long clashes also have left 22 troops dead and forced more than 200,000 people to flee to safer areas.
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