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Global Warming: Green with Controversy

Mutaal Mooquin August 15, 2008

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#8 Posted by Regards on August 20, 2008 10:57:03 am
We do not have to go in fine technical details of changes in nature. Given the high density of population, at least in south asia and not in north America, there is hardly any possibility of absorbing large scale population movement for those who depend primarily on agriculture.

A case study was visible in Bundelkhand in India, UP. A high productivity area saw draught for 3 successive years and ensuing famine and its consequences. UP govt CM Mayawati - a dalit, having earned 12M$ as 'gift from local poors' blamed central govt and vice versa. God factor was exploited by Mullahs and Pundits to wring out whatever was left of human godliness.

This points to futur where even minor changes in crop patterns will suffer a multipler effect by religious and political exploiters to a total social breakdown.

I do not see any solution as long as Allah and Bhagwan are around.
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#7 Posted by quin on August 20, 2008 6:51:39 am
Re: # 4 & 5, nkg, majumdar
absolutely, without making fundamnetal changes in our way of thinking, in our way of liviing and in our behaviours, all other solutions are ad hoc solutions and will not hold. Consequence of humanity's actions are staring back right in the eyes. If we do not take the chllange we are doomed. But who listens in this fast paced, greeed insipired, ego centric world. We can only keep doing our part, little by little, that is all we can do and must do. Thanks for your feedback.
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#6 Posted by quin on August 20, 2008 6:45:41 am
Re: # 3 Delirium, well said. I appreciate your perceptive take on the CO2 question. The claim that excessive CO2 is beneficial is not only doubtful it is ludicrous and shocking. It is a bait for the simple minded people like the one I cited. It is misleading to say the least and at its worst is criminal. The big corporations are spending millions to spread misinformation. Greed, greed, greed. All boils down to that.
The other point you mentioned about balance is the key point. Nature / universe runs on fine balance. From a tiny cell of living being to most complex systems in the universe every thing runs on a fine balance. (I don’t want to sound religious here but I cannot help recalling 55: 7-8 where Quran says, it is all on a balanced scale, so take caution to not disturb this balanced scale - this verse has so stayed with me for its profound wisdom).
Human tragedy can be summed up in one notion - that is, we have not learned to stay on a balanced course (here again, balanced course is more apt translation of 'siratul mustaqueem than the straight path - all Urdu readers know qaim and mustaqueem have same roots).
I was also enthralled to understand this fine balance in case of CO2. If CO2 in that tiny amount was not there earth will be inhabitable as it will freeze. But excess of it will make it inhabitable too. The fine balance.
And we still don't know the balance of oceans - the big unknown as the scientists warns us.
Thanks for your comments and compliment.
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#5 Posted by majumdar on August 19, 2008 10:30:58 pm
Nkg moshai,

It is high time people switched to low energy lifestyles and organic/natural farming.

Regards
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#4 Posted by nkg on August 19, 2008 10:08:53 pm
Re: # 2
quin...
China is already doomed ecologically. Some part of India is facing the same (price of low cost manufacturing units), like Gujrat....

Apart from industrial pollution, natural imballance is causing much of the damage. Bangladesh is one example of it. Due to human explosion, large number of rivers are not existant now. Which is effecting water management....
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#3 Posted by Delirium on August 19, 2008 9:59:29 pm
The claim that excessive proportion of CO2 in the atmosphere can be beneficial is highly doubtful.

Nature always tend to maintain a balance and harmony between its various components which in case of atmospheric gases is nearly ( Nitrogen 78 % , Oxygen 21 % rest including CO2 1% ). An excess of any of the gases would only mean substitution that tantamount to an ecological imbalance.

The argument that excess of CO2 results in more greenery does not sound convincing; For it is the plant that absorbs Co2 during the photosynthesis and maintains its balance and not the other way round. (Vegetation consumes CO2 and converts it into oxygen thus creating a balance between the two but does CO2 accelerate growth?)

Furthermore, any excess in the proportion of Co2 would be (most likely) at the cost of either nitrogen or oxygen that would be have serious repercussions for animal and planet life.

Thanks for bringing up another very informative and eye opening article.
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#2 Posted by quin on August 19, 2008 8:51:20 am
Re: # 1 nkg, No doubt we face a myriad of problems. If we are wise enough (collectively) we must know more and more about each of these problems because, our very existence is at stake. To some it may sound like gloom of doomsday scenario. But in my mind there is no doubt where we are heading with our despicable way of living, with greed holding the globe a hostage.
Every locality has its own specific problems and we have to start somewhere. Now I have huge issue with how India and China (as their impact will be the biggest)are seeing the road to progress. It will just add to the pace of global suicide, the process which West started.
Can East not lead the way, or we just monkey others?
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#1 Posted by nkg on August 18, 2008 4:04:52 am
We may not visualise the changes due to high carbon emisssion, but high population is causing damage to nature, specialy squeezing space for animals,birds,insects....It is real danger...Targetting USA and Europe will not bring back natural harmony in India ( that matter, may be, Pakistan also)....
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