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Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays

Mutaal Mooquin August 26, 2008

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#79 Posted by pinku on August 29, 2008 7:24:43 am
Re #77 Posted by pinku ,

Who flagged that comment, 77 of mine, let me know if you are not coward and also the reason of why you did so????
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#78 Posted by guru on August 29, 2008 4:17:12 am
Ana Tai,

You had your beer when you were freshman when you must be 18. Our little brave goddess Sheetal Devi barely half that age had exhilarating time with Shantic Jihadis. Please raise your glass for her next time. As I suspected cadbury kids only qualification to fame is when they had their beer and other 4 letter activities. Your poetic bleeding heart must be wondering who is this brave Devi. Please be patient and reach to the bottom of this article:

Police have recovered three mobile telephones with local BSNL SIM cards from the possession of three militants gunned down last night by Army at Chinore whose numbers have given very vital information to the investigating officials. Through the three mobile telephones, the Pakistanis, frequently received directions from Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) network both within J&K and across the border with the latest direction being to kill all civilians including four children before getting eliminated by the troops.

IGP Jammu K Rajendera added that the militants received a number of calls throughout the day including some calls from a Thoraya satellite telephone. He declined to disclose the mobile numbers on the ground that police was extracting entire data from them and it would expose militants’ contacts including the persons, who might have helped them spent 30 hours in Kanachak and reveal their ‘exact motive’ in Jammu.

One of the three mobile telephones in the possession of slain ultras was 9469289726. Official sources told the Excelsior that a LeT commander had dialled mobile telephone of an electronic media’s Reporter from his Thoraya satellite phone and gave them one of the number (9469289726) asking the Reporter to speak to the militant inside.

Sources said as soon as the militants entered the house and took positions inside, they received a direction on their phone from one of the commander to eliminate all male adult members and keep women and children hostages. Thereafter, they opened firing and gunned down Ashok Kumar Manhas of Thathri, a teacher putting up as a tenant in Billoo Ram’s house, Sandeep Singh alias Kala, a neighbour of Billoo and Sham Murari, a brave jawan of Territorial Army, who had all alone intruded into the house while chasing the militants from Domana in a bid to rescue the children. However, Murari was trapped inside as he had no weapon with him.

At this stage, sources said, militants asked Tarsem Lal, brother of Sunita Devi (wife of Billoo Ram) to come out of a room they had bolted from inside and taken shelter after the killing of three persons. However, acting tactfully, Tarsem pulled all four children of Billoo Ram and his wife Sunita Devi besides himself into the adjoining kitchen after coming out of the room and locked the kitchen from inside.

In another important development, Army today revealed that they had flown 10 highly trained ‘para commandos’, who were part of a ‘Special Force’ from Chandigarh to launch the final assault in killing two militants in the evening and simultaneously ensuring that the hostages are saved.

"The ‘para commandos’, numbering 10, three of them officers, were flown here from Chandigarh within an hour and executed the operation so meticulously that it didn’t give any chance to the ultras to kill the civilians. While the second ultra was killed around 7.30 pm, the remaining militant was eliminated few minutes later", sources said, adding the troops announced end of the operation in the mid-night as they wanted to ensure that there was no ultra left inside.

Meanwhile, bodies of all three militants have been shifted to GMC Jammu where post-mortem was conducted on them this afternoon. The bodies will be kept in the GMC for 72 hours. Two of them had sustained 10-12 shots while the militant killed in the day had sustained numerous bullet wounds.

Billoo’s eldest daughter, Sheetal Devi, who was just 9, wanted to become an Army officer after seeing yesterday’s brutal acts by the Pakistanis. She was witness to three killings and injuries to her mother.

"Even now I’m feeling gun shots in my ears", she said, adding she would like to be an Army officer to teach a lesson to the militants. People were all praise for Sunita Devi’s brother, Tarsem Lal, who displayed courage and kept the children locked inside, thus, exposing them from coming in direct contact with the militants.
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#77 Posted by pinku on August 28, 2008 11:03:33 pm
Re #73 Posted by guru on,

You are right, when I was writing that time-pass poem..

I said "baki bacha" sach, truth...

kya hai jo baki nahin....

Baki nahin hain vo log jo bheed se door hokar bhi bheed ke saath rahate the... vo log jo sach ke saath chal padte the akele hi... jinhain angreji aane na aane ka gum nahin tha... jo seedha bolte the, bina apni language/grammar ko dekhe.. Say Kabir or those ancient wise people who wrote Upanishads.. They never needed a party of Mushaiyra, nothing...

Now we have people who write so much, but all they write is a clerk's calculation and a biased lie... most of them.. and you have tons of them today...
I don't know about Faraj, nor do i care much about poetry, till it accompanies good thoughts... good doesn't mean "tuk bandi" and "jaam/shaam" type lines. Those are empty wah-wah poems. Urdu/Hindi has so few ending of words (so many sounding in Ha, hee, or half of it ending with "aa" sound) that almost anybody can do some tuk-bandi in hindi/urdu.



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#76 Posted by guru on August 28, 2008 10:48:04 pm
10 more minutes wait
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#75 Posted by guru on August 28, 2008 10:45:32 pm
Pinkuji,

As usual you are so wise and poetic.

"Aham doodasmi, rickshasmi."

As we get into Samadhi and become one with our given task "dood As Mi" and "riksaw As Mi" we contribute the best to this world. In such Samadhi we forget ourselves. I personally experienced it s many times. First when designing a VLSI chip with just owel around west in a room with just table, a stool and lamp I forgot when the evening came, morning happened, again evening, again morning, ... 58 hours on the stool under the lamp ... no food no defecating or urinating ... time just flew by. No tiredness... biked 2 miles to work in snow-sleet in vigor like a well rested teen. that day was really a blessed one.
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#74 Posted by guru on August 28, 2008 10:33:31 pm
nkg,

It's kind of late and the better half is suspecting my G-giri on the web. I can keep my mobile on for 10 more minutes to hear from you. Seems Ana Tai has given up on me.
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#73 Posted by guru on August 28, 2008 10:25:40 pm
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#68 Posted by guru on August 28, 2008 8:28:53 pm
Ana Didi, testicularji and Baki well meaning folks,

You guys are soo good with written word. Even in Marathi I was very bad, barely passing 36/100 and never reaching to the questions on essay or poems. Anyway, let's get on to the great task of right Shradhanjali to great souls who have departed, some willingly and others not so willingly. My half ana worth cut and paste. Thanks to BJ! Those long sentences with hyphens though I, poetic Harijan do not understand must be literary, so here it goes :

Great dhoodhwalas , like great heartists of any other kind, do not belong to one community, one region, or any one people. They represent a resource for human beings at large and – like a fountain which only happens to sprout from any one location but is not limited by the same and which gets characterized solely on the basis of the refreshing quality of the nourishment that it produces – and not by who makes a claim to it! My condolences to the countless individuals that Jammu Dhoodhwala surely touched through his unadulterated milk - who now feel a loss to their lives due to his departure!

Please replace the Dhoodhwala to Rickshawala, Armywala, Policewala, the teacher and the student from Jammu. These kind of "wordy" eulogy might be Faraz's liking but other heartists want "living poems." I am sure Ana Didi must be overwhelmed by your donations. Anaji would you please give your address or the bank account which you must have opened for this Jammu cause. tahmedji did you cut your $1K cheque?
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#67 Posted by masadi on August 28, 2008 7:37:13 pm
thank you!
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#66 Posted by akcheema on August 28, 2008 7:20:26 pm
Re: # 65; TNIM sahib

that sir sounds fair enough to me ! (thumbs up)
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#65 Posted by masadi on August 28, 2008 7:13:55 pm
BJ sahib, the old masadi was never discredited, in his calling a spade a sob, you all saw the reality of your selfish existence, which unable to change, you turned against the old masadi. Long live the passion and honesty of the old masadi, and may TNI incorporate those traits with some new plastic for a plastic generation for greater effectiveness.

AKcheema sahib, the difference of posting on chowk you may consider futile because it reflects the caliber of your posts, for me it is fulfilling, it organizes my thoughts, inspires a few folk and keeps my soul feeling for humanity, for judgment time is nigh soon will humanity rejoice, and the futility mongers will mourn...


Have a nice day,

TNI Masadi
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#64 Posted by akcheema on August 28, 2008 6:37:31 pm
Re: # 62

i am not defending or condoning "futility" as you put it ... in fact, I am the least frequent "discussionist" here

absolutely ALL discussions here are futile, including the one you were having with tahmed; you guys have been having them for years, and things happen (or don't) regardless

for me, just a bit of fun!

Khuda Hafiz
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