Why Zardari Should Be President!

hamidm #53 actually i only vaguely recall hearing about this shahid massoud before you mentioned him - like i said, i think it is more useful for purposes of forming an opinion on politics to look at the forest rather than the trees.

I of course have no doubt that what you say about him is quite true - after all, he is doing nothing different than what mqm has done. i.e., last year, when it thought the dictator was going to stay, mqm had treated ppp like the mafia treats rival gangs - and now is happy to be a junior partner to ppp. similarly, until early this year, mqm had claimed to be the only voice against waderaism in pakistan - and happily went around making deals with the biggest wadera around!!

EVEN IF these self-seekers were the only political forces in Pakistan, we are still better off than without Musharraf for obvious reasons.

But, that is not all. The fact is these self-seekers are not the only political forces in Pakistan. The true democratic forces are in fact not these wily politicians. The true democratic forces are a dynamic civil society led by lawyers and journalists, a powerful "fourth estate" (press), and an intelligent, well-informed electorate whose voice in elections can no longer be shutout by a dictator. These are the forces that toppled musharraf's government, not the drawing room schemers making deals in foreign countries.

PMLN has, wisely in my view, chosen to throw in its lot with these democratic forces. In doing so it is looking Zardari bandwagon. This will be good for Pakistan for which they will no doubt get full credit in history. And perhaps (although this is not so important either for Pakistan, or even for the individual concerned), in due course this will prove to be the winning strategy with voters as well.

The above is of course going beyond the "personality wave-length" that you seem determined to stick with. But hope this lengthy answer that I have troubled myself with providing while hurricane hanna blesses us with rain outside will make sense to you at some point.

Hamidm sahib:

I do not understand what is this obsession in Pakistan for independent judiciary. Do you?

In America, Bush administration appoints justices and shifts judiciary. He cannot fire justices, no one can, the House can impeach just as it can impeach the president. They outlast presidents.

Why Pakistanis don't ask for such a change in constitution, rather than be obsessed obtain re-appoint of old.

What made them more independent than the present justices?

Gangaram ki samajh mein na aaye.

Tahmed sahib:

After Zardari’s election, please at the very least acknowledge, Hamidm sahib’s acute sense of defining the roadmap to “change� and “power� in Pakistan. Between his narebazi he had been talking of a transition that did not complete in Nov/Dec 2007 (or whenever the first elections were due), it completed in Sep 2008. In between someone knocked off BB and changed the leader at the top. Hamidm sahib would change his “narebazi�, just as frequently and shamelessly as the wind of shame blows in Pakistan.

“Hamidm sahib Zindabad�,
the lone cyber warrior of Chowk.

Please join me, so that I can say once again
“Hamidm sahib Zindabad�.

and YLH I still hold this grudge against you when you threatened to kill me, if you are man that you say you are, then prdouce one article out of your imagination rather than research, and I will call it even!

This site is frequented by so manybig wigs, people with the inside info, can anyone credible kindly educate us for the reasons for Zardari' daughter's attempts to kill herself. The rumor has it that she was the one who called her mother to pop her head out of the bullet proof car at the behest of her father, only to realize later that she was an accomplice to her murder. And what about the Prince Bilawal's refusal to tie the know with Fatima Bhutto?

man, I tell you, Pakistan was doomed that the day we started giving leverage to "chooti yea" now I don't expect our NRP and our friends across the border to know what that stands for, but that for sure stands for the likes of the writers and all those who have stood for his line of thought... Well this day might as well be the saddest day in my entire life and I can say for sure that "so long Pakistan"

Re: # 52

tahmed mian,

... can you tell me what happened to dr. shahid masood - the champion of islam, the defender of the faith, the man who berated zardari and benazir and called them thieves and scoundrels ? .......... i will give you a hint: the chairman of ptv makes around 22 lakh rupees a month .....

king zardari zindabad !

and today is a great day for Pakistan thanks to the courage of the cj, i may add. no thanks to lotas, mqm ghoondas, or even zardari himself.

hamidm #49 I tell you to try and see the forest, and you come back and ask me to foretell the future career of a particular tree (the cj in this case). Unlike you (with your past predictions for the "rising sun") and bulleye (with his constant predictions), I am not in the business of predicting which stock will rise or all, which horse will win or lose a particular race.

Today is a great day for Pakistan - not because 10% was elected president, but because we have a president who has been elected per the rules (rather than thru a mockery of the rules, which is what your former hero did past 8 years).

hamıd mian; '... okay, name one ...... '

hmm....ı thınk aıtezaz would be a good choıce....raza rabbanı would be ok.....javed hashmı would be ok...akhter mengal from baluchıstan....sheıkh rashıd would be ok, had he not become a lota...he ıs about as self made as they come in pakıstani polıtıcs....

there are many more.....zardarı ıs at the bottom of the lıst...had benazır mentıoned your name ın her wıll, you would be the presıdent today.....

thıs govt. ısn't goıng to last more than three years....dıd you see gılanı's performance ın the usa...he ıs consıdered the bıll clınton of ppp, ın terms of personalıty, knowledge etc...

thıs govt cannot run a dıstrıct much less a country....many of them wouldn't know whether canada ıs north of usa or south....how ın the world are they goıng to fıgure out where pakıstan should fıt ınto the world's current sıtuatıon....

ın any case they are brıghter than sarah palın...and not nearly as fundamentalıst....so maybe there ıs stıll hope....

Re: # 48

tahmed,

.... you still haven't answered my question - is droopy going to be re-installed or re-appointed? .... and are the unwashed masses better off under king zardari ? .... is nawaz sharif coming back from london? ...... where is aitizaz ahsan? ...... when will allah ditta find atta to feed his ten miserable runts ? ..... when will islamabad have more electricity than baghdad ?

#47 hamidm: sigh..re-read #27. to repeat - the judges have shot their arrow, fired their bullet, done their job, by saving Pakistan from a rogue general.

tahmed,

.... are these judges being reinstated or reappointed ???? ......... be careful, there is a big difference that might not be apparent to a senior citizen like you .......

..... i just heard the new law minister asking your droopy-eyed judge to take an bait (oath) on zardari's hand and join the judiciary before he can be 'considered' for appointment as the cj ......... snicker! snicker!

Re: # 45

faruk mian,

.... we don't have 'ordinary people' in pakistan - we have pakis ......... there is a big difference

re: hamdim2 #44
There you go again looking for a messiah.

There is a lot of power in ordinary people doing small things.

Regards,

Faruk

Re: # 42

faruk mian,

"If and there is a big if, Pakistan gets an independent or quasi independent judiciary as a result of all these machinations it's worth it. "

...... it is a biiiiiig if .......i am all for an independent judiciary but i don't think it is going to happen ..... just look at all these 'independent' judges lining up to take oath even when they know that the droopy-eyed one will be left hanging in the wind .........you forget that we are pakis