There is no ‘honour’ in killing

Another sad chapter scripted by the ignorant so-called fundamentalists who in their hollow minds assume they did something good by killing those who wanted to exercise their God given right to chose their life-mate.

What fundamentals and whose fundamentals do they follow?

Imposing a spouse on someone is not what the religion is about, and when the time is right one should seek to indulge in an appropriate relationship of their choice.

No doubt the parents in most cases specially when they are learned enough are able to carry on this as an "assisted marriage" instead of an "arranged i.e. imposed marriage".

Its no hidden fact that the mullahs who pretend to be gazing down are one of the class who are blessed with more than one wives while they peep through their long beards for the next one on line, but when it comes time to counsel those who approach them to seek scholarly advice under such conditions, such people are always blessed with the screwed up opinions concerning how to stop a child from seeking a spouse of their choice and declaring the choice of spouse as an illegal even a corrupt action!

It is mullahs too who brainwash ill-educated masses with such concepts that the parents have the entire authority over who they can or cannot be married to, it is also mullahs who provoke such unfortunate events by ill-advising the illiterate parents as to what the religion says about exercising their rights and how to frame up and portray innocent ones to have committed the worlds biggest crime by seeking a life mate, by visiting one or being seen meeting one, that is ultimate for these mullahs to encourage the illiterate by prescribing death penalty for those who merely met the person and no more.

Back to the future we return with the existence of this mullah culture and their followers, who readily pretend and assume the worst without having witnessed even a fraction of a crime they blame on someone and execute them cruelly.

Where all these who dramatize the situations and execute innocent individuals will be situated in the day of judgment and how will they defend their heinous crimes?

Its hightime that the rulers of the nation places a chastity belt over the faces and mouths of all these misguiding mullahs without any relief, as well as those parliamentarians who defend such crimes and telling their colleagues to hush and not fuss about the so-called traditions, they certainly deserve to be treated like the tradition they talk about.

‘Buried alive’ women were hit by blunt instruments - http://www.dawn.com/2008/09/04/top7.htm - the bodies of two victims have been found & exhumed. Apparently they were already dead when buried, and also they were not shot but hit with stones and sticks. But as stated in my article, these are details in the larger picture.

Parthaab, stop making allegations about Aarushi's father now. How dare you say this about a man who has had all charges dropped against him, and how dare you continue to imply that Aarushi's killing was an honour crime. Try and stay out of things instead of going on like a stuck record.
Chowk editors, kindly note, this is character assassination of a murder victim and her father.

I don't care if my gentle hindu friends call us names on this...instead of pointing to others, we need to look to accept this with humility. As a people, our inaction in honor killings makes us all complicit in the actions of the few.
with much respect,
thinking storm

People are killing their daughters and giving it a honour killing name,No its IGNORANCE,ITS 2008,men and women have feedom to choose their partners. today all over the world Pakistan is known as a country of terrorists and ignorant people, cold blooded and barbaric honor killing of five innocent women in Balochistan is another black spot on nation’s character,NOT ONLY THAT,these bunch of idiots and ignorant people make it Islamic thing,as afew weeks ago this pakistani guy killed his daughter in US state of GEORGIA,because his daughter was asking for divorce from her husband,father killed her and told the court that it is against islamic teachings to get divorce,the problem is Pakistanis are brain washed by fanatic mullahs who does not know anything about Islam.
Mwaqar

Re: # 5
Partha-babu
Rizwan's case is different. Any father of stature Ashok Todi will not see his daughter at the hands of dirt poor, cheat. He had money and can not punish his daughter. So, the poor chap had to secrifice."

So why should not Dirt Poor women /girl be deal the same way as Rizwan was dealt that is killed

Why should not powerfull rich let his son marry a gold digger 'neeche aurat'for 'phasaoing his blessed son .Why the standards are different for equally 'exploited' men as bleeding hard only for fairer sex .Men die silenly of stress high B.P. Heart not reporatable as death caused by demanding women

Only those familiar with the cae of Rizwan quoted by NKG need comment

Oh, allow me, you ignorant religious nutcase (re #14) …

Such issues should be the focus of the ummah … which is too busy chasing Ahmadis out of mosques and looking for apostates to kill on a Friday afternoon. And you zee MiaN, are in bed with these nutcases.

There really was no need to bring up religion here, you know … but you just couldn't help taking a cheap shot ...

As long as you don't drag religion into it, you ignorant socialite NGO type, I'm fine with what you say.

Leadenwinter writes "We employed Mr. Haseeb-Ur-Rehman in the capacity of Temporary Legal Consultant upon recommendation by associates..."

Arjun mian, why don't you employ your bot skills and find for us who this person is and where he is employed. This person who is a front for the Pakistan Army criminals must be exposed...

Thank you for your itme

Leadenwinter Amry apologist writes "The only "crime" any General has committed is not letting the Pakistani civilian leadership and the "democratic community" (read prostitutes) steal money for a decade or so. Anything else which the public objects to.. they only do so in their illiteracy and fundamentalism"

To Leadenwinter, the Generals of the Pakistan Army are like angels who descend from on top to guide the nation, being free of any corruption. The condition they have left the nation in after another bout of their direct rule reveals otherwise. It reveals nearly a decade of incompetence and lost development that has put us on the bottom of the world of nations in almost every social indicator of worth. The petty "corruption" of the civilians that he uses as smokescreen to hide the crimes of the generals reveals total incompetence in assessing a social structure. In a structure where the military is the dominant institution and its deliberate and oft interference in the state has turned it into a rudimentary predatory institution, you expect such corruption, but its blame lies directly with the generals of the Pakistan Army and their interference in state affairs, even then their own corruption where they have captured not only a few billion here or there but a substantial portion of the country's economy, wholesale, not to mention its land, and the fact that they have destroyed all institutions of civil society and show complete contempt for the people of this country (like leadenwinter) tells me that they should be de-wardified and hung, the whole lot of them for crimes against humanity....

Leadenwinter, your cheap-shot regarding me making money is a pathetic attempt at absolving the barbarians you worship. I have not made a red cent from any government source, other than being underpaid for teaching 4 classes at below market rate....

In #10 Ignore Mr. Haseeb-Ur-Rehman's letter of reference. :)

To whom it may concern,

We employed Mr. Haseeb-Ur-Rehman in the capacity of Temporary Legal Consultant upon recommendation by associates. He worked with us for the period of four weeks earlier this year. He proved to be diligent and hard working often putting in extra hours of his own accord and provided solid advice and guidance invaluable to our concerns. Haseeb also produced documents and drafted letters for our use. He is friendly, of good character and a pleasure to work with.

There'll be another martial law soon enough.. . The World's political climate is far to dangerous these days to let monkeys play parliamentary democracy for very long and its either that or the nation of Pakistan come November.

The only "crime" any General has committed is not letting the Pakistani civilian leadership and the "democratic community" (read prostitutes) steal money for a decade or so. Anything else which the public objects to.. they only do so in their illiteracy and fundamentalism.

Enjoy your democracy .. and Masadi :) .. you should steal as much as you can now.. you wont get a chance later.. maybe you can invite me to dinner.

"Change in Pakistan, as in every other case in history can only come from above. "

Change like punishing rogue generals for their crimes? And change coming from above like a hangman's noose descending from above on your hero Musharraf? The punishment for his multiple crimes that he escaped thanks to Zardari.

"What many found astounding was that Saima’s parents were not some illiterate people from a remote tribal area, but educated, influential, city dwellers. The father was a businessman who had headed the Peshawar Chamber of Commerce and Industry while the mother was a gynaecologist"..

All this goes to prove is that the so called educated city dwellers are in fact totally illiterate for all intents and purposes. From here a benchmark of the general standard of the Pakistani public can be drawn. Change cannot and will not come from the people as this American pro-democracy wet dream inflicted on us, would have us believe. Change in Pakistan, as in every other case in history can only come from above.

Male dominated cultures and religions can NOT perform any better, they can, however, get a lot worse.

It is frustrating how all the emphases is on the news that these helpless women were 'buried alive'. Those innocents were murdered. Period.

Re: # 4

"Special law is required to protect women..."

Well, in the BELOW cases that I just described, special laws may be required definitely for young SONS-IN-LAW for their safety from their fathers-in-law.

What makes YOU think that MALE lives alone are expendable? Dont they have fathers and mothers who care about them too?