There is no ‘honour’ in killing

What would make us a better, stronger nation: dealing with the issue, or burying it in the sand?

Definitely dealing with the issue.

"The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan recorded over 600 cases of ‘honour’ killings or ‘karo kari’ last year" -- wow.
In the nearest language, it always works.

As Rizwan's and Chiranjeevi's daughter's cases have showed, the Indian girl enjoys a very strange and perplexing relation with the father, who is just as willing to kill her, as he could be against any 'son-in-law' whom he does not like, as the recent Aarushis murder case has proven.

Here are a few links where the girls father has been involved against his son-in-law :


http://www.deccan.com/chennaichronicle/City/Citynews.asp#Man%20held%20for%20ki lling%20sister’s%20lover http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Actor_beau_kill_production_house_head/a rticleshow/3061001.cms http://telegraphindia.com/1080604/jsp/nation/story_9362690.jsp http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Man_beaten_to_death_by_lovers_dad/artic leshow/3139100.cms http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Dowry_demand_costs_man_dear/article show/3139492.cms

Only yesterday, a 30 year old coolie in a village, Bodi, Tamil Nadu, was lynched to DEATH by his father in law, who claimed to the police later, that the man came up to his house 'drunk' ( a huge crime! ), and 'beat' his daughter ( who knows! ). But male lives are expendable, especially for the cause of the huge female ego! The laws and judiciary are blatantly unfair!

There are too many scorned females out there today, who will support this father-in-law to get away with his crime. Too mesmerised by their personal vendetta, they carry it over to ALL males, who they oppose.

Re: # 3
Partha...
Partha-babu
Special law is required to protect women, when society is not treating them properly. You may not see attrocities against women in your place, but cow belt and Pakistan etc. are totaly different place. Sitting in Kolkata, it is better to stop commenting about something in Pakistan.

Partha-babu
Rizwan's case is different. Any father of stature Ashok Todi will not see his daughter at the hands of dirt poor, cheat. He had money and can not punish his daughter. So, the poor chap had to secrifice.

Re: # 4

"Special law is required to protect women..."

Well, in the BELOW cases that I just described, special laws may be required definitely for young SONS-IN-LAW for their safety from their fathers-in-law.

What makes YOU think that MALE lives alone are expendable? Dont they have fathers and mothers who care about them too?

Male dominated cultures and religions can NOT perform any better, they can, however, get a lot worse.

It is frustrating how all the emphases is on the news that these helpless women were 'buried alive'. Those innocents were murdered. Period.

"What many found astounding was that Saima’s parents were not some illiterate people from a remote tribal area, but educated, influential, city dwellers. The father was a businessman who had headed the Peshawar Chamber of Commerce and Industry while the mother was a gynaecologist"..

All this goes to prove is that the so called educated city dwellers are in fact totally illiterate for all intents and purposes. From here a benchmark of the general standard of the Pakistani public can be drawn. Change cannot and will not come from the people as this American pro-democracy wet dream inflicted on us, would have us believe. Change in Pakistan, as in every other case in history can only come from above.

"Change in Pakistan, as in every other case in history can only come from above. "

Change like punishing rogue generals for their crimes? And change coming from above like a hangman's noose descending from above on your hero Musharraf? The punishment for his multiple crimes that he escaped thanks to Zardari.

To whom it may concern,

We employed Mr. Haseeb-Ur-Rehman in the capacity of Temporary Legal Consultant upon recommendation by associates. He worked with us for the period of four weeks earlier this year. He proved to be diligent and hard working often putting in extra hours of his own accord and provided solid advice and guidance invaluable to our concerns. Haseeb also produced documents and drafted letters for our use. He is friendly, of good character and a pleasure to work with.

There'll be another martial law soon enough.. . The World's political climate is far to dangerous these days to let monkeys play parliamentary democracy for very long and its either that or the nation of Pakistan come November.

The only "crime" any General has committed is not letting the Pakistani civilian leadership and the "democratic community" (read prostitutes) steal money for a decade or so. Anything else which the public objects to.. they only do so in their illiteracy and fundamentalism.

Enjoy your democracy .. and Masadi :) .. you should steal as much as you can now.. you wont get a chance later.. maybe you can invite me to dinner.

In #10 Ignore Mr. Haseeb-Ur-Rehman's letter of reference. :)

Leadenwinter Amry apologist writes "The only "crime" any General has committed is not letting the Pakistani civilian leadership and the "democratic community" (read prostitutes) steal money for a decade or so. Anything else which the public objects to.. they only do so in their illiteracy and fundamentalism"

To Leadenwinter, the Generals of the Pakistan Army are like angels who descend from on top to guide the nation, being free of any corruption. The condition they have left the nation in after another bout of their direct rule reveals otherwise. It reveals nearly a decade of incompetence and lost development that has put us on the bottom of the world of nations in almost every social indicator of worth. The petty "corruption" of the civilians that he uses as smokescreen to hide the crimes of the generals reveals total incompetence in assessing a social structure. In a structure where the military is the dominant institution and its deliberate and oft interference in the state has turned it into a rudimentary predatory institution, you expect such corruption, but its blame lies directly with the generals of the Pakistan Army and their interference in state affairs, even then their own corruption where they have captured not only a few billion here or there but a substantial portion of the country's economy, wholesale, not to mention its land, and the fact that they have destroyed all institutions of civil society and show complete contempt for the people of this country (like leadenwinter) tells me that they should be de-wardified and hung, the whole lot of them for crimes against humanity....

Leadenwinter, your cheap-shot regarding me making money is a pathetic attempt at absolving the barbarians you worship. I have not made a red cent from any government source, other than being underpaid for teaching 4 classes at below market rate....

Leadenwinter writes "We employed Mr. Haseeb-Ur-Rehman in the capacity of Temporary Legal Consultant upon recommendation by associates..."

Arjun mian, why don't you employ your bot skills and find for us who this person is and where he is employed. This person who is a front for the Pakistan Army criminals must be exposed...

Thank you for your itme

As long as you don't drag religion into it, you ignorant socialite NGO type, I'm fine with what you say.

Oh, allow me, you ignorant religious nutcase (re #14) …

Such issues should be the focus of the ummah … which is too busy chasing Ahmadis out of mosques and looking for apostates to kill on a Friday afternoon. And you zee MiaN, are in bed with these nutcases.

There really was no need to bring up religion here, you know … but you just couldn't help taking a cheap shot ...

Re: # 5
Partha-babu
Rizwan's case is different. Any father of stature Ashok Todi will not see his daughter at the hands of dirt poor, cheat. He had money and can not punish his daughter. So, the poor chap had to secrifice."

So why should not Dirt Poor women /girl be deal the same way as Rizwan was dealt that is killed

Why should not powerfull rich let his son marry a gold digger 'neeche aurat'for 'phasaoing his blessed son .Why the standards are different for equally 'exploited' men as bleeding hard only for fairer sex .Men die silenly of stress high B.P. Heart not reporatable as death caused by demanding women

Only those familiar with the cae of Rizwan quoted by NKG need comment