Mutaal Mooquin September 13, 2008
#226 Posted by hamidm2 on September 18, 2008 2:08:09 pm
Re: # 215
GT,
.... i did not sell my morality on wall street this week but i did get buggered by some very immoral people - church and synagogue goers, every one of them! ..... now i have to work for another five years instead of devoting my energy to work for the betterment of mankind on chowk ..... i am afraid tahmed will have to bear that burden alone
GT,
.... i did not sell my morality on wall street this week but i did get buggered by some very immoral people - church and synagogue goers, every one of them! ..... now i have to work for another five years instead of devoting my energy to work for the betterment of mankind on chowk ..... i am afraid tahmed will have to bear that burden alone
#225 Posted by masadi on September 18, 2008 1:50:35 pm
In #224 read "is not reacting like a mad man" as
"is now reacting like a mad man"
"is now reacting like a mad man"
#224 Posted by masadi on September 18, 2008 1:35:10 pm
hamid writes "masadi,
.... i bet you the person who wrote that piece of nonsense is a tenured professor of some pseudo science, like sociology or anthropology, who should be collecting food stamps and government cheese ......"
Salam and greetings of peace Hamid sahib. How goes? baal bacha raazi baazi? It seems that I have totally pissed you off by linking to the Nacirema article (which was not written by me but by an anthropologist). In fact you are so pissed off that not only are you rubbishing that article (based on zero evidence, it is very true btw) but you are writing off the entire field as well as another field of sociology as "pseudo science". Such is the rambling of a mad man who having being caught with his pants down where they were supposed to be up is not reacting like a mad man, and how do you end your ramble, as the usual morally shallow capitalist peon who makes money the measure of all things...the Nacirema are real people, living a real life, and their rituals and rites are quite outlandish and exotic...sometimes even to themselves
Have a nice "ethnocentric" day,
TNI Masadi
.... i bet you the person who wrote that piece of nonsense is a tenured professor of some pseudo science, like sociology or anthropology, who should be collecting food stamps and government cheese ......"
Salam and greetings of peace Hamid sahib. How goes? baal bacha raazi baazi? It seems that I have totally pissed you off by linking to the Nacirema article (which was not written by me but by an anthropologist). In fact you are so pissed off that not only are you rubbishing that article (based on zero evidence, it is very true btw) but you are writing off the entire field as well as another field of sociology as "pseudo science". Such is the rambling of a mad man who having being caught with his pants down where they were supposed to be up is not reacting like a mad man, and how do you end your ramble, as the usual morally shallow capitalist peon who makes money the measure of all things...the Nacirema are real people, living a real life, and their rituals and rites are quite outlandish and exotic...sometimes even to themselves
Have a nice "ethnocentric" day,
TNI Masadi
#223 Posted by pinku on September 18, 2008 1:00:09 pm
bottom line is what remains at top of the agenda..
another joke:-)
Islam has hijacked muslims with two tings: strong identity/ego (arab identity) and an inferiority complex (that further requires more people to join that identity to be in a better position to defend it).. and so these two things support each other
From the days of Muhammad, muslims suspected and knew something is wrong with Islam (as shown by Kuran/Hadiths written by muslims themselves) but Muhammad blamed it on conspiracy against believers, the same idea Mullahas have used since then. The inferiority against reason is in Islam from day one, and because of such a long presence of this inferiority complex, the whole Islamic machinery has built elaborate lying/propaganda machinery against it. And that is why it is so easy to suppress reason in muslim societies, the society is used to that kind of suppression for long, nothing new...
#222 Posted by pinku on September 18, 2008 12:37:55 pm
#216 Posted by tahmed32
Ha Ha,:-)
"resonable" is for person only, ideas are rational or irrational... I can only make my posts or ideas rational, not reasonable...
See Islam needs confrontation through ideas not through bombs as US is doing it... Of course Islam will cry that it needs no confrontation at all, it just needs some occasional blood, some more nations and some conversion:-)
Ha Ha,:-)
"resonable" is for person only, ideas are rational or irrational... I can only make my posts or ideas rational, not reasonable...
See Islam needs confrontation through ideas not through bombs as US is doing it... Of course Islam will cry that it needs no confrontation at all, it just needs some occasional blood, some more nations and some conversion:-)
#221 Posted by pinku on September 18, 2008 12:31:26 pm
#210 Posted by masadi
You should add your eternal assurance to one of your scriptures, perhaps with my jokes in original, that will give lots of joy to believers.
You should add your eternal assurance to one of your scriptures, perhaps with my jokes in original, that will give lots of joy to believers.
#220 Posted by pinku on September 18, 2008 12:27:46 pm
[[Dilution is the solution to pollution.]]
:-), well said, including pollution through religions.
:-), well said, including pollution through religions.
#219 Posted by SR on September 18, 2008 11:34:59 am
Re: # 185 Hamid Murtad ["... and what about the silly ritual of starving yourself for a month which is going on as we speak ? ..."]
This can be fixed with modern ijtihaad. I propose that instead of having 30 compulsory and 10 optional fasting days in a year, there should be an ammendment.
The number of compulsory fasts should be raised to 32 and on top of that there should be an additional 20 optional ones.
Fasting should not be done every day and that too just in Ramadan. Instead, every Friday should be a fasing day, all around the year. 52 fasts in all. You are required to do at least 32. Do any 32 and you've met the requirement. Or do as many more as you desire upto a maximum of 52 for the year. It's like earning CECs... bits at a time. Much more consistent and meaningful.
This will be fair to all parties. And on top of that we won't get this madness of one whole month of frenzy and hysteria. Spread it out thinly.
Dilution is the solution to pollution.
...SR
This can be fixed with modern ijtihaad. I propose that instead of having 30 compulsory and 10 optional fasting days in a year, there should be an ammendment.
The number of compulsory fasts should be raised to 32 and on top of that there should be an additional 20 optional ones.
Fasting should not be done every day and that too just in Ramadan. Instead, every Friday should be a fasing day, all around the year. 52 fasts in all. You are required to do at least 32. Do any 32 and you've met the requirement. Or do as many more as you desire upto a maximum of 52 for the year. It's like earning CECs... bits at a time. Much more consistent and meaningful.
This will be fair to all parties. And on top of that we won't get this madness of one whole month of frenzy and hysteria. Spread it out thinly.
Dilution is the solution to pollution.
...SR
#218 Posted by quin on September 18, 2008 11:27:41 am
I don’t mean to interrupt the party going on here, but after the interacts I had, a few quotes came to my mind this morning, so I thought I would share it, though as if someone cares:
“Am I my brothers keeper?� - from Bible
“The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.� – Karl Marx
“hay paray sarhad-e-idraak se apna masjood
Qiblay ko ahl-e-nazar qibla nama kehtay heiN� - Ghalib (as quoted by Khurram)
"Fuzzy logic is a problem-solving control system methodology that can be implemented in hardware, software, or a combination of both. Fuzzy logic provides a simple way to arrive at a definite conclusion based upon vague, ambiguous, imprecise, noisy, or missing input information. It is an excellent choice for control system applications since it mimics human logic� – from a Manual of ISA (Instrumentation, Systems, and Automation Society)
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“Am I my brothers keeper?� - from Bible
“The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.� – Karl Marx
“hay paray sarhad-e-idraak se apna masjood
Qiblay ko ahl-e-nazar qibla nama kehtay heiN� - Ghalib (as quoted by Khurram)
"Fuzzy logic is a problem-solving control system methodology that can be implemented in hardware, software, or a combination of both. Fuzzy logic provides a simple way to arrive at a definite conclusion based upon vague, ambiguous, imprecise, noisy, or missing input information. It is an excellent choice for control system applications since it mimics human logic� – from a Manual of ISA (Instrumentation, Systems, and Automation Society)
You don't have to respond to this ...
#217 Posted by pinku on September 18, 2008 11:15:13 am
#214 Posted by hamidm2 on
hmmm hamid, sounds good but a bit confused..... I also have something to say on this, but nobody is ready to listen....
hmmm hamid, sounds good but a bit confused..... I also have something to say on this, but nobody is ready to listen....
#216 Posted by tahmed32 on September 18, 2008 11:05:15 am
Masadi #210 Very well put, sir. I somehow have the sense that Pinku is a more reasonable person than her posts make her appear...but then, I have the same feeling about myself and everyone else on chowk.. :-(
Could you tell me what is wrong with me?? (in 500 words of less)
Could you tell me what is wrong with me?? (in 500 words of less)
#215 Posted by GT on September 18, 2008 10:55:59 am
Hamid,
Are you all right? You do not happen to be one of those who sold their morality cheap in Wall Street this week?
Are you all right? You do not happen to be one of those who sold their morality cheap in Wall Street this week?
#214 Posted by hamidm2 on September 18, 2008 10:41:33 am
here is what my guru has to say about the pursuit of 'truth':
I think it’s very difficult to understand the question of truth without some form of narrative because even if you assume that truth is an innate quality of something, in the same spirit that Keats said ‘Truth is beauty, beauty truth’, then truth is still going to be a form of judgment, and judgment assumes some kind of temporality in which you balance various things, and you need language to communicate that.
... wow !!!!!
#213 Posted by GT on September 18, 2008 10:33:50 am
Hamid,
Not to worry ..... morality is nothing but bait for the gullible. Right now it is being bought at a very cheap price in Wall Street.
Not to worry ..... morality is nothing but bait for the gullible. Right now it is being bought at a very cheap price in Wall Street.
#212 Posted by hamidm2 on September 18, 2008 10:31:21 am
Re: # 208
masadi,
.... i bet you the person who wrote that piece of nonsense is a tenured professor of some pseudo science, like sociology or anthropology, who should be collecting food stamps and government cheese ...... there are a lot of self-hating americans out there - like ward churchill, cornel west and howard zinn ...... and i don't even know if they are self-hating .... it seems that they are hypocrites who are in this business to make money ... did you know that cornel west makes over 500,000 a year at princeton ? ...... imagine, you could have been part of his gang if only ......
masadi,
.... i bet you the person who wrote that piece of nonsense is a tenured professor of some pseudo science, like sociology or anthropology, who should be collecting food stamps and government cheese ...... there are a lot of self-hating americans out there - like ward churchill, cornel west and howard zinn ...... and i don't even know if they are self-hating .... it seems that they are hypocrites who are in this business to make money ... did you know that cornel west makes over 500,000 a year at princeton ? ...... imagine, you could have been part of his gang if only ......
#211 Posted by hamidm2 on September 18, 2008 10:20:14 am
Re: # 206
gt,
... that too, but morality hits me at a personal level since i consider myself to be a very moral person regardless of my penchant for prosciutto and merlot and an aversion to washing my rear end with my hand - left or right ....
gt,
... that too, but morality hits me at a personal level since i consider myself to be a very moral person regardless of my penchant for prosciutto and merlot and an aversion to washing my rear end with my hand - left or right ....
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