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Fathers and Daughters

Fatima Mirza September 28, 2008

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#61 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 6, 2008 11:52:03 am
#60, I don't know anything about him, T.S, new and improved, or old and worn-out. Really, I have no clue.

I never make temperamental comments, everything I say has a very decisive structure, and I can defend my positions -- I believe in what I fight for. This is not 'temperament' this is 'determination.'

Everything I have ever said here, was never made of blind anger, I'm actually quite poised, and try my hand at acting the energy that is required, to carry forth my work: bring Art to the People.

Art, as not confined by institutionalization of it, Art, as not destroyed by Psychiatrists, Art, that cannot be ridiculed by Mullahs.

If Masadi has a point, he has to be clear about it. If he doesn't, I suggest he doesn't speak up in the first place.
Its a waste of my time.



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#60 Posted by thinkingstorm on October 6, 2008 11:34:29 am
MeiraJ08,

if I may interject on the behalf of Masadi.

Just as you bring interesting dialog and inventiveness to the poetic field; Masadi brings an eloquent rejection of the suger coated imperialistic politics of subjugation.

Like you, Masadi is very temperamental and not given to politically correct statements. Like you, he speaks his mind, even if it brings him scorn or ridicule.

The TNI (The new and improved)Masadi is trying a hand at humor as well, and is taking baby steps in this direction... and not yet full fluent :)

with much respect,
thinking storm
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#59 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 6, 2008 8:17:19 am
#55, what happened Mr. (noble) Masadi? Cat got your tongue?
No fatwa? nothing? Wow. I must be an excellent writer.

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#58 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 6, 2008 7:30:12 am
Yes he is, rf.

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#57 Posted by rf786 on October 6, 2008 5:42:35 am
Fatima Mirza

May God give you and your dear father a long and happy life, many many thanks for this beautiful masterpiece.

By the way, is your father a FX person, reason I ask is beause I too was once in the same line of business and coincidentally have a daughter who happens to be studying abroad.
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#56 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 5, 2008 6:35:43 pm
Mr. Masadi, I do not trust your words and humor much, with the comments I have seen you making. I do not expect anything 'real' from you for an article that I wrote.
Again, if you want to talk Freud, lets begin, it will be a long discussion, and we we can exchange notes with the psychiatrist on the unit, [Dr. Sohail, I believe.]

So lets hear it, why mention "Freud" -- can you explain this humor, since judging your previous comments at various places I often sense only blind anger from you. [respectedly]
Unless, the mention was a faus pas, in that case, lets let the issue rest. As its already quite real.

You have a Nice Day as well,


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#55 Posted by masadi on October 5, 2008 6:25:40 pm
#54, you apparently didn't get my "humor". I am still working on it, someday I will perfect the art.

Have a nice day and keep it real,
TNI Masadi
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#54 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 5, 2008 6:22:37 pm
Mr. Masadi, I appreciate your knowledge of what occurs in an area that must be quite near to you as well, in one way or another.

I specifically used the word "Pakistan" to denote, our cultural values, our language and our tradition.

Between Freud, [whose work I am very familiar with] and Joyce, [whose daughter was treated by Jung, Freud's disciple] I prefer Joyce.

I can refer you to a great and real work if you want to know about Father-daughter relations since always:
"Finegan's Wake" -- By Joyce.

My question was rhetorical, and as I specifically wrote this piece thinking of the Chowk site, I wanted to pose that as a question to all of you and make you wonder about the possibilities of this relation -- which believe me, are more than Freud could ever imagine. His work is too elementary in this area, and only as a reflective of "Father-Son" relations, if you are referring to the "Electra-Complex"

Freud is better known for his "Oedipal-Complex" theory. Have you read it? Could you tell us what it means? (by the way do you have any sons.)

Thanks.

----------
Naqshbandi

I appreciate the comment, but Masadi has a point. :-)

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#53 Posted by masadi on October 5, 2008 6:16:42 pm
The author wrote "I sometimes wonder at what happens to father-daughter relations in Pakistan these days, or from always, I don’t know...."

I bet Freud knows, google him!

have a nice day,
TNI Masadi
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#52 Posted by masadi on October 5, 2008 6:15:40 pm
naqsh get over yourself. Chowk is not a matchmaking site. Those kinds of activities require a higher office and a higher calling, the kind reflected by the Zardari/Palin meeting.

Have a nice day and I hope the spammers write you at your gmail address....

TNI Masadi
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#51 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 5, 2008 5:43:05 pm
some beautiful passages fatima. welcome to chowk and thank you for a poignant, well-written article.

good to see a prose stylist on here.
email me at asifjuk@gmail.com

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#50 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 5, 2008 5:41:07 pm
Lol!!!

Thanks Neembu

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#49 Posted by shobig_sifar on October 5, 2008 5:01:27 pm
It's undoubtedly one of the best pieces that ever adorned chowk FP. Good to see it here. For more comments please refer to your ilogs page. :)
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#48 Posted by neembu on October 5, 2008 3:45:33 pm
Fatima,

This piece was startling and like nothing I've read. Kudos- hope to read more!
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#47 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 5, 2008 12:07:34 pm
Thanks, Ras. : )

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#46 Posted by Ras on October 5, 2008 11:10:15 am

Fatima Mirza,

This writing is just beautiful.

Very well done!

Ras
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