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Fathers and Daughters

Fatima Mirza September 28, 2008

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#97 Posted by BJ2 on October 6, 2008 8:11:48 pm
[I'm a nice person.]

I am absolutely sure that you do not bite! :)

Then again, perhaps you did.
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#98 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 6, 2008 8:13:00 pm
too bad you're giving up on yourself bajra. remember, quitters are losers.

Not that we all didn't already know that. But as I said, as a psychologist, I am very interested in new creatures. albeit, they are half-creatures.

bye bye baby bajra. better luck next time. : - )

I appreciate you taking the toll of my article to 96 comments, I've beat MQM, never thought I'd actually get a chance to do that. Thanks so much BJ, for making this the biggest hit for me, yet.

Khuda-hafiz.
Humarai haan aisai kaha jata hai.

معرآج

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#99 Posted by BJ2 on October 7, 2008 3:07:58 am
Re: # 98

Meira, you are welcome!

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#100 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 7, 2008 4:07:23 am
MeiraJ,

Yes I would love to read your stuff. Books are my life if truth be told. I'm rarely without one. Have you read Nabokov's Ada? It too transports you to a place few writers can go. Magnificent. See, I don't meet many fellow desis who are so into books and reading and language as I am (at the risk of sounding arrogant) and THAT is why I gave you my email and said lets talk about books, baby...!!!
Ada Online:
http://www.ada.auckland.ac.nz/

:-)

thinkingstorm you're v funny.
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#101 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 7, 2008 4:23:06 am
http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/03/02/lifetimes/nab-r-ada-appel.html
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#102 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 7, 2008 5:43:56 am
#99, ofcourse I am BJ, I am welcome because I bring so much to this community.
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BJ's very peculiar kind of insect violence, is really an interesting phenomena to me. I might not be a trained but only an academic psychologist, however I do hold, in simple exchanges of people, we get glimpses of the psyche, of what their motivations are, of what they seek to destroy.

You can tell everything about a man, once you know what his enemy is.

All of these instances of life, are just what they are -- minor episodes, which won't hold out. Only one thing will -- your will to live & to survive.

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So here's my synopsis:

BJ's responses: "you think you are God's chosen people!!"

will continue to be a question to my mind, as I do not understand, what is the nature of this rivalry -- and why on earth does he have a diagram on his site, "India/Pakistani" where he has put the circle on the heart in a way that it could cripple, of what I can understand.

I still insist, this is some psychological disorder, and it seems that the fanatics can appear in any shape. Not just good ol' taliban brothers. That one line, stays, why did he say it?

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End of Case File Study - till further discussion.

معرآج

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#103 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 7, 2008 5:48:45 am
#100, yes Nb, I realize that. It does get claustrophobic when each time we talk about books, are willingness to discuss literary concepts, is considered either "too intellectual" or "irrelevant."

How kind of you to want to take a look at my work...I'm going to look for an extract and post it on my page, I'll email you the link when its up.

I will just see this Ada link. There was a short novel of his I read, I just can't remember its name.

I love to meet anyone who is a reader, glad to make your acquaintance. : ) Ah, now we can talk BOOKS!!

معرآج

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#104 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 7, 2008 6:45:36 am
#100, Nb, I have posted the 6th Mirage....here is the link:

http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/edit/69273

معرآج

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#105 Posted by masadi on October 7, 2008 9:37:14 am
Because of violating the Hindu sensibilities of Chowk staff I had been banned for a day, now I am back. MeiraJ08, if you want to know about Freud why don't you google him. This forum is not for testing my knowledge about a shrink. I don't partake in shrinkery.

Have a nice day and don't give yourself too much importance, that is a prime tendency in the inherently unimportant....


TNI Masadi
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#106 Posted by CheGuevara on October 7, 2008 9:46:01 am
I didn't read the article because sappy stuff kind of makes me cringe little (sorry no offense I like your other stuff very avant garde) but I just had to drop by and say wow as "are you taking the piss mate?" at this:


"don't give yourself too much importance, that is a prime tendency in the inherently unimportant...."

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#107 Posted by thinkingstorm on October 7, 2008 10:40:37 am
Now now Masadi,

even after I gave such a wonderful intro to you, you put the TNI Masadi in the house, and came out with the old Masadi :)
with much respect,
thinking storm
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#108 Posted by masadi on October 7, 2008 12:35:46 pm
Thinking sahib,

Please pardon the transgression, it is periodically necessary to show man(woman) their "limitations". They are often lost on the Anil types....

Have a nice day,

TNI Masadi
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#109 Posted by MeiraJ08 on October 7, 2008 3:04:05 pm
Cheguevara, I didn't get the rest of your comment, because I prefer people who make some commitment to life.

As far as the writing is concerned,

I realize I challenge. Its what I'm here to do. It's not anything particular to you, you're just part of the regular system, we hate talking about many things these days, at one time the Romantics have thrived. Those times are gone now.

Modernity is all right, you can tame it, I wrote it. But I prefer writing that is naked. You're too pre-programmed to read my work -- which is way original for its time.

Now before you all start thinking, "oh she's a snob, so intellectual" yada yada, please also understand that I fight for WRITING, because I live for Writing.

And thank God the modern yuppy dogs aren't the only ones that come wagging their tales for avant garde stuff, of which they grasp nothing of the concept.

Get back to those movements, and try to 'understand' what they were doing. Creating a new world is not easy, Mr. --
And that's what I am doing -- I will win & I will experiment.

If you have a problem with Chowk staff, for choosing this, [which I was impressed by] then you can contact them.

Btw, this article won 250 hits in a single, half a night over at the ilogs, where as my Avant Garde work won 50/60/or 70 in 2 days consistently.
Of my three writings here, this won 3000 views in over a day, do you know why CheGuevara?

because Fathers and Daughters, for whom it was written, need to hear it. We are tried of wanna be Avant Garde work, where everything n everything goes in the name of a movement, that's not even your own.

Reason why I talk to each person that talks to me? Because I consider human life to be a sane and real concept. And my language wasn't borrowed from the twisted sinews of dog's filth.

-----This piece, for others to read:

Is part of "MeiraJeS" -- and it has atleast 3 episodes, equally long in which this relationship isn't all that stable. [Its part of my Novel.]

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Masadi,

Why mention something that you can't defend or care for? I still find your attempts at writing comments, comical.


معرآج

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#110 Posted by CheGuevara on October 7, 2008 4:37:43 pm
Meira sweetheart you are clearly fucking insane and paranoid but I still have a soft spot for you, which, is why I will take the unusual step of explaining one of my posts so feel special.

"I didn't read the article because sappy stuff kind of makes me cringe a little "

Yes its true it really does. I'm sure many people cried, found hope in life and decided not to put a gun to the roof of their mouth because of it but I didn't read because its not my kind of thing. The purpose of this line was basically to outline that I would not be contributing to this discussion and would instead comment on something totally irrelevant.

"(sorry no offense I like your other stuff very avant garde)"

Ok I confess I have no idea wtf avant garde means but its gotten you into a right fit and has caused you to interpret a compliment as being an insult. Either that or you have a great deal of pent up anger against me for some reason (in which case I really don't give a shit).

"but I just had to drop by and say wow as "are you taking the piss mate?" at this:"

While this part of the post may have caused some confusion due to a terrible keyboard but it would not be difficult to understand that it was referring to the post made by a relapsed Mr. M. Asadi.

"Have a nice day and don't give yourself too much importance, that is a prime tendency in the inherently unimportant"

When Mr. Asadi says this he is essentially PWN3ing himself. As quite a few of us long time chowkies know he has more than a slight tendency towards self-aggrandizement and megalomania. The words "taking the piss" can be translated to mean "are you joking" or
"masadi, are you seriously accusing someone else o that? Nigga please."

I really cannot make myself any clearer. I wish you the best of luck in fighting the conformist yuppie pricks and will be with you in spirit and promise to appreciate your brilliance (3,000 views fukkin hell!!! Salman Rushdie watch out) while I smoke my last spliff of the night.
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#111 Posted by thinkingstorm on October 7, 2008 5:01:38 pm
Che yaar,

It is truly unorthodox of you to leave a clarifying reply. Good on you mate... :)

I must also admonish you for smoking low grade stuff...had I seen your response as more affirmative and less acidic, I would have assumed you had some quality stuff to smoke.

As it stands, I wish you better grass, for the grass is indeed greener on the other side ;)
with much respect,
thinking storm
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#112 Posted by thinkingstorm on October 7, 2008 5:11:13 pm
Che

"but I still have a soft spot for you"

why, cause she's a karachi-ite?

such bias. tsk tsk tsk
with much respect,
thinking storm
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