Reforming Religious Fundamentalists

Re: # 56; hamidm

"hukm-e-haakim marg-e mufajaat" sir!

Re: # 55

dr cheema sahib,

..... please stay tuned ......... we might need your help if dr sohail sahib recommends a full frontal lobotomy ..... i assume you are qualified to perform this procedure

Re: # 53; hamidm sahib

I am only a humble surgeon and I tend to agree with your analysis ... we'll await Dr Sohail's specialist opinion on the matter for sure

Re: # 44
dear ijaz gul..i have been thinking about your question without coming up with a satisfactory answer. i think we are dealing with many groups
...those who are idealists and romantic with big dreams and high ideals
...those who are ideologues and are blindly committed to an ideology of the right or the left
....those who are willing to give their lives for their ideology
...those who are willing to take other people's lives to implement their ideology....whether communism or islam...all over the world
it is the last group that becomes threat to local, national and international peace
In my book
Prophets of Violence, Prophets of Peace
I have analyzed these groups from a psychological perspective.
I think reading biographies of revolutionaries give us great insights in their personality, philosophy and politics.
sincerely
sohail

dr sohail sahib,

.... forget about reforming taliban an other bearded whackos for a minute and let us focus on masadi's sad condition ....... in your professional opinion does he suffer from paranoia, schizophrenia, low self esteem, male impotence or just plian old stupidity ?....... as a lay person, i would say 'all of the above' but then, what do you know .........

..... he is a tortured soul who thinks that the us elite aided and abetted by the chowk staff and tahmed are out to get him .... now, we all know that tahmed is a scoundrel but i doubt he is out to ruin mad masadi .... the chowk staff can be accused of incompetence, but i don't think they would bother with a pisoo (flea, or is it gnat?) like masadi ............ that leaves the 'us elite', which has bigger things like the wall street crisis and the sarah palin to worry about ......... please help masadi

thank you

Re: # 46
dear friends..in spite of my philosophical differences with masadi sahib i never flaged his comments and never asked editors not to publish his articles. it is between him and chowk staff. i believe in a mutually respectful dialogue on chowk. i just ignore those comments that are disrespectful....sincerely sohail

Arjun198,

Sometimes the picture on the wall is for show not the reality.

After all from what you tell me India is doing well despite having the casteist fascist on its walls and currency.

#48 Posted by MantoLives on October 4, 2008 4:03:53 am

so what you're saying is that if pakis stop revering gandhi and stop calling him the father of their nation, pakiland will no longer be seen as ground zero for islamic terrorism?

sounds like a plan to me...go ahead and start....burn all copies of gandhi's' book...remove his photos from the walls of your government offices..

that'll fix the whole islamic terrorism problem..

Re: # 47

Cheema ji,

Hamidm was a murtid but now appears to be subdued by the terror of the Jehadis......

I think he is a munafique because though he would not like to miss the 72 big eyed ones promised by the formless Allha but he does not want to keep all the rozas and hates bending 5 times a day ( once a week suits him).

But , if all the momeens turn into munafiques like him then sanity would prevail.......

In order to reform religious fundamentalists, South Asia must atone for Gandhi, the subcontinent's first real terrorist and a fascist to the core, who was the worst thing to be unleashed on this subcontinent.

Half naked fakir hindu fascist bigot Gandhi is the subcontinent's original sin. The subcontinent's greatest misfortune was that Gandhi walked on it in all his ugliness on public view and it might just be our greatest fortune if none like him was to walk on this dharti again.

Re: # 45; Laddu

why do you call him "munafiqoon"? that means a hypocrite (actually it is the plural of 'munafiq') ... is that what YOU mean by it?

This is to bring to your notice that Masadi sahib has again been banned by chowk for what he considers unjustifed reason, he wishes to express his protest here.

Dr sohail has got me banned for making a quite benign post on there. He is also responsible for censoring my articles. My comments to HP were much harsher but they were not cut or censored but as soon as I say something to Dr.sohail the (deleted) shrink, i get banned! Please let friends know on that thread

Masadi

Regards

Re: # 34

hamidm,

there are perhaps more yoga-studios than mosques in US - you under estimate the counter movements towards sanity......

remember, the more muslims become "munafiqoons" the more we have achieved our goals towards sanity.....

Sohail,
You have not answered my question at #36

Re: # 42
dear akcheema...this article is about those religious fundamentalits who said goodbye to violence and ambraced peace. the question is how are they different than those who continue their violent religious fundamentalist acts all their lives. from a psychological point of view i am curious about different factors that contribute to this transformation. for me it is similar to studying those 10% of alcoholics who join AA, receive therapy and remain sober for the rest of their lives. people with personality problems who indulge in violence may not suffer from schizophrenia but still have serious emotional problems and we need to study them seriously.
to understand religious fundamentalists social, economic, cultural, religious and political factors are as important as psychological factors.
thanks for the reference. i printed it out and i will read it on the weekend
sincetrely sohail

DrSohail sahib,

exactly what are you planning to 'reform' here .... we are NOT dealing with people with any known psychiatric illnesses ... their actions are based on culturally/religiously held 'beliefs' and well within the definition of sanity no matter which angle you look it from.

fyi:

http://www.bintjbeil.com/articles/en/011119_hassan.html