Shantanu Dutta October 13, 2008
#6 Posted by nkg on October 20, 2008 10:23:50 pm
dada,
regarding ravana, his deed was considered to be bad, not ravana himself. He was very affectionate towards her sister, he was ideal king and lanka was most prosperous of the kingdoms. his force had quality heroes like meghnad and his wife (mandodari) was potrayed as noble lady. so, is his brother was potrayed that way. no where in ramayana, ravana was potrayed as bad person. it was his pride, which caused destriction.ravana have not take sita to enjoy her. it was to take revenge of what ram and lakshman did to his sister supranakha if perriyer preaches it, let it be....
anyhow, ramayana was an excellent work of fiction...
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/1315.html
regarding ravana, his deed was considered to be bad, not ravana himself. He was very affectionate towards her sister, he was ideal king and lanka was most prosperous of the kingdoms. his force had quality heroes like meghnad and his wife (mandodari) was potrayed as noble lady. so, is his brother was potrayed that way. no where in ramayana, ravana was potrayed as bad person. it was his pride, which caused destriction.ravana have not take sita to enjoy her. it was to take revenge of what ram and lakshman did to his sister supranakha if perriyer preaches it, let it be....
anyhow, ramayana was an excellent work of fiction...
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/1315.html
#5 Posted by nkg on October 20, 2008 10:10:49 pm
Dada (Santanu Dutta),
have you ever thought that tribals are the victim of tussle between BD and missionaries?
some people are changing sidhu munda to arjun munda and you people are busy making them stephen munda...have you ever thought about the sensibilities of the tribals?
At least BD people are illiterate or semi literate, fed with cow belt ideology. You fellows are treated as most decent people, and you guys are behaving in such a fashion?
why don't you preach message of love (christianity) to the calcutta people ( embroiled in political turmoil- between mamata and buddha), who need it more than anybody else?
have you ever thought that tribals are the victim of tussle between BD and missionaries?
some people are changing sidhu munda to arjun munda and you people are busy making them stephen munda...have you ever thought about the sensibilities of the tribals?
At least BD people are illiterate or semi literate, fed with cow belt ideology. You fellows are treated as most decent people, and you guys are behaving in such a fashion?
why don't you preach message of love (christianity) to the calcutta people ( embroiled in political turmoil- between mamata and buddha), who need it more than anybody else?
#4 Posted by jang on October 20, 2008 9:22:37 pm
shantanu, its time to celebrate...the era of PC shyte is gone. gone is the time when only by Periyar Ramasway of the Dravida Kazakham in anti brahminical protest couold trash one of the most holy figures without any hoopla..now its more rough and tumble of blaspheming and media hoopla. its all good and we should all welcome this kinda iconoclasm..all ideas are subject to scrutiny and everyone, including the sikh manch are allowed to air their opinions in full honesty ..its great new free era.
offcourse we all bear responsibility for consequences of our speech and actions..its karma.
offcourse we all bear responsibility for consequences of our speech and actions..its karma.
#3 Posted by nkg on October 20, 2008 8:46:53 pm
Santanu-dada, Namaskar.....
well written...couple of points....
Indians have no problem accepting Christ as son of God ( Krishna). In fact, that was the tradition. In the lineage Krishna comes first, Buddha little modern and then Christ, who is mixed personality of Krishna and Buddha....Have you ever seen any Indian maligning Christ? Nope, never....
Have you seen Indians dislike Chriatians? No...
When the tribals, leaving their own culture, try to malign the father of the Prophet of their adopted religion, will Christ save them? No....
So is their misery.....
Milhe Sur Mera Tumhara was to integrate various cultural identities of India (West- Marathi, Gujrati, Rajput, East- Bengali, Oriya, Assemese, South- Tamil, Kannada, Malayalam, Telegu)....It has nothing to do with mediaval arab beduinism(Islam) or ....
Hari...
Well said...
Santanu is Bong ( not christian)....
well written...couple of points....
Indians have no problem accepting Christ as son of God ( Krishna). In fact, that was the tradition. In the lineage Krishna comes first, Buddha little modern and then Christ, who is mixed personality of Krishna and Buddha....Have you ever seen any Indian maligning Christ? Nope, never....
Have you seen Indians dislike Chriatians? No...
When the tribals, leaving their own culture, try to malign the father of the Prophet of their adopted religion, will Christ save them? No....
So is their misery.....
Milhe Sur Mera Tumhara was to integrate various cultural identities of India (West- Marathi, Gujrati, Rajput, East- Bengali, Oriya, Assemese, South- Tamil, Kannada, Malayalam, Telegu)....It has nothing to do with mediaval arab beduinism(Islam) or ....
Hari...
Well said...
Santanu is Bong ( not christian)....
#2 Posted by KaalChakra on October 20, 2008 5:30:44 pm
Shantanu bhai, this was a good article. Not much to disagree with here (even though eulogizing ravana was not the issue for anyone, showing sita and ravana cavorting together was some).
Hope people can still live peacefully, by offering other communities the basic respect they deserve. That is the essence of sur mein sur milana, which Hindus and Christians had been able to achieve until quite recently.
Hope people can still live peacefully, by offering other communities the basic respect they deserve. That is the essence of sur mein sur milana, which Hindus and Christians had been able to achieve until quite recently.
#1 Posted by harimau on October 20, 2008 4:42:43 pm
In the Trichy edition of "The Anri-Hindu", on Tuesday there was a letter from a Juliet Mary.
Juliet Mary lamented the fact that a nun was raped in Kandhmal in Orissa and asked why there were no Hindus who, like Krishna who came to the rescue of Draupadi when she was being disrobed by Dusshasana in Duryodana's court after the Pandavas lost the game and bet, came to the rescue of the nun.
Juliet Mary conveniently forgets that it is those Christian missionaries who went around preaching that Krishna is a false god.
Maybe those who were alleged to have raped the nun accepted the priests' preachings and decided not to act like Krishna the false god. In that sense, they had decided to accept Christ's message and were not truly Hindu.
One wonders about Juliet Mary's (or for that matter, Shantanu Dutta's) commitment to Christianity. After all, didn't Christ teach them to turn the other cheek when struck? One would have thought Juliet Mary would have counseled the nun to have sex with a few more people, if she truly followed Christ's teachings.
Yo, Shantanu Dutta: so long as you Christians went about your daily lives without interfering in other people's lives, you had no problems. The day you started telling them what kind of non-Hindus they ought to become, the Hindus have decided what kind of Hindus they will accept.... and even what kinds of non-Hindus they will accept. Activist Christians and bomb-throwing Mozzies are just plain not acceptable.
Have you got that lesson down pat?
Juliet Mary lamented the fact that a nun was raped in Kandhmal in Orissa and asked why there were no Hindus who, like Krishna who came to the rescue of Draupadi when she was being disrobed by Dusshasana in Duryodana's court after the Pandavas lost the game and bet, came to the rescue of the nun.
Juliet Mary conveniently forgets that it is those Christian missionaries who went around preaching that Krishna is a false god.
Maybe those who were alleged to have raped the nun accepted the priests' preachings and decided not to act like Krishna the false god. In that sense, they had decided to accept Christ's message and were not truly Hindu.
One wonders about Juliet Mary's (or for that matter, Shantanu Dutta's) commitment to Christianity. After all, didn't Christ teach them to turn the other cheek when struck? One would have thought Juliet Mary would have counseled the nun to have sex with a few more people, if she truly followed Christ's teachings.
Yo, Shantanu Dutta: so long as you Christians went about your daily lives without interfering in other people's lives, you had no problems. The day you started telling them what kind of non-Hindus they ought to become, the Hindus have decided what kind of Hindus they will accept.... and even what kinds of non-Hindus they will accept. Activist Christians and bomb-throwing Mozzies are just plain not acceptable.
Have you got that lesson down pat?
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