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Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India

Veeresh Malik November 5, 2008

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#33 Posted by pakiturk on November 10, 2008 8:51:45 am
#22 ahmedmadani {"If Parthaab does not want Tata why not ask him to come to Karachi and take over Pakistan Steel mill for start followed by Nano Plant in Hub Industrial estate"}

Madani Sahib,
While you have a great idea for producing the Nano in Karachi, I must disagree with the actual implementation details. You see, the Nano is a miniature vehicle - you can consider it a lawn mower with small seats to envelope the scrawny posteriors of swarthy aborigines. Most of the skilled workers in Karachi are gigantic Pathans with big clumsy hands that cannot possibly squeeze into the small, narrow, and congested areas to tighten the little screws. That is the main reason why Tata considered producing this toy in Calcutta. Sorry!

Sincerely,
Salim Ahmed Chauhan
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#34 Posted by Regards on November 10, 2008 12:20:52 pm
Ratan Tata has rendered a great service to the nation, and I think like all Tatas, acted for public good though he lost considerable time and money in the process. He could have compromised as politicians, right and left, were expecting him to do. Loss of Mamata Banerjis vote market will serve her and other of her ilk a lesson.

I hope that some other politicians who pander to vote banks and not to public welfare like Mayawati, Thakres etc will also take a lesson. It was already visible when Mayawati backtracked on railways coach factory land in Rai-Bareily when famers's land etc.. etc.. backfired on her.

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#35 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 10, 2008 6:41:28 pm
What is asic ? Shortform for
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#36 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 10, 2008 7:08:15 pm
Just curiosity about Bengal custom and ethos so some body can answer without btwists.

What is equivalent to Babu for females.
Is babu attached to name is complimentary or derogatory.
Great indian patriot Mr. Bose is refered many times "Desh Gaurav SubhasBabu", defenitely not derogetory. While mr. Basu or Buddhadev etc are never referred with tail of Babu.

Are brother or relatives any time refered with Babu.

If correct in maharata state when man reaches and show qualities he becomes Rao. IS Babu used only when you have done something out standing ? It is absolutely not clear. Or first indian president as refered as RajPrasad Babu , sure was honarory attached kitab.

Language is strange only some times person in depth understands.
Here Babu is equivalent to lazy Kachheri going person and who never answers except I do not know and is always busy in something except office work.

Babu= NaukarShah is literal meaning here

Good day.
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#37 Posted by majumdar on November 10, 2008 7:17:15 pm
Ahmedmadani sahib,

What is equivalent to Babu for females.

Very often, "di" is attached - like Mamata di.

While mr. Basu or Buddhadev etc are never referred with tail of Babu.

They are. Mr Jyoti Basu is called Jyoti babu, Mr. BB is referred to as Buddha Babu

Regards
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#38 Posted by nb on November 10, 2008 10:02:15 pm
Didi is the equivalent of dada, not babu.
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#39 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 11, 2008 4:45:11 pm
#37,38.
Now I feel there may not be female babu term. This term may have (?) have started with british East India establishment in Culcutta. At that time british would not employ females. The babu term appaers to be related to office job for british officers adding prestige. Or Babu term derived from "Bhadralok".
Di may be more related to"JI" or Haji haji of central proviences. Even today like peole will refer to mrs Madam Soniyaji Gandhiji as " Madam Soniyaji".
Other than Bengal Babu and Babugiri are derogatory term it appaers.
Good day
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#40 Posted by veeresh on November 11, 2008 5:37:30 pm
In years gone past, if you went to any middle class restaurant in the South and said "Babu Rao", then if not the manager then at least the senior waiter would respond to the call.

Somehow "Babu" became "baboo" and that became a nickname.

"Doctor babu" is a term used for all doctors, regardless of gender.

"Babushka" is used in Russia also, as a term of endearment?

One school of thought has it that the term "London Bobby" was also derived from the Indian "babu".

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#41 Posted by parthaab on November 12, 2008 1:58:06 am
Deal is out: Win-win for Tata, Gujarat

TIMES NEWS NETWORK November11, 2008

Gandhinagar/ Ahmedabad: If this is the deal, it is a win-win situation for both Tatas and Gujarat. A loan of Rs 9,570 crore and that too at an amazingly soft 0.1% simple rate of interest. That’s the big sweetener along with other carrots that the Gujarat government is understood to have doled out to draw Tata’s Nano project to Gujarat.

This, as per a document circulating in Sachivalay on Monday which the Modi administration refused to either confirm or deny was authentic. The government has denied the information sought under the Right to Information Act to the media.

If the document is official, it is a deviation from Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s hard stance on sops. But then look at it another way. Tatas need only Rs 2,900 crore for setting up the Nano plant, including the relocation cost of Rs 700 crores. The remaining Rs 6,670 crore will be spent on infrastructure development, including roads and rail, gas pipelines, effluent treatment plant, electricity, water and all that goes in the name of providing infrastructure to the Nano plant.

This infrastructure will be of use not only to Nano but to fuel the CM’s vision of turning Gujarat into a global auto hub, as more players follow the Nano trail from Singur to Sanand. It is just that Modi is picking up the bill first and Ratan Tata is paying back in easy instalments spread over 20 years. The document is believed to have been put before the Cabinet for approval. Just to give an idea about the size of the loan, it would be a quarter of Gujarat government’s annual budget of Rs 40,000 crore. Tatas have got their share too. They get a 100% exemption on electricity duty in addition to a concessional power tariff. The 1,100 acre land comes highly subsidised without any stamp duty, registration and transfer charges. The payment for land would be made in eight equal annual instalments at a compound interest of 8% per annum.

THE DEAL

Tata wants only Rs 2,900 cr for Nano plant
Infrastructure cost of Rs 6,670 cr also billed to Tatas
Repayment of Rs 9,570 cr loan @ 0.1% over 20 years

THE SWEETNERS

100% exemption on electricity duty
Concessional power tariff
1,100 acre land comes cheap
No stamp duty, registration and transfer charges
Payment for land in 8 equal annual instalments

How the Nano deal is structured

Gandhinagar/ Ahmedabad:

The soft loan of Rs 9,570 crore that the Gujarat government has offered to Tatas will have to be repaid by them in 20 years but the repayment schedule will be linked to the VAT outgo on production capacity of 2.5 lakh cars in first phase.
For first four years, Tatas will have to repay the state government at 200% of the gross VAT payments per month. Estimates are that Tatas will have to pay an annual VAT of Rs 375 crore to the government based on its declared phase one annual capacity of 2.5 lakh cars. This means, the company will have to pay three times this amount or Rs 1,125 crore to the government as its loan repayment for the first four years.

Thereafter, repayments will reduce to 150% of its VAT payment till the state government recovers 150% of the proposed Rs 2,900-crore investment that Tatas will put up in phase one. This repayment will further come down to 100% of the VAT payment over the following years.

Various infrastructure facilities to be provided by the state government to Tatas include construction of a two or four-lane road connecting the project site, construction of a natural gas pipeline to the site, a 200-kva power supply, a 14,000-cubic metre per day water at the project site as well as facilities for waste disposal.

The state government has also promised to provide facilities for development of a ‘Tansportnagar’ on a publicprivate partnership for loading/unloading, lodging and boarding and other facilities in addition to providing 100 acres of land near Ahmedabad for a township at a later stage.

The leak of details of the sops being offered to Tatas, which has been a closely guarded secret, is understood to have set off a scramble within the CMO to find out how the document got leaked. The note was prepared by state industries department on the basis of the MoU with Tatas to get it approved by the Cabinet.

Info on Nano project denied under RTI


Note that the land is fertile land, belonging to the Anand Agricultural UNIVERSITY, is TOTALLY FREE OF COST.
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#42 Posted by nkg on November 13, 2008 10:14:57 pm
NB, Majumder...
It is Devi for ladies (Ashapurna Devi, Mahasweta Devi), like Babu for Gentleman....(Postfix)...

Paki...
"Most of the skilled workers in Karachi are gigantic Pathans with big clumsy hands that cannot possibly squeeze into the small, narrow, and congested areas to tighten the little screws...."

Pakiland is great!!! But don't you guys pack your family ( 2-3 wives, 5/6 children) on 70 CC, two stroke motor cycles or Suzuki Alto?


They can do that on smaller vehicle like Suzuki Alto....

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