Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India

{"When I got disgusted and finally told them that if they persisted in trying to finger me, then we would re-locate out of Maharashtra, I realised that I had hit the button when I saw their faces."}

Veeresh,
Welcome back and once again you did not totally waste your time on yet another train journey. Thanks for a good article and an inspiration for people who threaten to leave and take their marbles with them. Where were you when the boycott of Chowk was being disorganized?

nkg #2 {"I wished, we got rid of Nehru and Indira Gandhi much earlier, may be in early 70s. That would have made India much better place now. "}

nkg,
Would that have been before or after she meddled in a neighbor's internal affairs and caused the catastrophic breakup of the country - resulting in the rise of terrorism against India today?

#11 ahmedmadani {"As indian way is different way of planning is reverse so after many nanos they will start on road buildind not bad just different type management style IIT style not LUM type. ..Economy is strange case beyond my understanding. But starving everybody is not solution and more rich spend by nano or television poor get jobs. Also not poor should not be punished to drive bycycles and as they way barrel of crude price coming down nano can help to spur price. We need to look at oil producers also they need money to buy good services."

Madani Sahib,
LOL & HA HA HA. I never get tired of reading your wit and humor that you express so well in a continguous series of painful facts interspersed with totally unrelated insults directed against no one in particular. Keep it going, man.

#13 ahmedmadani {"Now I do not care that little dingi platform nano indians will drive on nonexisting road ways"}

Madani Sahib,
The roads may not exist yet, but your lavish application of tar over the torsos of your neighbors will definitely overcome that shortcoming. Now if only they could find a good use for feathers in road-building. LOL

#15 drlokraj {" Badal had tried to revive the project again but Tata had already made a pact with Gujarat govt."}

Dr. Sahib,
Just how many dead Muslas can a lil Nano carry to the morgue?

Re: # 20,19 Thanks for reminding still I am not mad. There is mean man called mr. Parthab ( #16) and mr. T they have "khunnas" about me. Now Mr. Parthaab has some problem as said earlier like original sin.... Woman. Then now new problem is mr. Tata and some body called mistry. He has some disorder and he feels every woman is ready to attack men folk and they are just after alimony and children grabbing etc and Mr. Tata is after his Wallet.

Now if you looked at my post i was in praise nof bengali people and women folk there. I said good about them. They are more cultured and have good features and said good word about language as it emphasizes "soft tones". I also said with age they still look nice like cows while north of Rahim yar Khan they appear healthy robust as buffollows. Also said bengli language is not profane language like punjabi where people think something is wrong unless you start with abuse specially friend you are seeing after few years. Now Punjabis are earthy people even to Hindustani's from India in Karachi.I also mentioned they have little more cerebral activity compared to Punjabi munda. Fish , water protein is reason.

If Parthaab does not want Tata why not ask him to come to Karachi and take over Pakistan Steel mill for start followed by Nano Plant in Hub Industrial estate,We are short of power ask him to develop power plant.( tata company provide electricty to indian railways and that huge network runs, almost 70% of tracks are electrified) .Give him 10,000 acres of land free and let us ask Mr. Zardari to inaugurate nano and let start rolling and give all punjabi Mundas a platform to roam best subcontinents highways. Sure this will be better than movie imports.May be ask him to put our rail system on electric locomotives.If we can lure him to Karachi will be far better than all money we are going to pocket by Pick pocketting Americans. It is better to learn building building nano , and running of power plant, steel plant and energising power traction lines for railways than leaning and perfecting pickpocketting which becomes first habit , then it becomes character and then destiny. ( I feel we are good in trading,like cement agents and distributors make two times money than producers. This is likepick pocketting . Whilt tata type exploiting is good he makes people to put labor and make goods and services. Pakistan need not traders but people who make). I think Bengali hate tata 200% as bangla desh rejected Tatas proposal to invest highest amount in its history. They get afraid he will stop their political circle discussions and make them work. Bengali intelluctual class feels working hard is unjust and below dignity. Most are not hard working but they are intelluctual too much analysis leading no action paralysis. It is consider in intelluctuals to drink tee coffee and smoking is most productive and they consider virtue as poverty .

Any way I will ask Parthaab to excuse me and forgive me.
It is better to just not trouble othewrs. Good day. Hope not to trouble anyboody much.

Thanks interacts . . .

Ahmedmadani:- please consider writing a bok, nowdays they give away Man Nooker prizes for funny reports on the darkness . . .

parthaab:- Why only the Tatas, why not the rest of them, and by that I mean those who were given the keys in 1947?

Dasg-dot:- Just this that the Indian Government knows exactly what happened to Netaji after he escaped from Taipei.

Shah2:- The Nano has atleast 6 engine options on date, and most of them work against the liquid petro fuel lobbies. So your hyptothesis does not hold good. What the Nano will do is to change the way people look at small cars. I think. Whether economies worldwide are ready for this, I don't know.

Salim Chauhan:- Thank you, various.

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Ahmedmadani sahib,

Well written as usual, sir, there is no one quite like you on chowk.

They get afraid he will stop their political circle discussions and make them work.

You are absolutely correct. The Bong hates working and that is why I guess they support Commies in India. Partha babu is wrong about Tatas taking away the farmers land (as he is on most things), it was the GoWB which took the land away and now that the Tatas are gone, the land is not going to return to the farmers still.

I support Nano as it breaks hold of elites on monopoly of having 4 wheelers

Correct again. And that it will clog the roads is no fault of the Nano. India must invest on roads, not scuttle the Nano.

Regards

PS: I dont think you are mad at all, it is the people who are launching personal attacks on you who need to see Dr. Sohail asap.

Re: # 24; majumdar

I'd second your thoughts sir ... madani sahib is one the most intelligent interactors here ... I don't always agree with his point of view but read his posts where I can, for some true insight

Cheema sahib,

AM sahib does not bother to hide his insights behind a cloak of PC.

Regards

Thanks Veeresh/Majumdar/Salim for writing article and commenting.. Greatness of Mr. Tata lies in catching and popularising idea middle to lower class Indian family can aspire to have freedom of movement. The idea was similar to pc. Hopefully hundreds of millions Indians can have freedom of movement. Only future will tell if his company was successful or others will be successful but history will note that this man seeded the idea of "people's car.
Computers changed not economics of India real change happened they understood and were happy they can be somebody in world market. Great psycological boost same way a family man can stand on earth and open door of car for new experience for family. He can have same joy as only few wealthy families have. It can be said mr.Ford Sr similary thought and gave mobility to American nation, Tata will do same. One can say very very wealthy world class rich man demolishing rich people's elite dreams of ownership of 4 wheel vehicle.
It is very clear technical advances when they reach mass production and access for masses to new technology have more significantly impact on social , political, economic,sexual( like introduction of family control ways) psycological( new drugs for depression )( social, political and economical effects are too obvious). The key is mass production of tech, producrts and rational prices for large number of people. These technologists are dreamer and they start some little things as Herbingers of coming future. For this such men and women should be respected.

I will ask Parthaa to forgive me what I wrote was imprudent and in anger. At my age there shuold be sublimation in actions and reactions as we are over hump and should listen more.

I will ask Parthaa to listen to music and be happy.
THis is typical Kirana presentation in maru bihag as their speciality is melody.
Second bandish is in Drut Trital , ( all women are not predatory) but caring also. Lady is waiting and awake... Jagoon May Sari Raina Balama,Man Lagena Mora Rasiya...

1.http://www.esnips.com/doc/f271772b-c144-42ad-91e0-b8da40a7ca25/Pr abha-Atre-Kal-na--Marubehag-Ektal.mp3

1.http://www.esnips.com/doc/373219bc-39 63-4d70-b360-959f130d106e/Prabha-Atre-jaagu-na--Marubehag-teental.mp3

Re: # 23

Veeresh, The history of the Tatas and their recent transformation, might well be forgotten in our country of WORSHIPPERS - of industrialists, feminists and the soopernatural ( not necessarily in that order ).

Pls explain your question "Why only the Tatas, why not the rest of them, and by that I mean those who were given the keys in 1947?"

As for those here, who suspect my True love for the Nano, I do proclaim that I do NOT hold anything against the small car. But its the blatantly arrogant method of it being made, that raises such a stink, considering India is now a democracy, unlike in the times of JNehru.

AM, I can understand those are just your own opinions. You are hence excused ;)

Majumder,Viresh.....
Bongs hate to work, so they are against Tata Nano project in Bengal!!!!
The first automobile factory in India was established at Hooghly district, some 40/50 KM away from proposed Tata Nano site. HM was doing roaring business for more than 50 years....

Population denstity of Indian cities are so high, it will tax nature extreamly, if we come up with such kind of vehicles like Tata Nano. For building infrastructure, we need some land. GoWB is not finding land to widen NH34....In current situation, is not possible to allocate land in South Bengal, specialy in East Midnapur-Hooghly-Howrah-East Burdwan belt...
GoWB offered Tata 3 alternate sites to Tatas. Tatas were very much adamant on Singur. CPI(M), desparate to bring tata, agreed on Singur, fully knowing that some farmers may not like the idea. A cultivable land, with history of more than 1000 years of agriculture, can not make away for a factory, people do not know, how many years it will survive....

http://profit.ndtv.com/2008/11/07192252/Tata-Motors-to-shut-Luckn ow-P.html

Veeresh, forget about the Nano, why should farmers have to sacrifice their little for cheap cars? I'd rather hear more about Netaji and the Gulag.

Nb di, Nkg moshai, Others,

The fault was not of Tatas but of GoWB for acquring land forcefully and without due compensation.

Nkg moshai, WB became an industrial wasteland long before Nano- in the 1960s due to the strike culture and militant unionism sponsored by the Commies. Now whose fault was that? Did the Bong themselves vote in the Coomies or did outsiders impose Commies on WB?

Regards

Majumder....
Please don't see everything evil from this CPI(M) Govt.During Congress Govt. work culture was equally bad....

NB...
Frankly speaking, most of the farmers in WB have very small land holding. For them,earning from land is at most 25000/PA. That is just enough to feed and school education for their children. Now a days, higher eductaion is quite expensive and you need some extra income (other than farm income) for that...
People of Singur were offerred almost twice the market price. Some people relied on Mamta to put pressure on GoWB, such that last couple of farmers get much bigger amount. Now Tatas left, Mamta have prey heavy price in Singur. Praying namaz on roads will not work.....
I am pretty sure, next time I visit my village, I will try to influence TC workers, to shift their loyalty....


Majumder/NB...
For natural reason, personaly, I feel, there should not be any large industry in naturally irrigated areas like Singur. I was surprised, why Tatas have not accepted the offer in Kharagpur or Burdwan....
I will say Ratan Tata should have been little more modest while dealing with Mamta Banerjee. Banking too much on CPI(M)....He should not have avoided referrening to Mamata, while unveiling the first NANO in New Delhi auto show...