Pleas For Sanity as Sabres Rattle Over Mumbai Mayhem

Kashmiris need to be taught the history of Kashmir... So they need to pass a history course before they can think of giving their opinion about themselves or Kashmir and UN should take up this Job... Once they know who the hell they are... how and when they got converted to Islam, what the hell Kashmir meant for last 2500 years, their opinion about themselves can be more humane and realistic... currently they feel that being in the valley of one of the highest mountains and receiving so much of attention from India had given them a very high status....

borivilli#: "i think the US will agree to limitd sanctions while advising india to settle kashmir"

....i dont see india ever agreeing to settling kashmir......settling kashmir basically means losing kashmir.......and all indian leaders know that kashmiris have no interest in staying with india......

as for putting sanctions on pakistan, the only country that can do that is the usa....and the usa is falling all over itself, increasing aid for pakistan.......pakistan, at the moment, is getting more aid and more potential aid than at any time i can recall, from usa......

......the usa has no one agreeing to assist it any longer in afghanistan, other than pakistan.......

...the circle of conflict for the past 60 years, in south asia, centers around kashmir......and i doubt india will want anything other than status quo.....

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There might be some people cheering for the Pakistani team but with so many Indian muslims in the cricket team I don't see them cheering anybody else.

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Hamid mian, if Pakistan finishes Saeed off I have no objections. He doesn't have to be handed off to India.

I have no interest in airing Pakistan's dirty laundry as long as Pakistan is serious about turing the Jehadi spigot off.

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borvili,

i can empathize with you, but if indian moslems want to be treated right they should start cheering for the indian cricket team instead of the paki team .....

i think the US will agree to limitd sanctions while advising india to settle kashmir

hamidm pakistan has made the life of indian muslims pretty ugly thanks to the history of the last 60 years, so if you have animus towards us, we are not overflowing with sympathy either, if it were not for the immense loss of life i wish sometimes there would be an all out war and over with.

the other way is to impose sanctions against pak but the us doesnt want a collapse in pak and in the long run that isnt good for india either. but if things go like this india will have to exert whatever pressure it can for sanctions, there isnt much of a constituency in india for a deal with kashiris.

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mahesh mian,

.... i agree with you on this one .... unfortunately the government of pakistan will never hand over anyone to india - they wouldn't last two weeks if they did - but they could have easily eliminated this guy in a staged police encounter .... he will come back to haunt us all ........

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anil mian,

... don't be fooled .... islam is not a very tolerant religion - ask the people of mecca ... why do you think grandpa gopinath converted? nobody in his right mind wants to be circumcised voluntarily .....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7778074.stm

Lahore police chief Pervez Rathor said that Mr Saeed and four other officials of the charity would be held at home for three months. He did not say whether the men would be charged.

WTF?! India can not settle for this. Pakistan can show it's serious by handing him over to India. Otherwise, these are just gimmicks.

Clifton:

As long as people like you, Scout can come up and express their views openely - despite vulgarity and hostility of Zeemaxs; and Hamidm are not thrown out of Islamic fold, would you not agree with me that the regligion is as tolerant as any other. Personal pursuits of leaders (look at Saudis) and their ability to manipulate masses is quite remarkable. It it the latter that concentrates disproportionates power wealth in fewer hands. Then again this too happens wherever humans step in. So what is the core issue, may be people like to talk and it has become talk of coffee tables as over the world. What do you think?

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clifton,

... i am already ashamed of being a paki - that is why i always try to pass myself off as an indian .... unfortunately most people don't buy it because i am too white and fat :)

... i too wish obl would go back to bedouin land and shoot up a camel caravan or something instead of riling up our tribals and blowing up my favourite restaurants in islamabad ...... personally i don't have much use for ayrabs and keep on telling mrs hamidm that i will take her for umrah once the province of hejaz has been liberated by un forces - i don't know how much longer i can put her ...... i do like dubai though - the moslems over there seem to be a lot less hyper .......

.... like i said, the problem with desi moslems is poverty and ignorance ..... they are a bunch of gullible fools who are easily led astray by people who speak with an arabic accent, let alone arabic ..... people like dr zakir naik, dr amir liaqat hussain and other charlatans who spew nonsense on television day and night ....... have you ever ssen shows like alim on line, aghaz, alif, ghamdi, etc, etc ..... it is enough to make you puke .... i watch them regularly because even though grandpa gopinath converted a long time ago, i still have the hindoo obsession with bowel movements and puking is a better alternative than enemas ....

borivilli:

Sorry I misunderstood your earlier post. As far as why partition occurred, I don't think either of us wants to go there again.

hamid
[...HP sain, tahmed, captain cluless, mad masadi, ahmedmadani, me ...]

Yep, quite a bunch of delusional pakis - ha ha...

Kashmir may be "common" delusion among all pakis, but when jihadis take over, you hamid gopinath will be the first one to be beheaded in public stadium full of cheering pakis...

hamidm sahib your pakistaniayat is showing nowadays. In a few weeks you will be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

Vaise say what you want about desi muslims ...for all the hysterical chest and head thumping at least women are not OFFICIALLY forbidden to drive or vote in our pathetic blackfaced slumdwelling part of the world.

Ayrab govts OTOH have ensured that many ayrab countries with all their whitenes fatness and riches are still a bunch of spitoons and i hope OBL gets to shoot up a few arab leaders before his next dialysis.

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eklavya,

..... the ayrab was right ........ desi muslims, including bangladeshis, pakis and indians are the most rabid ...... and of the three the indians, specially those from hyderabad, are real nutcases - they think pakis have betrayed the ummah by not being good muslims ..... they scorn our women for wearing short sleeves and mock our men for not praying like the bedouins and think that we are ingrates who deserve the wrath of al-lah ....... in short indian moslems are insufferable ..... i am glad they got left behind

... i think the basic reason desi moslems are rabid is because they are poor, ignorant and miserable - their faith is the only thing they have ...... they also suffer from an acute inferiority complex and want to be more ayrab then the ayrabs who are richer, fatter and whiter ....