Pleas For Sanity as Sabres Rattle Over Mumbai Mayhem

Who gives a shit about who converted and when. It's who's blowing up who now that matters and why.

But knowing the past history on Kashmir is very relevant to the present. The present is merely a continuation of the past in which Jihadi violence and intolerance has been the norm since its arrival to the present. Seriously read that book, it's interesting reading.

I'm a big meat eater myself including.....beef.

Re: # 1101; hamidm sahib

sorry I got abit alarmed about the "bibi" and the insinuation that I might be a hindoo!! (astaghfirullah!)

I am yours truly akram cheema (banned by the hierarchy!)

Re: # 1100

kisan mian,

... get over the fact that some hindus converted to islam centuries ago ........ i didn't like the fact that my grandpa gopinath converted, but now i am glad that he did because i like eating meat ......

Re: # 1099

matilda bibi,

..... we all know that that there are a lot of idiotic moslems who live in the past and talk about nonsense like the the crusades and whatnot ......... but that is no reason for horrible hindoos to behave the same way - remember, you guys are supposed to be better than that ....

.... personally, i don't give a flip about the arabs, palestinians and other members of this imaginary 'ummah' ..... the fact of the matter is that most arabs don't give a flip about pakis or madrasis or bengalis .....try going to dubai without a visa .... unfortunately, the pakis don't get it and keep on making a fool out of themselves by trying to be more arab than the damn arabs ......... it is a fatal condition .....

Re: # 1096

Get over what?

It's not me that is raiding Karachi with fidayeen units shooting up people in stations or blowing up trains, markets, buses etc over Kashmir or the creation of Pakistan etc.

I don't need to get over anything. I'm just trying to live my life when even close friends of mine have almost been killed over the issue.

You get over it.

Re: # 1096; hamidm sahib

I think some hindus firmly believe there is some unfinished business from centuries ago (Ayodhia etc are a manifestation of this in recent times) ... this menatility reminds me of the muslims making references to 'the crusades' at every crisis they face in the modern world

... do you see that analogy by any chance??

Re: # 1097

aha snark mian,

.... that was really nice of you

On the question of Indus Water

Simply put,

1. Choking off the water supply for a lower riparian state ( a state that lies downstream ) is FORBIDDEN under International Law and is deemed an act of war.

2. Moreover, in my opinion, it would be a crime against 150 million people, just as if China stopped the Brahmaputra.

3. The Indus Water Sharing agreement is not a contract or a lease that can be negotiated and renegotiated.

4. The treaty allows India use "run-of-the-river" projects, i.e., it is allowed to store a minimal amount of water for projects that do not interfere with the flow of the rivers. We cannot make any appreciable change in the amount of water released downstream to Pakistan.

5. As in any situation of imposed hardship, the brunt of any water shortage would be shouldered by the very poor. The rich elites will still be living in Defence and watering their lawns with Perrier.

Summary : We cannot (and should not, but that is another matter) twist Pakistan's arm using the Indus river water system.

Re: # 1095

kisan mian,

.... now you are beginning to sound like a serb! ..... some of them are still fighting the war with the 'turks' ..... get over it!

Creation of Pakistan was wrong. Adding more to it is also wrong. The population have been brutalised and indoctrinated by Jihadi Islam and that isn't the basis for free and fair referendum.

Why don't you hold a referendum in Baluchistan?

Even you Hamid don't even know the real history of Kashmir. Read this book in its entirety and see how Kashmir became Islamic and the pogroms and violence that begot that transition:

http://history.world-citizenship.org/baharistan-i-shahi

Re: # 1092

bubba mian,

......... all i can say is that you are better off with a paki cab driver in new york than a chinaman who doesn't speak any english, cannot read a map, doesn't know east from north and takes three hours to get from jfk to la guardia ...... paki cab drivers are the backbone of the public transport system in america and are a national asset ..... code coolies are a dime a dozen, it is hard to find a cab driver who knows what he is doing ........

..... i do agree with you on punjabi paindooism and have often called for a ban on the punjabi language and paye - there is nothing more disgusting than fingers glued together with gelatin and animal fat ...... unfortunately, if we banned punjabi and paye india might use it as an excuse to 'liberate' punjab .........

....... i agree that we pakis have been rather erratic in our behavior and things have gone from bad to worse, specially in the last couple of years with this taliban phenomenon .... where the heck did they come from! ..... unfortunately, nobody - including america - knows how to handle them ..... i have advocated killing them all, but i don't know if it is possible to kill a million people without getting some ngo really upset ....... there is some merit to the argument that if we leave them alone, they will leave us alone, but i am not sure - these guys now seem to have a bigger agenda ..... in the sixties and seventies the tribal areas were the safest places in pakistan ...... my father, who was the subarea commander, used to drive in the wee hours of the morning from places lkie d.i. khan and wana to peshawar after a night long game of bridge and never thought anything about it ..... now these same people are launching rockets at kohat! ...... what the ... !

....... any way, i am still looking forward to having dinner at the dynasty in the mariott islamabad; that is, if the indians don't blow it up again ..........

Re: # 1089

pepe,

.... doesn't it scare the hell out of you to see that all pakis reagrdless of their school of thought (and those without a thought) agree on kashmir? ...... hp sain, tahmed, captain cluless, mad masadi, ahmedmadani, me - there could not be a more disparate group of folks and we seldom agree on anything ....... yet on kashmir, there seems to be no disagreement ....... so why don't you guys be reasonable and settle the issue by agreeing to a referendum - what are you guys afraid of ? .... let the people decide with their vote ....... learn from history: pakistan could have avoided a lot of bloodshed if we had done the same in bangladesh .........

Re: # 1058 Posted by hamidm2 on December 10, 2008 7:31:51 pm

hamid mian,

How dare you put me in a lot with the horrible hindus, when you wrote [... don't worry, you guys can keep hyderabad and delhi .... all we want is kashmir - ] What did you mean "you guys?"

Is there some sort of an insignia that those of us who care about pakis and there well being should be getting? Or was that just a slip in your otherwise healthy rational mind?

{ i doubt india would ever agree to that ..} You are right about that. And why should they? For the rest of the world, these days India, although she has her unwashed railroad squatting masses, comes across as a civilized democracy and a well behaved society trying desperately to be involved in upwardly mobile worldly affairs.

And what has pakis done in the past 60 years, except for their punjabi paindooism? Within our own society, in every decade pakis have moved from one human degradation after another. (And our so-called leaders have made money doing just that) So much so that our own commie Tariq Ali was asking for a UN intervention in internal paki affairs. Would you call that dignified.

Who are we fooling? pakis have been killing their own muslim brothers for all these 60 years, and those unwashed masses continue to show their gangsterism in stores and cabs all across the west, no to some westerners but to their own pakis. westerners or even the arabs would not give a hoot about paki restaurant. as far as the cabs are concerned they are just stuck to use these guys because of the nature of this business and its infrastructure.

Lately, I am opining to have these paki psychos throughly evaluated when they are given visas to the west.

What say you?

snark mian,

......... paki television is saying the same thing that the press is saying - they are a litle bit more colorful and shrill ! ........ they are telling the paki government to stand up to india and tell them to go whence light does not shine .... there are a few crazy idiots like gen hamid gul who imply that it is cia-mossad-raw conspiracy to build a case against pakistan, but by and large, most commentators agree that even though the paki government was not involved there might be a paki connection (i think so too).......... there is still a lot of emphasis on proof: why hasn't the captured guy been presented, blah blah, blah ........

........ generally speaking, television has settled down after a couple of days of berating the government for being spineless ..... now that the government seems to have found a spine, most of the ex-foreign service folks and journalist who show up are fairly objective (as objective as any paki can be when it comes to india) ...... paki talk show hosts are vicious and don't spare anyone, specially the government officials who dare to show up ...... actually, it is quite entertaining ....... you can check it out yourself on geo.tv .......

Re: # 1037 Hamidm2

Musharraf is from Delhi - he is our 'man'. You are our 'people'! See, how weird that is?

Re: # 1040 Hamidm2

Do you know that you are abetting and inciting terrorism with your post? FBI, are you reading?