Ayodha , Dec 06

"It's not Ayodha, it's Ayodhya."

Ayodha, ayodhya, avudha - what difference does it make? I doubt the guy has ever been to India.

Dear Majumdar itbecame an issue in the mid 80s because the congress was playing soft communalism since its garibi hatao and socialist mantra had failed, Arun Nehru told Rajiv that he should do shilanyas to make up for Shah Bano, this was in keeping with his mother's bankrupt policies. she had a petty mind and couldnt think above her interests for the nation. The BJP felt that VP Singh and Laloo, Mulayam etc were going to surge with mandal, cong had its own base so they latched onto this issue and ran with it.

another example is that because BJPs core constituency of upper caste hindus was opposed to mandal iitially BJP opposed it but realising this would take away the more numerous lower caste votes and that mandal was popular among them it reversed its decision and stopped opposing it and grudingly supporting it.

It's not Ayodha, it's Ayodhya.

Bori, I sympathize with a great deal of what you are saying, but I also feel this sob shantanu datta is not friend of yours. You can take that at face value or reject it.

It was built on a mandir. The TOI and some other papers in their infinite wisdom took the discussion to "is there any proof of Ram"? To me, the being built on the mandir wasn't the point, the fact that it's over and done with is.
Enough evidence was found of it having been a mandir, but a Pakistani-pretending-to-be-Indian will not remember that.

Harishbhai,

This idiot

Who are you referring to? The author or Bori mian.

Bori mian,

Lal masjid;s leaders were fighting the govt, they are responsible for their own fate.

Your comments have been noted and will be duly forwarded to Mr. Baituallah Mehsud.

Regards

John_Galt, welcome back, if you're here I'll start a welcome thread on Unplugged.

Advani wanted to be PM and rightly believed that he was responsible for BJPs rise, along with sundry sadhus and sadhvis who went around the country side make incediary speeches and showing poisonous videos. Thats why he was severly dissapointed when Vajpayee became PM, since the nonBJP parties of the coalition wouldnot agree to him being made PM.

Sabh Kursi ka khel hai, awam aur mulk ki kis ko parwah

Rangeela, Bori, beej and others

Look, there are SO Many issues facing the Muslim communities everywhere today. Bori mentioned many of them. Real challenges. Babri Masjid was no doubt an issue - an important one, we understand that, and it needs to be kept in mind. It created a great deal of friction, and that too is important to keep in mind. But if we keep going back, we will NOT solve it. We will not have any more agreement than people aleady did. We will simply keep ourselves tied to a point in history without ever looking beyond that.

Tragedy is, Muslims are being taken for a bloody ride by wholesale fake symapthizers - people who have no respect for Muslims other than to suck their blood by harking on Babri Masjid for eternity. They are NO friends of Muslims. Shantanu Datta who claims that Muslims were inspired by Babri Masjid to demolish buddha stautue is certainly no friend of Muslims.

These are dishonest exploiters who can only hurt Muslims. Let's not make a ritual of everything and keep Muslims crying and weeping and wailing all the time. Frankly, if one really hated Muslims that is what one would want. keep those sods wailing and poor and hated by and separate from all.

Were I a Muslim, at some point in time, I would tell these poeple to go jump into a river.

is it just me or does anyone else remember babri masjid demolition preceded a not so gentle ethnic cleansing of pandits in a place called kashmir? not that two wrongs make a right but how can we talk about one without the other?

Bori mian,

The BJP needded an issue to counter Janata Dals Mandal card and congress's shilanayas and so whipped things up.

The controversy has been going on and off since mid 1800s and resurfaced in a big way in the mid 1980s when JD and Mandal were non issues.

Regards

This is a lie that it was built on a mandir, the archaeological survey of india which is staffed mostly by nonmuslims dug several meters under the ground and found no evidence of a hindu temple, or pillars or foundation. The BJP needded an issue to counter Janata Dals Mandal card and congress's shilanayas and so whipped things up.

BJ2 I am a humanist , dont presume things about others without knowing them, dont judge a book by its cover and call names.

The masjid-built-on-a-mandir should have been left alone because it was history and cannot be changed. It should have been a reminder to all Indians that we can only be conquered when there are divisions among us.
Now this is history too. Let it go. Stop picking at the scab, else you are doing exactly the same thing as those who caused it to fall down.

This idiot has been furiously contributing article after article for the past few days but not one has garnered more than a dozen interacts. This is perhaps his way of seeking attention.

Re: # 17

Bori miaN, I did not call you a communalist. I said that you do not cry for anybody -- unless your own ass gets whipped, in which case you cry like a little baby and you cry like there was no tomorrow. Hope the clarification helps!!