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Ayodha , Dec 06

Shantanu Dutta December 7, 2008

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#17 Posted by borivili_express on December 9, 2008 8:24:45 pm
BJ2 dont u dare call me a comunalist, I am a true patriot unlike you, kalchakra, GT, Majumdar and Advani .
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#16 Posted by BJ2 on December 9, 2008 8:20:03 pm
Bori miaN cries for nobody except when his own ass gets whipped!

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Eklavya, breaking down the masjid was one of the most asinine acts of the Advani (a fact not lost upon that dim nitwit brain of his -- hence the resignation that followed). It created a significant intercommunity rift, it failed to get him anything as far as the mandir was concerned, it created riot situations all over the country.

All of the above...for what?! What a nutcase!!

But the most serious damage it created was by making the Indian Muslims feel insecure. It created the seed which provided the pretext for the Mumbai riots, the Godhra tragedy, and the post-Godhra days of infamy.

The structure itself was perhaps no big deal. But the agenda behind pushing the demolition was at minimum mischievous and bordering on evil.

I too pray and hope that our Mussalman bhais would put this tragedy behind them and keep proceeding and making progress and make their country proud of its Muslim citizens -- far more so than the Pakistanis can ever be proud of its own Muslims!

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#15 Posted by rangeela on December 9, 2008 8:18:15 pm
Babri masjid had been lying in waste for over 50 years, like hundreds of mosques in Punjab and Gujarat. The politicians both hindu and muslim made it into something more than a place of worship. Ayodhya hardly has any muslims left, whereas, nearby Faizabad has many mosques sans namazis. It's time to forget the past mistakes and move on.
Masjid to bana di shab bhar mein iman ki hararat walon ne
munn apna purana paapi hai barson mein namazi bunn na saka
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#14 Posted by borivili_express on December 9, 2008 8:16:06 pm
Lal masjid;s leaders were fighting the govt, they are responsible for their own fate. I do feel sorry for the children and youngster who were brainwashed by these leaders. I suispect some such leaders also brainwashed the mumbai terrorists. I am soory for their victims, but also for this Kasab, he seems like any desi boy, asking for Bachchan movies and nonveg, wanting to meet his mother, I wonder what kind of brainwashing videos he was shown to make him so full of hate. but its no different from the brainwashing done in sangh parivar schools and labs. I have seen the whole state of gujarat mouth obscenities and fantastic tales about muslims. the bjp has changed history textbooks in states they rule to tell fantastic tales of muslim hordes and plunder and forced conversions, even when the visible presence of 85% non muslims in the country belies their claims.
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#13 Posted by majumdar on December 9, 2008 8:05:55 pm
Bori mian,

Do you also shed tears for the shahadat of Lal Masjid? Or was that kosher 'cos that was shahided by fellow Muslims?

Regards
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#12 Posted by Eklavya on December 9, 2008 8:02:18 pm
Beej bhaiyya

What's this with you liberal Hindus? Are Muslims the only ones who have pain and anguish? Or are they your daammaad or mine? And are we going to celebrate their every "pain and anguish" till the end of time?

Do you want us all to begin to fully play a game of competitve pain and anguish?

Enough already.
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#11 Posted by borivili_express on December 9, 2008 7:59:46 pm

Babri Masjid Shaheed Terey kuche pe baRe ruswaa hua hum,

Par Islam zinda hota hai har karbala ke baad


shahadat hai matloob e maqsood e momin
na maal e ghanimat
na kishwar ka shahi

martyrdom is the throbbing desire of the true faithful
neither the bounty of battle
nor the glory of power
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#10 Posted by BJ2 on December 9, 2008 7:49:01 pm
Eklavya, the pain and anguish to many Indian Mussalmaans on that terrible day was very real. It should not be trivialized.
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#9 Posted by Eklavya on December 9, 2008 7:39:01 pm
Yeah, so what's the problem with that, shattered sun? Must everyone care for all this sh%yt?

Enough of black day! You guys can keep crying over it until the day you want. Don't expect the rest of us to care.

You have turned it into a professional joke.
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#8 Posted by BJ2 on December 9, 2008 7:29:09 pm
December 6 was indeed a black day. However, the bhaichara among Indians is stronger. It has held!
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#7 Posted by Shattered_Sun on December 9, 2008 6:24:32 pm
Having spoke with an extreme right wing Hindu at some Indian dinner, it was interesting to get his/their perspective on this issue. In his mind, the history of Islam in India was an abomination, a curse that befell India creating untold levels of death, genocide, communalism, subjugation, blah, blah. I think these guys would not mind at all of Indian islamic history was eviscerated. I would admit the narrative is quite seductive to those inclined to believe it. Yesterday it was the Babri Mosque. Tommorrow, Fatehpur Sikri, Agra Fort, Red Fort, Aurgazeb's Tomb??

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses."-- Johannes Kepler
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#6 Posted by pinku on December 9, 2008 12:14:55 pm

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"When the white man came, we had the land and they had the Bible; now we have the Bible and they have the land".
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Good one:-)

But shantanu dutta will not be able to tell you why the Christians fried Mayans like chickens???

Actually, Muslims and Christians can only ask questions and then run, as a religion the two have been so proud of their idiotic efforts for saving their religion that even Satan will feel humble and human.

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#5 Posted by jang on December 9, 2008 12:12:22 pm
great article shanty, you should send it to The Hindu as an op-ed. generally i agree ..some small issues like 906 as date for taj mahal hotel..are you refering to hijri calendar? also imo its humpty dumpty.
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#4 Posted by harimau on December 9, 2008 11:09:05 am
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#3 Posted by dawa-i-dil on December 9, 2008 10:17:35 am
Great ArticleShantanu Dutta

More voices like you India certainly will bring good change

Its really a fresh breeze of air when we Pakistanis hear such sensible voices fromIndia

May Allah bring peace in this region

Regards
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#2 Posted by Eklavya on December 9, 2008 9:19:20 am
ok, I take that back shantanu mian. May be you have some thing to back up your claim:

"On the 6th of December in Ayodha, a bunch of Hindus destroyed a Muslim monument. In March 2001, a bunch of Muslims having learnt their lesson well it would seem from Ayodha, blew up the Bamian Buddhas"

Please share what you know because it would be interesting.
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